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SilverWook said:

All the CBS/FOX video releases in the U.S. used Style B. Style A did turn up as the back cover of the UK LD.

http://www.blam1.com/StarWars/1478-70.htm

 

The Japanese VHD format did use Style A for the front.

http://www.blam1.com/StarWars/1478-10.htm

Cool info. 

One thing I always like about Style A was that it used a blue lightsaber. Which, when I was a kid, was a great surprise once we saw Luke light a green saber when we first saw ROTJ. Now days, it's somewhat hard to avoid little spoilers like that online for new films or tv shows.

 

 

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According to a newspaper article I read back in '83, George himself was the hand model for the poster art.

Luke's saber was blue in the "Revenge" trailer. The change to a green blade was done pretty late in post production. The tiny image of the Death Star around Endor is a little spoiler in itself. ;)

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It's looking like Adywan won't have time to do the color correction of ROTP.  It's perfectly understandable, and I am honored that he did PSB.

I could do the color correction on ROTP myself, but there are surely people here who would do a better job.  Is there anyone here that the forum recommends?

It would involve taking the three .avi files (one per reel), and for each one finding a single color adjustment to apply to the entire reel.  I'd prefer that, rather than trying to do a scene-by-scene adjustment, because that would preserve the relative color balance of the original 16mm films.  This is what Adywan did for PSB.

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I shudder at the thought of distracting you from your primary mission(s).  However, it does occur to me that there is the outside chance that some of the material could be of use to you.  Ok, I guess the next stop is PM.  Thanks!

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Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

It's looking like Adywan won't have time to do the color correction of ROTP.  It's perfectly understandable, and I am honored that he did PSB.

I could do the color correction on ROTP myself, but there are surely people here who would do a better job.  Is there anyone here that the forum recommends?

It would involve taking the three .avi files (one per reel), and for each one finding a single color adjustment to apply to the entire reel.  I'd prefer that, rather than trying to do a scene-by-scene adjustment, because that would preserve the relative color balance of the original 16mm films.  This is what Adywan did for PSB.

 

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And I expect that it'll remain so. There may be a few shots in Puggo's ROTJ transfer that will be useful, since it won't have DNR but I don't think the Anakin ghost will be one of them. I'm sure that Puggo's transfer will be great for what it is but the ROTJ GOUT (PAL version) is the best of the three (or the least horrible anyway) and from the screenshots Puggo posted, the print probably won't surpass it unfortunately; I'm sorry to say it but look at Puggo Grande - while it's great in it's own way, you can hardly say that it's better than the GOUT in terms of sources.

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timdiggerm said:

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

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Won't ROTP be our highest quality Sebastian-Shaw-ghost source, ...

Yikes, that's sad.

I mean, at present it's GOUT....

What about the TB or other versions of the '97 SE? The Hayden ghost was an '04 change, wasn't it?

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That too, though I'm not sure but there may be some frames missing where they split the shot. And I think there were some other issues with it that made me opt for GOUT in ROTJ DeEdv1.0 - maybe compression artifacts or something like that, don't quite remember.

@timdiggerm: I could be wrong about this assumption though - I can't tell for sure until I see the transfer of course, so what I said there was just my informed speculation.

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SilverWook said:

The Revenge poster is perfect for the back cover. Never seen that variant of the 1985 poster art before. I think these two are more iconic though...

http://www.theforce.net/collecting/posters/rotj/style-a.asp

http://www.theforce.net/collecting/posters/rotj/style-b.asp

I don't know if textless versions are out there.

The front cover is from 1983 (UK Quads). 1985 re-release poster is this one.

I posted a good textless style B here. The style A half-sheet could be made into a textless version, as the text is on the left and the artwork on the right.

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Don't you hate posters that give away the ending? ;)

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Harmy said:

I'm sorry to say it but look at Puggo Grande - while it's great in it's own way, you can hardly say that it's better than the GOUT in terms of sources.

 I take it someone hasn't seen Puggo Strikes Back...

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Well, I have of course. And it's beautiful in its own right and at a glance (like I said, can't say for sure before more thorough examination) the ESB print looks better in terms of detail than the ROTJ but even there I'll probably be sticking mostly to the GOUT as a source except for shots with heavy DVNR. Because even though  and it may be possible to squeeze more detail out of it than there is in the GOUT and it was proved to be possible for it to be cleaned up quite nicely (provided I can get my hands on the original captures) it's still heavily cropped and has a lot of cases of seriously blown out whites and crushed blacks.

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Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

Yes, even I agree that the GOUT is likely to be a better source.  The equipment I have to work with just isn't at the same level as the professional telecine stuff they have in Hollywood.

 

Did you check your pm yet puggo?

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lpd said:

Hoping someone from ot.com is on this.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Star-Wars-Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-Rare-Super-8mm-Scope-Feature-Film-/400454509077?pt=US_Film&hash=item5d3cf2e215

I spoke with poita and he decided not to bid on it after being told by the seller that it's terribly blue-shifted and is a "blue mess" during the Ewok battle scenes.

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What a shame, the guy should really say that on his description.

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Puggo,

We've tried to contact you about the color correction. But have not received a response yet. Will try again.

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AntcuFaalb said:

lpd said:

Hoping someone from ot.com is on this.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Star-Wars-Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-Rare-Super-8mm-Scope-Feature-Film-/400454509077?pt=US_Film&hash=item5d3cf2e215

I spoke with poita and he decided not to bid on it after being told by the seller that it's terribly blue-shifted and is a "blue mess" during the Ewok battle scenes.

Shocking, as I somehow thought Derann prints were immune to that sort of thing. As Jaxxon was watching the auction, I'll pass that info along. :)

As this was the same seller as that recent Star Wars print, I wonder if they've got the elusive Empire Super 8? (Not released by Derann.)

BTW, did anyone here get this one?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MAKING-STAR-WARS-16mm-film-print-GREAT-COLOR-2-Reels-RARE-/290890548214

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