Info: Recommended Editions of Disney Animated (and Partially Animated) Features — Page 4

Just rewatch the first 30 seconds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-z0o26HD40

"In fact, Sleeping Beauty, was the second film in history to undergo this extensive computer restoration process."  (The first being the 1994 release of Snow White.)

Maybe not entirely... but 'extensive' is a troubling word.

Edit: I think the point they are making is the restoration was DONE for the 1994 release, not started in 1994.

nirbateman said:

I would say that a private forum would be best, as it would also allow others to share bits that are needed to make full preservations possible.

I agree.. it will be cool to found a website devoted only to video preservation. I LOVE OT.com, but now that I started myself some preservation projects about non-SW movies, I'd like to have a place where sharing ideas, info, technical tips, audio/video/subs tracks...

I could use phpbb.com, but I am not tech savvy enough.

I am, and I have also a good domain to use... if someone is interested, please P.M. me - hope to be not too o.t. here...

Just a note, a couple minor changes have been made to the guide including Dumbo comments, mentioning some upcoming BD release dates (not that we expect much from them) and that the Platinum Edition of Bambi includes a digital fix of the teleporting raccoon.

I'm not aware of any other continuity fixes in the digital releases of Bambi.  The raccoon being the most well known anyway.

My apologies to Andrea for jumping-the-gun, but here's information on the new preservation-centric forum: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/New-Preservation-Forum-AMPS-Analog-Media-Preservation-Society/post/646523/#TopicPost646523

In case you guys aren't sick of Dumbo discussion and screenshots.  I've got three more that blew my mind last night. 

Not exactly the same frame, but the audience?  The ringmaster's pants and cummerbund?  The lighting?  Yikes, are these even the same film?  (Added these to my downloadable comparison in the first post.)

Lighting and contrast comparison:

60th Anniversary

Big Top Edition

70th Anniversary

The 60th Anniversary transfer was done with the scanning settings fubared. The setting was far too bright which made the lighter areas blow out in darker scenes, like the cummerbund. I have actually seen that Dumbo cel and his pants should be yellow and the cummerbund an aqua/cyan colour.

I think going back to film releases will be our only chance of a good colour reference for these movies.

I understand there have been 3 different laserdisc releases, but the only screenshot comparison I found has gone funny (as in all pictures are black and white (useless of course)).

Yeah, it's pretty bad that the Diamond edition really IS the best the film has looked.  It's just wrong for other reasons.

A heads up, anyone looking for ADM's Aladdin should probably PM me.

Discussing something altogether different somewhere else, I came across a discussion that led me to this:

Chicken Little:

Disney gave Chicken Little to a 3rd-party to convert the film into 3D. However, they provided original 3D models, so it's nearly a native rendering. This is similar to Meet the Robinsons. Ideally, they would've re-rendered with a second virtual camera.

Meet the Robinsons:

According to this YouTube they appear to have original 3D models. I also talked to a friend of some of the crewmembers, and apparently they projected the original 2D image onto the 3D models because it was faster than re-rendering with a second camera. This is why it appears like a longer conversion process in this article. If you have the original 3D geometry, that's real enough.

Beauty and the Beast:

Since new 3D models are being created to extrude the original 2D objects, this counts to me as new content, and so Beauty and the Beast will technically be "Fake 3D." However, Disney has all the original artwork saved in separate levels, so there may not be much "filling in the blanks" done by the new animators. Instead, the conversion may be more like the process used in Meet the Robinsons (see note 3) which I categorized as "Real 3D." Plus, unlike the other "Fake" films, Beast is neither live action nor 3D animation, and so moviegoers are not being sold an inauthentic experience.

No word if Lion King or Little Mermaid are converted in the manner.

Anyway, I don't need to update the guide for them because it's still definitely not OTV, but Chicken Little and Meet the Robinsons has me scratching my head.   Were the 3D versions released simultaneously?  Are they still considered 'modified' from the original animator's intent?

Probably.  VERY probably.

I'll attempt a last second bid on SB & Cinders. If anyone would like to help out I would *really* appreciate it. It will mean selling my 16mm telecine setup to fund it.

I can't see Lady and the Tramp??

Why would Magic and Music be on film? I mean, yeah, they probably shot it on film, but it wouldn't have been distributed to theaters.

This program was first shown on "Disneyland" in black-and-white when the show aired on ABC, but was repeated in 1962 in color after the show moved to NBC under the title "The Wonderful World of Color".

I'd like to say go for it, but it sound suspicious.