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yhwx said:

Holy shit NRA.

https://twitter.com/NRATV/status/921390510576562176

“We are witnesses to the most ruthless attack on a president & the people who voted for him…in American history." -@DLoesch #NRA

https://www.nratv.com/series/freedoms-safest-place/episode/freedoms-safest-place-season-2-episode-5-the-ultimate-insult

I hope many, many people who will see those posts and videos will see them for what they are - awful deflection and rallying tactics… without balance and context (and awareness of US history) - playing on fear, and also inflammatory.

If their beliefs cannot tolerate criticism or ‘sneering’, then perhaps they should question themselves as to whether their beliefs are actually sound.

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yhwx said:

No, since the purpose of that picture was not to inflame.

the purpose didn’t seem to matter before.

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Warbler said:

yhwx said:

No, since the purpose of that picture was not to inflame.

the purpose didn’t seem to matter before.

Warbler, don’t get hung up on this, please!

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That’s like asking the sun to not rise in the morning!

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Warbler said:

yhwx said:

No, since the purpose of that picture was not to inflame.

the purpose didn’t seem to matter before.

I don’t know what you’re talking about. Posting relevant images that include the Confederate or Nazi or whatever flags isn’t a problem.

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moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

No, since the purpose of that picture was not to inflame.

the purpose didn’t seem to matter before.

I don’t know what you’re talking about. Posting relevant images that include the Confederate or Nazi or whatever flags isn’t a problem.

I don’t know how you couldn’t what I am talking about.

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Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

No, since the purpose of that picture was not to inflame.

the purpose didn’t seem to matter before.

I don’t know what you’re talking about. Posting relevant images that include the Confederate or Nazi or whatever flags isn’t a problem.

I don’t know how you couldn’t what I am talking about.

I certainly couldn’t what you were talking about.

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I can’t even.

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‘No Donald Trump, ‘Radical Islamic Terror’ Did Not Cause A 13% Rise In UK Crime’…

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/donald-trump-uk-crime-tweet_uk_59e9d224e4b0df10767c4afd?utm_hp_ref=uk

^ an interesting read, not only for highlighting Trump’s inability to read past a headline (again), but also that this’ll be another error from him whether there will be no apology or acknowledgement that he got it so wrong (again)… and he’ll likely move on to the next new subject in a bid to try and deflect focus/scrutiny away from his own shortcomings (again).

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Warbler said:

To some the Confederate flag is about heritage, not hate. Not saying they are right, but that is how some feel.

The heritage canard gets thrown around for more than just the Confederate flag.

Asked about the pin he was wearing during the interview, Fears said “it’s basically just like an SS thing.” Explaining the significance of the pin would require an extensive conversation about World War II, he said. “And it’s my heritage, I’m German.”

Yup, just heritage. Nothing to see here. The fact that they single out the most racist possible symbols of that heritage is just a coincidence I’m sure. The Nascar folks were evenly split between the Confederate flag and William Faulkner to represent Southern heritage, and just randomly picked the flag with a coin toss, I’m sure.

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CatBus said:

Warbler said:

To some the Confederate flag is about heritage, not hate. Not saying they are right, but that is how some feel.

The heritage canard gets thrown around for more than just the Confederate flag.

Asked about the pin he was wearing during the interview, Fears said “it’s basically just like an SS thing.” Explaining the significance of the pin would require an extensive conversation about World War II, he said. “And it’s my heritage, I’m German.”

Yup, just heritage. Nothing to see here. The fact that they single out the most racist possible symbols of that heritage is just a coincidence I’m sure. The Nascar folks were evenly split between the Confederate flag and William Faulkner to represent Southern heritage, and just randomly picked the flag with a coin toss, I’m sure.

I see your point, but the Confederacy and Nazi Germany are a false equivalence.

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moviefreakedmind said:

CatBus said:

Warbler said:

To some the Confederate flag is about heritage, not hate. Not saying they are right, but that is how some feel.

The heritage canard gets thrown around for more than just the Confederate flag.

Asked about the pin he was wearing during the interview, Fears said “it’s basically just like an SS thing.” Explaining the significance of the pin would require an extensive conversation about World War II, he said. “And it’s my heritage, I’m German.”

Yup, just heritage. Nothing to see here. The fact that they single out the most racist possible symbols of that heritage is just a coincidence I’m sure. The Nascar folks were evenly split between the Confederate flag and William Faulkner to represent Southern heritage, and just randomly picked the flag with a coin toss, I’m sure.

I see your point, but the Confederacy and Nazi Germany are a false equivalence.

There’s a difference between false equivalence and an imperfect analogy – otherwise you could say false equivalence for any analogy. If someone said a bird was as blue as the sky, you couldn’t really say “false equivalence, the sky is airy and the bird is all feathery”. You have to consider the quality for which they’re being compared – the blueness. As far as foundations firmly rooted in brutally racist ideologies, Nazis and Confederates are pretty close. But there were differences: the Confederacy was more focused on forced labor camps than extermination, the Confederacy was much more limited in the scale of its military ambitions to only attacking the United States, and Germany was a legitimate nation, to name a few.

Probably the closest modern analogue for the Confederacy I can think of is ISIS. A group of fanatics with delusions of statehood, trying to enforce a brutal medieval philosophy already abandoned by the rest of the world on the population unfortunate enough to live under their control, with surprisingly capable military commanders for an otherwise backward operation, but ultimately doomed to lose the fight they started. And even then there’s a few differences.

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darth_ender said:

Made me emotional.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/protester-hugged-nazi-pleads-hate-article-1.3575977

Well in Aaron Courtney, and thanks for posting that link d_e - positive news/stories in politics is always welcome 😃

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CatBus said:

moviefreakedmind said:

CatBus said:

Warbler said:

To some the Confederate flag is about heritage, not hate. Not saying they are right, but that is how some feel.

The heritage canard gets thrown around for more than just the Confederate flag.

Asked about the pin he was wearing during the interview, Fears said “it’s basically just like an SS thing.” Explaining the significance of the pin would require an extensive conversation about World War II, he said. “And it’s my heritage, I’m German.”

Yup, just heritage. Nothing to see here. The fact that they single out the most racist possible symbols of that heritage is just a coincidence I’m sure. The Nascar folks were evenly split between the Confederate flag and William Faulkner to represent Southern heritage, and just randomly picked the flag with a coin toss, I’m sure.

I see your point, but the Confederacy and Nazi Germany are a false equivalence.

There’s a difference between false equivalence and an imperfect analogy – otherwise you could say false equivalence for any analogy. If someone said a bird was as blue as the sky, you couldn’t really say “false equivalence, the sky is airy and the bird is all feathery”. You have to consider the quality for which they’re being compared – the blueness. As far as foundations firmly rooted in brutally racist ideologies, Nazis and Confederates are pretty close. But there were differences: the Confederacy was more focused on forced labor camps than extermination, the Confederacy was much more limited in the scale of its military ambitions to only attacking the United States, and Germany was a legitimate nation, to name a few.

Probably the closest modern analogue for the Confederacy I can think of is ISIS. A group of fanatics with delusions of statehood, trying to enforce a brutal medieval philosophy already abandoned by the rest of the world on the population unfortunate enough to live under their control, with surprisingly capable military commanders for an otherwise backward operation, but ultimately doomed to lose the fight they started. And even then there’s a few differences.

The Nazis wanted to conquer the world and kill all the Jewish people and others that were not like Aryans. The Confederacy wanted a country of its own. Some(probably most) wanted to preserve slavery(which I absolutely agree was an evil and racist goal). Some felt the states were allowed to secede from the US. Some preferred a government where the states had much more power to decide things for themselves(and yes, that includes, but not exclusively, the slavery issue).

I think the Confederacy and the Nazis were a bit different. I think the Nazis were much more evil.

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Warbler said:

I hate to say it, I think it is time stop doing the National Anthem at sporting events for a bit.

Glad we agree.

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perhaps we do agree in a small way.