STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION — Page 426

adywan said:

The scene is different from the original cut seen in despecialized. When they added in the extra shots of slave 1, they moved the music forward in the scene, so the music cue appears at a slightly different point. I didn’t alter the music when it switches to Boba Fett in the cockpit. it’s as it appears in the Blu-ray.

Oh, so it was in issue in the original mixing of the special edition’s audio track. Is there any adywan magic that can be done to smooth it out or would that mess up other stuff?

Oh, whilst the Vader fight isn’t going to be changed (although with unlimited resources and two stunt doubles…? LOLs) one thing I would like to see changed if at all possible is Obi-wan referring to Vader as “Darth” as if it was his first name and not title!

DZ-330 said:

This movie needs to stand on its own. We know the events of Rogue One happened. We don’t need to be reminded every 5 minutes.

It’s not about Rogue One, it’s more that the original deleted scene added a lot of significant weight to the destruction of Alderaan. Minus Jar Jar it would be perfect!

hgfed said:

adywan said:

The scene is different from the original cut seen in despecialized. When they added in the extra shots of slave 1, they moved the music forward in the scene, so the music cue appears at a slightly different point. I didn’t alter the music when it switches to Boba Fett in the cockpit. it’s as it appears in the Blu-ray.

Oh, so it was in issue in the original mixing of the special edition’s audio track. Is there any adywan magic that can be done to smooth it out or would that mess up other stuff?

If it really bothers you (and I’m not exactly saying it’s silly because I’m thinking of doing it for myself) you could pretty easily cut in the audio track for the original version (I suggest using the 93 mix for audio quality) for that scene quite seamlessly.

Edit:ignore that I forgot he kept the second shot but made the slave farther away from the falcon.

Although it would still be easy to use the original audio and remove that shot to be like the original for yourself if you wanted.

doubleofive said:

It was his first name when they were filming… You can think about it as if he’s mocking the title, that’s what I do.

I do sort-of do that! But it’s just a minor niggle that might be nice to fix 😃

And it’s consistent with Obi-Wan’s opinion of Anakin/Vader at this point of the story: he thinks he’s more machine than man and then denies him his name by using just his Sith Lord title.

Although I could see Obi-wan taunting him by calling him “Anakin”.

But that spoils the reveal in ESB! 😉

Possessed said:

If it really bothers you (and I’m not exactly saying it’s silly because I’m thinking of doing it for myself) you could pretty easily cut in the audio track for the original version (I suggest using the 93 mix for audio quality) for that scene quite seamlessly.

Edit:ignore that I forgot he kept the second shot but made the slave farther away from the falcon.

Although it would still be easy to use the original audio and remove that shot to be like the original for yourself if you wanted.

Maybe. I could edit the audio but I’m not so good with video editing. I could try though. Any slight benefits that the SE edition of that scene have aren’t worth the inclusion of that jarring audio transition (at least in my opinion). It’s just different music and an extra shot or two of slave 1, right? I don’t mind the original’s music.

adywan said:

The music is the same as the original. It just starts later in the scene because of the added shot of Slave 1 following the Falcon. But, at the point you are talking about, it is exactly the same as in the original, music wise. There is no jarring or bad edit there. The only thing different is the engine sound. If you wanted to replace it with the original audio you couldn’t without replacing a few shots because the sound effects would not line up with what’s on screen with Slave 1 starting its engines later.

Hmmm, okay, I guess the sound of the Slave 1 engine made transition between the escape music and the ominous cockpit music sound weird to me. It kind of sounds like the Falcon escape music stops abruptly.

Adywan What program do you use for effects? i use blender and hitflim.

Been looking at the Start of the film and here is some things that I noticed.

So In the SE DVD Menu we have the complete shot of “the escape pod” (actually there should be 2 of them) detaching from the Tantive and flying off whilst under the Devastator (Star Destroyer). This Pod should be destroyed.

When we see the pod flying away When R2-D2 and 3P0 are in the escape Pod the Tantive should be secured in the underbelly of the Star destroyer. i.e locked in the clamp.

Basically the shot of the escape POD flying away on the underbelly view was never at any point when it was shot the POD that R2-D2 and 3P0 are in because of the position of the BLocakade Runner not being locked in the underbelly of the Star Destroyer… So that shot in the film was always one of the decoy pods or simply somone trying to escape and it is obvious when it was meant to happen (before the Blockade Runner get’s clamped in).

The next thing in this part I noticed was that when Captain Antilles is strangled. I think a very good enhancement would be to remove the wire from his Helmet so as the Illusion is complete that Vader is picking him up in such a way by the throat. The Next point regarding this scene comes in the way of sound. Was listening to the radio drama and Captain Antilles is thrown in to a sort of Gas tank or something. In the Radio Drama when he hits the Tank it Makes a “Donk” noise… In the German Version (at least) it seems to use this same “Donk” noise from the radio drama. But in the Original sound mix it has on set audio for him hitting the wall… So the suggestion was to also swap that out as it seems like an audio editing goof for the original sound mix. Also the Radio Drama features some Gasping sounds which may have been intended to go in between the cracking of his neck upon him being strangled. Anyway you understand the Deal here. This could be a vast improvement.

The next part that had me thinking was C3-P0 waving to the Sandcrawler… Actually it is a black triangle with a flashing light. But what got me thinking was perhaps merging the original theatrical Sandcrawler model shot into this scene where he sees it then a smaller version roto-scoped in when he waves his arms and you can see the horizon… This way the Theatrical version is re-purposed in a honorable way and is not lost. But given how far away the Sandcrawler is in the original version it would not surprise me if it was actually intended to go in this scene.

Some food for thought but these are none the less interesting ideas I think. And I Guess I am just trying to evaluate the possibility of what can be kept from the theatrical cut also from any country for that matter. Can special edition and Theatrical version co-exist in the same film? Should we mourn a black triangle with a flashing light?

Ronster said:
The next part that had me thinking was C3-P0 waving to the Sandcrawler… Actually it is a black triangle with a flashing light. But what got me thinking was perhaps merging the original theatrical Sandcrawler model shot into this scene where he sees it then a smaller version roto-scoped in when he waves his arms and you can see the horizon… This way the Theatrical version is re-purposed in a honorable way and is not lost. But given how far away the Sandcrawler is in the original version it would not surprise me if it was actually intended to go in this scene.

Already done I think.

Yeah, that’s exactly how it goes in Revisited.

Collipso said:

Yeah, that’s exactly how it goes in Revisited.

Whoops sorry!

Just been having a poke around the film recently.

I’m not intending to do an edit of the film but I was curious about the scope of an extended edit. I only ever looked at the end Battle in terms what I would do with the film personally and It would not be any longer or perhaps a smidge tidbit… So I have just been looking at a few other parts for the first time that took my interest and it still is not getting much longer perhaps again a tinsy bit but nothing you could call a proper extended edit.

I just thought the ideas there might but up Adywans Street so at least one of is!

😃

One of the things I am really curious about and I think Ady handled it well was R2-D2 shots where he is on the Death Star but placed when he is on the Millennium Falcon. That is Ady Kept the shot in location but replaced the background which if fine, but I am very curious about where they came from and if they actual go somewhere else?

I have no idea at all but I am very curious about the R2-D2 death star shots during the chess game and When he laughs at 3P0 being tangled up after the Tie Fighter Attack. It’s those sorts of things that pique my interest.

ray_afraid said:

R2 laughing at 3PO tangled up was originally right after they cross the hallway during the shoot out at the beginning of the film. The film cuts away at the explosion, but that’s where the shot of 3PO tangled up originally went.

Thanks!

So that explains why 3P0 was later looking for him…

The ones during the chess game although I am not absolutely sure so don’t hold me over a Barrel but might go when Chewie is having his handcuffs put on him. At the end R2’s head changes position a few times. Not anything particularly earth shattering in any case. 😃

I have not checked this so unconfirmed but my gut tells me it’s around there somewhere…

I’m wondering how possible it would be to have Vader Be Force-choking the Rebel soldier at the start of the film. In the context of V & VI, using the actual hand seems silly to me.

Yeah I mean he force chokes someone later in the film anyway so it’s not like they hadn’t thought of it yet. It’s a great moment as it is.

For the HD version of this, is there going to be a new colour correction process? With today’s tools, it seems possible to make this look even better.

rockin said:

For the HD version of this, is there going to be a new colour correction process? With today’s tools, it seems possible to make this look even better.

He’s doing the new color correction now. There are a couple sample images on his facebook.