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^…^ said:

Forgot to copy here some ones from the * database * … now everything should be ok.

noooo…sorry.it´s late at this time.Your eyes can deceive you.try again,later.

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^…^ said:

Now I think I have almost all deleted scenes, shots, pieces, needed to start the project; need a new computer, though, because I can’t wait months just for rendering time!

UPDATE

  • Episode 6 - different take of R2 and 3PO entering Jabba’s palace

Test clip - taken from a BD documentary - * 30s, 37.9s (download link valid until 2017-02-02)
https://fs10n4.sendspace.com/dl/538f88a69d03e3605777640c35f63dd3/58448bc41a4806dc/xkiz11/test3.ts
(left the russian audio, just to be the clip werdiert than usual!)

Yeah that I think works. And Un-trimming of sequences would essentially be I think the way to go with the odd deleted scene put in there from time to time. Not against having fun but I think the Menu material generally has a totally different feel to the original camera work unless you do complicated uses of it or partial uses of it.

RE: R2-D2 lifting up yeah the writing is no good but if you wanted to extend the shot you would have to somehow merge the 2 shots without the writing. Perhaps it is useless personally I never tried it before but I knew there was extra footage there.

You need to check the Van Ling (cantina music) Credits bloopers also and the blooper reel too for extra material.

You have not listed all the material from the ESB trailers yet. You have missed a bunch of shots off your list from that still.

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Ronster said:
Yeah that I think works.

Thanks!

Not against having fun but I think the Menu material generally has a totally different feel to the original camera work unless you do complicated uses of it or partial uses of it.

Right, complicated! Talking of this…

RE: R2-D2 lifting up yeah the writing is no good but if you wanted to extend the shot you would have to somehow merge the 2 shots without the writing. Perhaps it is useless personally I never tried it before but I knew there was extra footage there.

The only thing which is in the menu and not in the movie, is the 3D camera pan, from outside Yoda’s house flying around it to R2; I made this as better as I can, including a zoom out of R2 shot; don’t know if it’s convincing enough to be used instead the original take - that is a simple cut Yoda’s house/R2; rough upscale and color correction, no cleaning, just put together to see if it works:

https://fs06n4.sendspace.com/dl/206f4779eee36ea871d03d1fe6fcc5fb/58457b6e746ce3f4/uhiqdi/menu-test3.ts

You need to check the Van Ling (cantina music) Credits bloopers also and the blooper reel too for extra material.

It those on EP5 DVD?

You have not listed all the material from the ESB trailers yet. You have missed a bunch of shots off your list from that still.

I know the list is incomplete, but it’s a work in progress, and I do what I can; got many trailers, but it’s difficult for a non-die-hard fan to spot a missing second or two, not present in the movie or, worst, with a simple different take; add to this the fact often the trailers has not a name, so it’s also difficult to find the right trailer to track.

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Ah actually that works really well. There is a major reason because R2-D2 get’s stuck on something and then he suddenly jumps to the window.

What I would suggest here is Slowing it down slightly and loop the rain sound effect.

What is happening with Vaders voice!!! Sounds good although what’s the plan give him subtitles or something?

Anyway a bit slower and if you can Spot match the color it would be 100% sold.

Bloopers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82I_yeF7b6g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgLl0_mqLtc

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I think the colors match but the gain and the contrast are off as there is a sudden jump in detail. Particularly at the low end So the Values are off between the 2. That should be pretty easy though.

Although I think it might be a bit too slow now you should perhaps go to 90% Speed but also slow the original clip down to 90% also so the speed of the rain does not change.

But I am really impressed that you pulled that off. I think it’s great work. Hat’s off. I actually need to do something similar myself at some point did you use an image sequence for this?

Anyway this is what I think. In fact if you did it like this it would be a cut overall. But it would still be an improvement. Sometimes less is more.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/e3h46edparcxx32/menu-test4__(Edit).mp4

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What I have actually done:

  • took the DVD menu and cut it, from the start of 3D pan to the first frames of R2 peeking in the window
  • upscaled and crop to fill the 1920x820 window and to mantain aspect ratio
  • slow down 2x times the 3D pan
  • upscaled (zoomed out) the HD film part of R2 to let the DVD menu overlaid spatially perfect
  • color matched the HD film similar to the DVD menu
  • overlaid the four R2 frames of the DVD menu to the film, first 100% (only DVD menu), second 75%, third 50%, fourth 25% and the rest is HD movie
  • zoomed in the previous upscaled HD film to return to its original size

Of course, instead slow motion the 3D part at 100%, it could be made at 90%, but it will be choppier, I think.

On DVD menu, I just applied the upscale - no noise reduction or grain plate; it will look better with them applied. To merge better, I could always make the cut just during the thunder, so it has an “excuse” for temporary contrast/brightness difference.

Your cut has simply removed Yoda’s house shot; it can be made using just the film - apart the R2 zoom, made by me… I was forced to use it to merge the 3D pan to final R2 shot; I wonder if zoom in works good in this contest, if could work better in the film cut (leaving out the 3D pan), or use the 3D pan without R2 zoom…

Maybe someone else could chime in and give us their opinions!

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SCENES THAT WILL NOT BE USED

Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi

  • *We Got The Power Rinzler ebook (01:44) ****
    Same as TC, but cheesy song… worst than the original - difficult to believe, uh?

make a splitscreen between the special edition,the gout and this one after the death star explosion.
there are some scenes that not in the other one.

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benduwan said:

  • *We Got The Power Rinzler ebook (01:44) ****
    Same as TC, but cheesy song… worst than the original - difficult to believe, uh?

make a splitscreen between the special edition,the gout and this one after the death star explosion.
there are some scenes that not in the other one.

I’ll do!

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benduwan said:

  • *We Got The Power Rinzler ebook (01:44) ****
    Same as TC, but cheesy song… worst than the original - difficult to believe, uh?

make a splitscreen between the special edition,the gout and this one after the death star explosion.
there are some scenes that not in the other one.

I’ll do!

i´ve done it.
here the test clip:

https://mega.nz/#!nlBggKLY!M3AmdsjTZN22rfYPP2xtlIacusJMM8Mhjh9lTXwHmR0

upper left end song,upper right gout,down left se,down right trailer clip.

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Hal9000’s Prequel Fanedit Care Package might be a useful resource for this project, as it includes all the Prequel DVD deleted scenes in 1080p upscaled quality.

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Octorox said:

Hal9000’s Prequel Fanedit Care Package might be a useful resource for this project, as it includes all the Prequel DVD deleted scenes in 1080p upscaled quality.

Thanks for the input; may you provide one or more screenshots from EP1 deleted scenes (except extended podrace), please?

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benduwan said:

why do you cut some seconds?
it´s not necessary,i think…

Because the slow motion is 2x; if I will use a, let’s say, 2.2x, it will stutter a bit… so, I prefer to cut few seconds of a ship arrival, which are not important for the story.

Apart this, what do you think of the clip?

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benduwan said:

why do you cut some seconds?
it´s not necessary,i think…

Because the slow motion is 2x; if I will use a, let’s say, 2.2x, it will stutter a bit… so, I prefer to cut few seconds of a ship arrival, which are not important for the story.

Apart this, what do you think of the clip?

what is the difference in this clip?

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Ehr… the landing shot is open matte… and not exactly the same one of the movie

yes,i see this.but why it will be changed?
is it from a menu?

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How have I never seen this post until now, I love this !!! question though, for scenes with alternate takes will you just be adding bits from the different takes into the finished scene or will it be a totally new scene created from both sources

“I’m a cybernetic organism, living tissue over a metal endoskeleton”

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benduwan said:

Ehr… the landing shot is open matte… and not exactly the same one of the movie

yes,i see this.but why it will be changed?
is it from a menu?

Yes, it’s from a menu, and, because it has more image details (like antenna dish) I think it’s a nice addition.

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How have I never seen this post until now, I love this !!! question though, for scenes with alternate takes will you just be adding bits from the different takes into the finished scene or will it be a totally new scene created from both sources

If the whole scene is available, then it will be replaced; if just one shot (or part of) a scene has a different take/angle, it will be used just that - like in some of the test clips I posted in this thread.

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hello andrea
what was the goal for a release? christmas?
i think you should release it next year.
maybe you´ll find more scenes,more testings,more corrections and more and more…
i like a good one,not volume after volume,because there more changes.
take all the time you need and make it exciting.

is sombody work on a cleanup the deleted scenes?
colorisation the b&w scenes?
spfx and audio?

and is here a german speaker there will do a release of this with german language,crawl und subtitles for deleted scenes?

thanks all where involved in this projekt.

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At the beginning, I thought to release at least EP1 for Xmas, but I’m not so sure I can do it in time… day after day I discover new shots, I have new ideas… at the end, I’m completely devoted to this project that will take a lot of time and energies!

Now I’m investigating which color grading to use. It’s the most important task, because deleted scenes should be color corrected to follow a given grading, so it’s the first thing to decide, before everything else; then, as I’m going to use the 2011 as main version, which parts should be replaced with 2004, 1997 or GOUT version; for example, I’m NOT going to use the young Anakin ghost, or R2 beyond the rocks…

Scenes cleanup: I’ll do that by myself for the most parts, I think I could do it.

Colorization of b&w scenes: this is A LOT tougher than what I thought at the beginning; MWilson did some test clips, but result are not so satisfactory; there are three choices here:

  • colorize shot by shot (or, better, one frame every 5, 10 or even 15) by hand, but I’m not able to do that - this is the best choice, because a good image editor would be able to recreate colors really close to the original ones
  • colorize shot by shot automatically; results are not that good, still * may * be (sometimes) better than the b&w version
  • leave them in b&w - the easieast way, but I’d prefer to NOT do it
  • find a color version (even in the lowest resolution/bitrate) to use as color reference - a really remote chance, but who knows, we have the Editdroid laserdisc, after all!

Audio editor: here the project is still waiting to find someone, skilled enough, to help with deleted scenes…

Another thing to do, is to find the best parts of the Editdroid laserdisc to use for the project - so, a devoted person who will write down every timecode for start and end of each needed shot.

German version: sorry, but I will NOT do any foreign crawl; for audio, I want to use just English; for subs, I’m still thinking how to properly handle the English subs, for both main movie (that will be literally divided in small chuncks) and deleted scenes; once found the way, further languages could be added - the best choice here will be to add the main european languages, French, German, Italian, Spanish.

Time to buy a new computer just for this project, because the old one is becoming too slow for this… and HDD space is almost over!

So, even if there are no updates in the last days, I’m not sleeping (well, not so much!), and a lot of testing and mind numbing are going on…

Last thing: would you like to get an episode release when it’s ready, and wait for the next one, or keep waiting until everything is ready? This is because lately I’ve seen a lot of movie sagas, and, if I think I should wait months between one part and the following, I’d prefer to wait some time more, and watch every part at the same time!

Of course, any idea, suggestion, critic is welcome!

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