Pat Robertson does it again

I am an atheist, but I have no problem with religion. Your life, your choice to believe what you want. After all, I know just as much about the existence of a god or gods as one who believes - that is to say, nothing at all. It is as much of a leap of faith for me to say that there definitely is no god as it is for a believer to say that there definitely is.

That said, Pat Robertson once again does his level best to convince those on the fence that religion is a breeding ground for morons. To wit:

"They (Haitians) were under the heel of the French...and they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said 'We will serve you'...and so, the devil said 'Okay, it's a deal' and kicked the French out,"

What an asshat.

http://www.fox40.com/news/headlines/ktxl-news-haitiquake-patrobertson0113,0,5284708.story

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maArcr6b6l8&feature=player_embedded
Just to see it in context.

When is that crusty old jackass going to die already?

A little bit of irony here.

French rescue workers are seen at Paris Roissy airport en route to Haiti, Wednesday, Jan. 13, 2010.

Woot! Look Pat, God is kicking Satan's ass. The French are returning! They were even packed and ready to go. Score another one for the big "G".

But seriously folks, Pat Robertson is a total douche bag. 

Haiti is a such radically Catholic country! The people are dying of AIDS in droves because they are so devoted to religious dogma, and not using condoms.  

Now if only Rick Warren's shenanigans in Uganda would get more publicity.

Nanner Split said:

Now if only Rick Warren's shenanigans in Uganda would get more publicity.

His "shenanigans in Uganda"? I am pretty tired right now, and did little more than skim the article, but from what I read it seems he merely refused to speak out against it because he ddn't feel it was his place to do so, while at the same time admitting that he didn't agree with the policy. Does that really constitute as a "shenanigan"? Kind of interesting to hear of a well known American pastor (especially one of the annoyingly lovey dovey variety as Rick Warren) not feeling the need to denounce something as awful as that as downright wrong, it certainly says a lot about him. But from the way you worded it, I was half expecting to read that he was going to Uganda, passing out machettes, and preaching that it is a Christians duty to rid the world of homosexuals.

And yeah, Pat Robertson is a piece o' shit.

Warbler said:

yeah both are wrong.    I wonder,  if any among the killed or wounded are truly devote Christians?    I'd like to hear from them.    I mean if god is punishing the people of Hatti because they turned to Satan, what do the truly devote Christians of Hatti think of god punishing them along the those in Hatti who are not Christian?  Surely god is smart enough to think of a way to just punish the non Christians who turned to Satan without punishing the true Christians who did not turn to Satan.?....

the standard answer that many christians will give to that is : "well it's all part of god's great design, and we are not meant to understand, blah blah"

humbug, Imho.

I was raised as a catholic, but going through high school I understood I never really cared for any of that stuff, let alone believe in it. For me there is no such thing as "believe it, it's true!!".... well aside from few things that I take for granted, but nothing supernatural.

this is a man I would've loved to meet, but I never had a chance to, as I "discovered" him a year after his passing, and I live in another continent anyway:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNy6ziOyxoA

Warbler said:

oh good god

I truly can't stand Pat Roberson.   He gives Christians a bad name. 

The problem is, the majority of Christians give Christians a bad name. Televangelists make the faith look insane.

The reason so many people have religion is because, (in context to creation) science cannot explain creation without saying Bang.

I hate to start an argument, but I cannot grasp the idea of a creation without a creator. The universe couldn't have just decided to exist. My beliefs are easier to grasp than "It just happened".

EyeShotFirst said:

The reason so many people have religion is because, (in context to creation) science cannot explain creation without saying Bang.

I hate to start an argument, but I cannot grasp the idea of a creation without a creator. The universe couldn't have just decided to exist. My beliefs are easier to grasp than "It just happened".

 

don't worry about starting an argument (or rather a nice exchange of opinions wich i prefer), it's just because we care in what we think, that we "argue", you know what I'm sayin?

now, in my opinion the reason so many people have religion, and have always had beliefs and such, is because they'd like to have certainties, something to rely on, and because of the arrogant idea that man (as in Homo Sapiens Sapiens) is Special, is better than all the other animals when in fact he's just another animal, just as stupid or as clever as an ostrich or an ant.

there are instances in life where we like to complicate things, and there are others in wich we certainly don't. beliefs is one of those. "why does that... who did this and that..... MAGIC". it's just easier. or rather it was...

no I take it back. there are also complicated beliefs, with long lists of what you should and should not do, and such and such. well I guess a gift humanity will NEVER experience is COHERENCE! I know that for sure.

In context to creation, the main thing, for me, is, wrong name. it's not a creation, cause a creation, as logic would put it, requires a creator.

science has not yet got the whole picture, and who knows if it will (certainly not in our lifetimes), but we, as it is now, cannot yet wrap our head around it. scientists can't do that, let alone Average Joe. just the fact that in high school they teach you just the basics of relativity, and when i mean basics i mean abc, and that is just the beginning of modern science.... first you had to understand what the universe is... and that alone is something nobody agrees on.

Well Ferris, I didn't intend that, and I hope my first post reflects that intention of mine. Pat Robertson doesn't taint my view of Christianity or believers in general - my problem with him is solely with him and the kooky things he says every now and then.

The vast majority of Christians I know are good and decent people, EyeShotFirst. Where do you live that you run into so many religious nutcases?

vote_for_palpatine said:

Well Ferris, I didn't intend that, and I hope my first post reflects that intention of mine. Pat Robertson doesn't taint my view of Christianity or believers in general - my problem with him is solely with him and the kooky things he says every now and then.

The vast majority of Christians I know are good and decent people, EyeShotFirst. Where do you live that you run into so many religious nutcases?

Earth.

Leonardo said:

... and because of the arrogant idea that man (as in Homo Sapiens Sapiens) is Special, is better than all the other animals when in fact he's just another animal, just as stupid or as clever as an ostrich or an ant.

LOL! I suppose it is the humbleness of the ostriches and ants that have made them decide against driving around in automobiles or studying their own anatomy in order to preform advanced surgeries on one another in order to save their lives? Yeah, that makes sense. Man, and I thought the Christians tended to make themselves sound like retards!

C3PX said:

Leonardo said:

... and because of the arrogant idea that man (as in Homo Sapiens Sapiens) is Special, is better than all the other animals when in fact he's just another animal, just as stupid or as clever as an ostrich or an ant.

LOL! I suppose it is the humbleness of the ostriches and ants that have made them decide against driving around in automobiles or studying their own anatomy in order to preform advanced surgeries on one another in order to save their lives? Yeah, that makes sense. Man, and I thought the Christians tended to make themselves sound like retards!

Anyone can sound like a retard, it's not that difficult.

I will repeat it, Man is both clever AND stupid. He's clever because he invented many things, including the internet wich we are now using, and he's really stupid cause we've got genocide, wich is not only morally wrong --you say eliminate the moral part? : it is counterproductive to our species' survival!

I still think it's arrogant to think at our species as the best there is out there. Just because we have culture and stuff.... chimpanzees have culture, I'm told, yet they're not considered "people", they're considered "dumb animals"