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My point is…how would that small, unrelated thing shut down all criticism?

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ray_afraid said:

Chris358cp said:

I only carried over a few basic ideas from the Defeminized edit

Where I quit reading.
I should’ve stopped at the thread title.

You didn’t even need to read the last word of the thread title.

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TV’s Frink said:

My point is…how would that small, unrelated thing shut down all criticism?

I thought the criticism was Disney has some kind of social agenda to not have any competent white male characters. At least, that’s the reason this edit exists.

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Handman said:

TV’s Frink said:

Handman said:

I think the only edit you need to make to shut down any of these criticisms is to make General Hux a little less of a comic buffoon and more of an actual threat.

What.

I can’t say anything about the Last Jedi without you or Dom getting at me.

Not true! You’re wrong!

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Handman said:

TV’s Frink said:

My point is…how would that small, unrelated thing shut down all criticism?

I thought the criticism was Disney has some kind of social agenda to not have any competent white male characters. At least, that’s the reason this edit exists.

I think the question is why would changing Hux fix that. He’s not the only white male in the film and he’s also not that incompetent (just the butt of a couple jokes).

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DominicCobb said:

Handman said:

TV’s Frink said:

My point is…how would that small, unrelated thing shut down all criticism?

I thought the criticism was Disney has some kind of social agenda to not have any competent white male characters. At least, that’s the reason this edit exists.

I think the question is why would changing Hux fix that. He’s not the only white male in the film and he’s also not that incompetent (just the butt of a couple jokes).

It’s very hard to take him seriously, especially with that opening joke and with Snoke dragging him across the floor in front of his subordinates. No one seems to respect him and he doesn’t really do anything of worth, so just cutting a bit of that would make him that much stronger of a character, and perhaps even make the threat of him operating a coup against Kylo real.

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Handman said:

DominicCobb said:

Handman said:

TV’s Frink said:

My point is…how would that small, unrelated thing shut down all criticism?

I thought the criticism was Disney has some kind of social agenda to not have any competent white male characters. At least, that’s the reason this edit exists.

I think the question is why would changing Hux fix that. He’s not the only white male in the film and he’s also not that incompetent (just the butt of a couple jokes).

It’s very hard to take him seriously, especially with that opening joke and with Snoke dragging him across the floor in front of his subordinates. No one seems to respect him and he doesn’t really do anything of worth, so just cutting a bit of that would make him that much stronger of a character, and perhaps even make the threat of him operating a coup against Kylo real.

Do you know what thread you are in.

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Handman said:

DominicCobb said:

Handman said:

TV’s Frink said:

My point is…how would that small, unrelated thing shut down all criticism?

I thought the criticism was Disney has some kind of social agenda to not have any competent white male characters. At least, that’s the reason this edit exists.

I think the question is why would changing Hux fix that. He’s not the only white male in the film and he’s also not that incompetent (just the butt of a couple jokes).

It’s very hard to take him seriously, especially with that opening joke and with Snoke dragging him across the floor in front of his subordinates. No one seems to respect him and he doesn’t really do anything of worth, so just cutting a bit of that would make him that much stronger of a character, and perhaps even make the threat of him operating a coup against Kylo real.

Doesn’t do anything of worth except track the Resistance through hyperspace and then run them down and ultimately destroy half of their escaping transports?

Anyway, my point was that it’s still not clear what any of that has to do with “gender equalizing.”

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TV’s Frink said:

Handman said:

DominicCobb said:

Handman said:

TV’s Frink said:

My point is…how would that small, unrelated thing shut down all criticism?

I thought the criticism was Disney has some kind of social agenda to not have any competent white male characters. At least, that’s the reason this edit exists.

I think the question is why would changing Hux fix that. He’s not the only white male in the film and he’s also not that incompetent (just the butt of a couple jokes).

It’s very hard to take him seriously, especially with that opening joke and with Snoke dragging him across the floor in front of his subordinates. No one seems to respect him and he doesn’t really do anything of worth, so just cutting a bit of that would make him that much stronger of a character, and perhaps even make the threat of him operating a coup against Kylo real.

Do you know what thread you are in.

I was just answering Dom’s question. I’m not that good with jokes.

Doesn’t do anything of worth except track the Resistance through hyperspace and then run them down and ultimately destroy half of their escaping transports?

It’s not clear that Hux did anything to influence those events. If the tracking tech was there anyway, anyone could have done it. The Resistance would have escaped had it not been for DJ anyway. I’m not convinced Hux played an important role there besides being a figurehead. With a re-edit, Hux would know this and crave more power, the tension is there in a few scenes but I don’t think they went as far as they could have. The point is, sure, Hux did things, but Hux as a character isn’t all that much.

Anyway, my point was that it’s still not clear what any of that has to do with “gender equalizing.”

Not so much that, but what I was saying before, the spark that created these edits was the perception that the guys aren’t very capable. They go about trying to fix this perception in a sexist way by making the females weak when all I’m saying is you cut a bit of Hux being a doofus and there you go.

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Handman said:

TV’s Frink said:

Handman said:

DominicCobb said:

Handman said:

TV’s Frink said:

My point is…how would that small, unrelated thing shut down all criticism?

I thought the criticism was Disney has some kind of social agenda to not have any competent white male characters. At least, that’s the reason this edit exists.

I think the question is why would changing Hux fix that. He’s not the only white male in the film and he’s also not that incompetent (just the butt of a couple jokes).

It’s very hard to take him seriously, especially with that opening joke and with Snoke dragging him across the floor in front of his subordinates. No one seems to respect him and he doesn’t really do anything of worth, so just cutting a bit of that would make him that much stronger of a character, and perhaps even make the threat of him operating a coup against Kylo real.

Do you know what thread you are in.

I was just answering Dom’s question. I’m not that good with jokes.

This thread is a joke and I’m not sure why there’s any serious discussion in it.

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TV’s Frink said:

Handman said:

TV’s Frink said:

Handman said:

DominicCobb said:

Handman said:

TV’s Frink said:

My point is…how would that small, unrelated thing shut down all criticism?

I thought the criticism was Disney has some kind of social agenda to not have any competent white male characters. At least, that’s the reason this edit exists.

I think the question is why would changing Hux fix that. He’s not the only white male in the film and he’s also not that incompetent (just the butt of a couple jokes).

It’s very hard to take him seriously, especially with that opening joke and with Snoke dragging him across the floor in front of his subordinates. No one seems to respect him and he doesn’t really do anything of worth, so just cutting a bit of that would make him that much stronger of a character, and perhaps even make the threat of him operating a coup against Kylo real.

Do you know what thread you are in.

I was just answering Dom’s question. I’m not that good with jokes.

This thread is a joke and I’m not sure why there’s any serious discussion in it.

I don’t know. >_>

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Handman said:

Doesn’t do anything of worth except track the Resistance through hyperspace and then run them down and ultimately destroy half of their escaping transports?

It’s not clear that Hux did anything to influence those events. If the tracking tech was there anyway, anyone could have done it. The Resistance would have escaped had it not been for DJ anyway. I’m not convinced Hux played an important role there besides being a figurehead. With a re-edit, Hux would know this and crave more power, the tension is there in a few scenes but I don’t think they went as far as they could have. The point is, sure, Hux did things, but Hux as a character isn’t all that much.

Seems weird to me to say he’s incompetent when he basically only makes two mistakes throughout the film (underestimating Poe/missing his trolling and not realizing soon enough that Holdo was going to ram into the Supremacy) and otherwise leads a largely successful campaign against the Resistance (in fact, were it not for Kylo, he might’ve managed to wipe them out, perhaps he made a third mistake in not trying to kill him soon enough).

Anyway, my point was that it’s still not clear what any of that has to do with “gender equalizing.”

Not so much that, but what I was saying before, the spark that created these edits was the perception that the guys aren’t very capable. They go about trying to fix this perception in a sexist way by making the females weak when all I’m saying is you cut a bit of Hux being a doofus and there you go.

Being the butt of jokes doesn’t make someone incapable. Maybe if every guy in the movie was the butt of jokes I’d get it, but I still don’t understand why changing a single character would change anything about that perception.

TV’s Frink said:

Handman said:

TV’s Frink said:

Handman said:

DominicCobb said:

Handman said:

TV’s Frink said:

My point is…how would that small, unrelated thing shut down all criticism?

I thought the criticism was Disney has some kind of social agenda to not have any competent white male characters. At least, that’s the reason this edit exists.

I think the question is why would changing Hux fix that. He’s not the only white male in the film and he’s also not that incompetent (just the butt of a couple jokes).

It’s very hard to take him seriously, especially with that opening joke and with Snoke dragging him across the floor in front of his subordinates. No one seems to respect him and he doesn’t really do anything of worth, so just cutting a bit of that would make him that much stronger of a character, and perhaps even make the threat of him operating a coup against Kylo real.

Do you know what thread you are in.

I was just answering Dom’s question. I’m not that good with jokes.

This thread is a joke and I’m not sure why there’s any serious discussion in it.

On second thought, this is a good point.

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He’s not totally incompetent, but he is sort of seen as a doofus. The point is it would lessen the blow, so to speak.

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I had a cheeseburger for lunch today. No pizza slices, though that dream will come to fruition one day.

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Version 0.2 is out. With quality improved to ideal levels for online streaming, Poe & C-3PO on the Raddus fixed, Poe removed in one scene and audio overlays fixed, almost all issues with this edit have been fixed.

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The name is… interesting…

Perhaps a better, less offensive title would be the “sacrifice cut” as Poe more sacrifices himself rather that commits suicide, and Kylo sacrifices Leia like a human offering to the dark side.

Maul- A Star Wars Story

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OutboundFlight said:

The name is… interesting…

Perhaps a better, less offensive title would be the “sacrifice cut” as Poe more sacrifices himself rather that commits suicide, and Kylo sacrifices Leia like a human offering to the dark side.

Excellent idea, I’ll go with that.

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For me personally, I’ll remember this as the “Defeminized Edit II: No ‘Admiral Purple Hair’ Edit (even though it’s easier/quicker to type ‘Holdo’)” - with the tag-line of ‘only a man can sacrifice himself - or sacrifice a woman to the dark side’ edit (read in one of those deep gravelly voices that did the 80’s film voiceover trailers).

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