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I mean, he looks kinda shitty either way. I don’t mind whichever Ady goes with, but my suggestion is for no eyebrows. And if he can reduce the eggheadedness, then awesome!
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Here’s a solution that may not be feasible (or it may just be dumb, I don’t know), change Vader’s skin. Make Vader’s skin less less smooth and egg-ish and instead, to continue with the breakfast analogy, more like crispy bacon. The first one’s a joke picture, but my point still stands.
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Mmm … Darth Bacon. *drool*
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Take it here.
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Nah, the pasty whiteness of his skin comes from it never seeing the sun. And that’s cool.
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I wouldn’t be opposed to a more natural burn scar/skin graft look, but the charred black “crispy” look doesn’t fit with it being two decades after the incident to me.
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I wouldn’t be opposed to a more natural burn scar/skin graft look, but the charred black “crispy” look doesn’t fit with it being two decades after the incident to me.
Of course, I didn’t mean completely crispy, just something less healed than what we got.
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That Bacta tho.
“Because you are a PalpaWalker?”
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Can anything be done about the horrid music editing? Restoring Williams’s original intentions in the Battle of Endor would be great, cues like Into the Trap are such a travesty the way they are in the movie.
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I wouldn’t be opposed to a more natural burn scar/skin graft look, but the charred black “crispy” look doesn’t fit with it being two decades after the incident to me.
Of course, I didn’t mean completely crispy, just something less healed than what we got.
That Bacta tho.
That’s a good point. I don’t really see a need for adding new open wounds. People with horrible burns aren’t still all oozy 25 years later. (guessing on the time)
Can anything be done about the horrid music editing? Restoring Williams’s original intentions in the Battle of Endor would be great, cues like Into the Trap are such a travesty the way they are in the movie.
I’d forgotten about that! I remember buying the soundtrack on cassette when I was about 10 and thinking “Why isn’t it this way in the movie!?”
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From that stand point, he was burned with lava. Looking at Vader’s bald head shows the damage removed all his hair. Eyebrows are hair. So to me it would make sense for the removal.
It does make sense if you simply apply the same rule to all facial hair regardless of actual damage to the area. You are right that the top of his head is damaged but his eyebrow area is not, so even if his eyebrows were burnt off due to proximity to the lava, they would grow back.
I know this because of the fact that my cousin once had all his eyebrows burnt off from lighting a bonfire with petrol. He let the fuel sit too long before lighting it, allowing the vapour to gather around the bonfire stack and when he lit it, the vapour exploded and went up in a huge fireball, burning my cousins eyebrows right off. He still has eyebrows today though as they simply grew back 😉
If Vader had sustained the same kind of damage to his eyebrow area so as to stop them growing back, I doubt he would have a face left.
OT.com, the only place you’ll find people debating whether to keep a character’s eyebrows or not LOL! George simply shouldn’t have removed them in the first place, in which case we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
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RE: Vader’s unmasking.
Adywan, I am sure you have seen ‘I Am Your Father’, and I am also sure that whilst watching the reshot sequence with Dave Prowse that your mind was thinking “could this be something for ROTJ:R?”
Whilst the documentary was a commercially released property which ultimately prohibited the film makers from including the reshot sequence in their film, ROTJ:R is not.
Without having watched it we have no way of knowing whether the reshot unmasking with Prowse is better or worse than the theatrical version with Shaw, but what I would say is that ‘I Am Your Father’ was from a technical standpoint VERY well shot, and with really credible cinematography and so I would infer that the reshot scene would at least look the part.
The film makers are also approachable, and on facebook. This presents an almost unique opportunity for you to use HQ footage reshot with an actual SW actor. You might already be ahead of me here, but I think it well worth investigating…
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From that stand point, he was burned with lava. Looking at Vader’s bald head shows the damage removed all his hair. Eyebrows are hair. So to me it would make sense for the removal.
It does make sense if you simply apply the same rule to all facial hair regardless of actual damage to the area. You are right that the top of his head is damaged but his eyebrow area is not, so even if his eyebrows were burnt off due to proximity to the lava, they would grow back.
I know this because of the fact that my cousin once had all his eyebrows burnt off from lighting a bonfire with petrol. He let the fuel sit too long before lighting it, allowing the vapour to gather around the bonfire stack and when he lit it, the vapour exploded and went up in a huge fireball, burning my cousins eyebrows right off. He still has eyebrows today though as they simply grew back 😉
If Vader had sustained the same kind of damage to his eyebrow area so as to stop them growing back, I doubt he would have a face left.
OT.com, the only place you’ll find people debating whether to keep a character’s eyebrows or not LOL! George simply shouldn’t have removed them in the first place, in which case we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
.Val
Now that is raising your eye brows properly!
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PT or not, the story is that Vader took a tumble into lava. I don’t see any reason to omit the eyebrow removal change just because it kinda references the PT.
How about because it just looks very silly? Like Duracell said, he looks like Humpty Dumpty.
Honestly I think he looks a whole lot sillier with the eyebrows.
Me too.
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Yeah. People with eyebrows look sooo weird! 😕
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Yeah. People with eyebrows look sooo weird! 😕
Not everybody, but this guy definitely does
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I think it’s more the dark circles and the red lips that make him look a bit clownish.
You probably don’t recognize me because of the red arm.
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Well, for a better image:
The guy on the right looks like the formerly evil (and less than human) Darth Vader unmasked. The guy on the left looks like they’re trying to make him look like a nice old dude. Doesn’t fit the character.
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Yeah. People with eyebrows look sooo weird! 😕
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Well, for a better image:
The guy on the right looks like the formerly evil (and less than human) Darth Vader unmasked. The guy on the left looks like they’re trying to make him look like a nice old dude. Doesn’t fit the character.
+1
“You can’t polish a turd. But you can shape it to look like candy.”
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Well, for a better image:
I’m glad you posted that comparison image actually as it just demonstrated for me another reason to keep the eyebrows and that is that they actually help make his face far more expressive.
Looking at left image I can actually recall and see the emotion he is displaying as he is telling Luke that he was right (that there was still good in him). Looking at the right image I couldn’t tell you what is going on from just this image as it’s a lot harder to read up front. I can tell that both images aren’t an extract frame comparison but I think the heavily contrasted eyebrows really help to convey Vader’s emotions in this scene where you can only really see his upper face, his mouth being obscured by the breathing apparatus.
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I wouldn’t be opposed to a more natural burn scar/skin graft look, but the charred black “crispy” look doesn’t fit with it being two decades after the incident to me.
No, it’s pretty accurate.
Thanks for putting “burn victims” in my search history, btw.
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I found something that more accurately depicts what I think Vader could look like. He’s not freshly burned, but he’s not pale white.
I definitely don’t mean to tell anybody how it objectively should be, though. There’s arguments for every side, this is just my opinion.
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I think most people would agree that something about unmasked Vader looks off, and it’s been off from 1983 to present. Whatever visual change is implemented, the audience should probably feel pity and empathy at the human who has suffered so much with the consequences of their past mistakes.
In keeping with the stated purposes of this edit, whatever is done should lend more realism to the scene, so I’d suggest having places on his head where the helmet has rubbed the skin raw, such as around the cheeks and perhaps the sides of his head. I’d imagine that just having had a long and difficult fight, he would be sweating profusely. And finally, since we see the Emperor’s electricity coursing through his skull, there should be freshly burned areas of skin on his head.
You probably don’t recognize me because of the red arm.
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After all these years I didn’t think these films held any more surprises for me. Until earlier this year I discovered a new droid I had never noticed before! It can be found in the first shot of the Executor bridge as the Rebels are trying to sneak onto Endor in the shuttle Tydirium:
A closer examination of what’s left of the prop reveals that it’s a retooled torture droid given an Imperial makeover:
I believe this droid is the unacknowledged inspiration for K-2SO. As they share the same basic shape and height. In that same shot, a crewman approaches the droid and it towers over him. He’s hard to make out in stills, so I’ve outlined him:
So I was thinking, in line with the TFA bunk easter egg in ESBR. You might consider something like this?:
Just a thought!