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Star Wars Episode I: Cloak Of Deception (Released) — Page 3

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Guys I'm trying very hard to download this (complete saga blu-ray owner), but I can't find a good link. The dlc's don't work and can't find a torrent of v2. Does someone have it on their dropbox or google drive and care to send me a pm?

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Thanks for V3 of this brilliant Fanedit. I love this.

But I have a Problem with the Blu-Ray compatible 1080p MKV.

I'm using tsMuxerGui to create the BR iso. I did it with Harmys MKVs an it worked nicely. But with the same settings your Video stutters in my Blu-Ray Player. Audio works nice, Video not.

Cant someone help me what setting I have to use?

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Fantastic!!! What a great edit. Everything works so much better. I know it must have been hard to leave in those handful of Jar Jar scenes but it helps the movie flow and feel like a "real" movie. You could show this to someone who has never seen Episode I and I doubt they could ever tell it was a fan edit outside of the lower quality deleted scene footage (even then it isn't that easy to catch!)

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avantdark said:

Thanks for V3 of this brilliant Fanedit. I love this.

But I have a Problem with the Blu-Ray compatible 1080p MKV.

I'm using tsMuxerGui to create the BR iso. I did it with Harmys MKVs an it worked nicely. But with the same settings your Video stutters in my Blu-Ray Player. Audio works nice, Video not.

Cant someone help me what setting I have to use?

I had exactly the same problem this evening. Wasted a 25GB disc, so not going to risk trying it again until I know what the problem is. Plays on the computer fine but obviously something needs changing to make it fully blurry compliant?

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77FN said:

avantdark said:

Thanks for V3 of this brilliant Fanedit. I love this.

But I have a Problem with the Blu-Ray compatible 1080p MKV.

I'm using tsMuxerGui to create the BR iso. I did it with Harmys MKVs an it worked nicely. But with the same settings your Video stutters in my Blu-Ray Player. Audio works nice, Video not.

Cant someone help me what setting I have to use?

I had exactly the same problem this evening. Wasted a 25GB disc, so not going to risk trying it again until I know what the problem is. Plays on the computer fine but obviously something needs changing to make it fully blurry compliant?

 If you want something blurry compliant, don't use a Blu-ray disc.  Use a VHS tape, or a DVD if that's not an option.

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Am I right to assume that it plays fine on a BluRay player through USB? I'm sorry to hear that you have wasted resources trying to get this to work. I don't have any prior experience authoring BR discs, and don't have any myself. All I did was use Compressor's build-in BluRay video preset. Stuttering makes me suspect the bitrate, but I authored it well within the appropriate range, so I really can't say what's causing this problem.

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Hal 9000 said:

Am I right to assume that it plays fine on a BluRay player through USB? I'm sorry to hear that you have wasted resources trying to get this to work. I don't have any prior experience authoring BR discs, and don't have any myself. All I did was use Compressor's build-in BluRay video preset. Stuttering makes me suspect the bitrate, but I authored it well within the appropriate range, so I really can't say what's causing this problem.

 

I haven't tried that yet - unfortunately my player is restricted to the FAT32 file format which I think restricts me to 8GB file sizes? I guess I could try splitting it into sections though and see how my player (an Oppo BDP-83) handles that. I don't know much about it either, but if I find something that works I'll let you know. Will try de-muxing, and re-muxing it again and see if that works.

At any rate, thanks for such an awesome piece of work. Trying to make any of the prequels watchable is commendable ;) I've just had a quick scan through of various scenes on my computer & it looks fantastic. Looking forward to seeing the results of all your re-editing.

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edit: fixed problems on PowerDVD, will try to burn the iso now.

Alright, here are my findings:

Inserting SEI/VUI data results in video skipping in everything. PowerDVD, Totalmedia, PS3, PS4.

Disabling this allows it to play in PowerDVD, Totalmedia, and the PS3. PS4 still has scrambled video with green flickering. So something is still very wrong.

Hope this helps in some way.

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I tried splitting the MKV into smaller files to test it on the USB input of my blu-ray player. Lots of stuttering like the file was corrupted, but the audio was fine. The full MKV plays perfectly fine on my Mac mini via VLC though. Wishing I could solve this one as I'd love to play this through the projector.

Anyone else got any suggestions for remuxing it into a fully bluray compliant file? Cheers.

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Is there a way to test your existing disc with a different player? I wonder if, like with DVDs, some BR players can't handle the full bitrate spectrum the format supports.

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Hal 9000 said:

Is there a way to test your existing disc with a different player? I wonder if, like with DVDs, some BR players can't handle the full bitrate spectrum the format supports.

 That would be one explanation. Though it wouldn't explain why my disc worked on the PS3, and not the PS4. Should certainly be powerful enough.

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I'd also like to hear if anyone tried and had or didn't have this problem with v1 or v2. I believe I raised the bitrate very slightly this time around, but still low enough to easily fit onto a BD25 with room to spare. 

If indeed that's what's causing this problem, all versions must have been straddling this very fine line. I doubt it, though. 

My stance on revising fan edits.

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Hal 9000 said:

I'd also like to hear if anyone tried and had or didn't have this problem with v1 or v2. I believe I raised the bitrate very slightly this time around, but still low enough to easily fit onto a BD25 with room to spare. 

If indeed that's what's causing this problem, all versions must have been straddling this very fine line. I doubt it, though. 

If that's the case though then wouldn't the retail Star Wars Collection blu-rays also not play properly, or are your files at a higher bitrate than those? The official set plays fine on my player - I just don't want to see those ;)

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You're probably right, but I suppose the bit rate could possibly be higher than the source material, as it would still help retain quality as I encoded to an ultimately smaller file. 

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For those having Blu-Ray issues: there are several Blu Ray players out there that just will not play BD-Rs, period. Be sure to Google the model number of your player and see what it says (I found this out the hard way: I was working on a BR for a commercial release and some of our QA testers just could not play their test copies at all for this exact reason). I know for a fact that the PS3 WILL play BD-Rs (in fact my authoring software that I have said it was the "gold standard" for playback functionality), but the Xbox One will not. Not sure about the PS4.

As for the bit rate, I know the software I've got (DoStudio Indie 4.0) sets a limit at 40 Mbps for video with 48 Mbps total. It says that newer Blu Ray players are capable of higher bit rates but that the limit was placed to ensure maximum compatibility. What is the maximum bit rate of your file, Hal?

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 That would be one explanation. Though it wouldn't explain why my disc worked on the PS3, and not the PS4. Should certainly be powerful enough.


According to the PS4's website:

"Insert the disc, and then select the content from the content area. The first time you play a disc, you must enable the disc playback feature over the Internet."

Did you do this? I don't own a PS4 so I have no idea if they even make it obvious that it's something that needs to be done or not.

http://i.imgur.com/7N84TM8.jpg

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I'm interrupting my encode of the 720p version of Ep3 in order to render a very small test clip with a lower bitrate. I'll upload it for you guys to test out on your devices and see if it solves the problem. If so, I'll plan on dedicating yet another set of three weeks of CPU time to reencoding them. Stay tuned; I definitley want the final version I turn out to work for the majority of people who would be interested in it.

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For what it's worth, I've never had an issue playing BD-R's in my PS4. I haven't tried any of these edits on it, though, only my PS3 (and those were all v2, not v3, which I've just been getting in 720p until I have more free HDD space).

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I have played v1 on my Roku 2 XS from start to finish when they were first released, with no issues. I just tried playing v3 and found... stuttering video, as if it just can't quite keep up. I rendered three test clips of varying bit rates, and all of them stutter regardless. 

So, I am going to (try to) reacquire V1 or V2 from myspleen and test it. It's possible that a software update on my Roku could explain this, rather than any changes with my encoding settings. The most helpful thing right now would be to have people experiencing stuttering problems download v1 or v2 of any of the films and test them as well. If they have the same problem, I'll have to conclude that it is unavoidable and give up. If the older versions work fine, I'll keep investigating. (Though even lower bitrates than what I used before cause my Roku to stutter!)

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I do know that v2 1080p won't play on my Seagate FreeAgent Theater+ player, but the 720p has no issues. That doesn't help much, really, but again, the same v2 1080p files converted to BDMV with tsmuxer and burned to a BD-R play just fine on my PS3. I'll try them on my PS4 tomorrow if I get a chance and report back.

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I have a Justop Media Player plugged into my TV and it normally causes me all kinds of grief with high bitrate MKVs.  But it plays all of Hal's 1080p edits with no problems.

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Nanner Split said:

For those having Blu-Ray issues: there are several Blu Ray players out there that just will not play BD-Rs, period. Be sure to Google the model number of your player and see what it says (I found this out the hard way: I was working on a BR for a commercial release and some of our QA testers just could not play their test copies at all for this exact reason).

I'm using an Oppo BDP-83 - never had any problems with any BD-R disc until this one alas.

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Hal 9000 said:

I have played v1 on my Roku 2 XS from start to finish when they were first released, with no issues. I just tried playing v3 and found... stuttering video, as if it just can't quite keep up. I rendered three test clips of varying bit rates, and all of them stutter regardless. 

So, I am going to (try to) reacquire V1 or V2 from myspleen and test it. It's possible that a software update on my Roku could explain this, rather than any changes with my encoding settings. The most helpful thing right now would be to have people experiencing stuttering problems download v1 or v2 of any of the films and test them as well. If they have the same problem, I'll have to conclude that it is unavoidable and give up. If the older versions work fine, I'll keep investigating. (Though even lower bitrates than what I used before cause my Roku to stutter!)

Thanks for checking this out. It's a head-scratcher isn't it, I've looked at all the obvious video codec information and I can't see what would cause this stuttering. I'll have a look for an earlier version and test that out.