Oscars 2004

Author: GundarkHunter
Date: 27-Jan-2004, 12:12 PM

Author: GundarkHunter
Time: 27-Jan-2004 12:12 PM
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OK, this will be our official discussion thread for all things Oscar this year.

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Author: Bossk
Time: 27-Jan-2004 12:39 PM
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I liked Lost in Translation a lot especially because of its originality. I know I'm gonna get flamed for not picking ROTK. But I feel that if any of the LOTR films deserved Best Picture, it would be TTT. Yes, the visuals were great in ROTK and I loved the Smeagol/Deagol bit in the beginning and the development of Pippen's character, the movie just wasn't as good as the previous two. I was bored with several stretches of it and just wanted that damn ending to actually end already.

However, knowing the Academy, they are going to run with ROTK because it is a sentimental favorite due to the time and effort exerted by Peter Jackson, et al, which is not how they should do it. They should be judging based on this movie alone and not the series.

My money goes to Lost in Translation.

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Author: Shimraa
Time: 27-Jan-2004 1:21 PM
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plain and simple this year ROTK will represent to entire trilogy. for that reason it will win. lotr was more like one big movie then it will ever be 3 seperate movies and for that reason i think the trilogy will be looking it lotr as movie of the year not as RotK.

if that didnt make any sence plz forgive me in the last 5 days i have gone through 17 and a half hours of exams so i am a bit worn out.

Author: sean wookie
Time: 27-Jan-2004 1:21 PM
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yes the ending took way too long to get to and then it came a half hour later

Author: Shimraa
Time: 27-Jan-2004 1:23 PM
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it was ending 3 movies not one, inorder to have given lotr a rouned effect he had to do that, or it wouldnt feel finished.

Author: GundarkHunter
Time: 27-Jan-2004 1:38 PM
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I picked option #1 because my two favourite films of the year (Kill Bill Vol I and Dirty Pretty Things) didn't make the list. I can understand the snub for Kill Bill, but Dirty Pretty Things really deserved Academy recognition.

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Author: Shimraa
Time: 27-Jan-2004 1:40 PM
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i dont know why it is not up there. personally i felt that the last samuri should have gotten recognition.

Author: GundarkHunter
Time: 27-Jan-2004 1:57 PM
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I'm amazed that Johnny Depp got the nod for PotK. Not that it's a bad performance, but the nomination seems so uncharacteristic for the Academy.

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Author: Rebel Scumb
Time: 27-Jan-2004 2:02 PM
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I haven't seen Lost in translation yet, part of me wants to vote for Master & Commander, because I really really liked it. But I think overall ROTK (despite many problematic elements) is still the best in many ways.

Even though I'm a fan of the books, I kind of think that the ending could of been cut and saved for the EE. When all of Gondor bows to the hobbits, that could of been the ending and left 90% of audiences very happy.

Still ROTK was great, not quite as good as FOTR, but much better then TTT, and all around the best paced of the three with a lot of solid entainment value.

I liked Mystic river when I saw it, but the more I think about it, it was actually pretty bad.

Still haven;t seen Seabiscuit either.

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Author: Rebel Scumb
Time: 27-Jan-2004 2:04 PM
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Originally posted by: GundarkHunter
I'm amazed that Johnny Depp got the nod for PotK. Not that it's a bad performance, but the nomination seems so uncharacteristic for the Academy.

Its hardly an oscar worth perfomance, especially considering Depp's incredible portfolio of work. In general I found POTC to be very average, with Depp's role being the only real stand out element.

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Author: GundarkHunter
Time: 27-Jan-2004 3:52 PM
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Geoffrey Rush very nearly stole the show, though.

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Author: Shimraa
Time: 27-Jan-2004 8:06 PM
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Originally posted by: Rebel Scumb
I haven't seen Lost in translation yet, part of me wants to vote for Master & Commander, because I really really liked it. But I think overall ROTK (despite many problematic elements) is still the best in many ways.

Even though I'm a fan of the books, I kind of think that the ending could of been cut and saved for the EE. When all of Gondor bows to the hobbits, that could of been the ending and left 90% of audiences very happy.

Still ROTK was great, not quite as good as FOTR, but much better then TTT, and all around the best paced of the three with a lot of solid entainment value.

I liked Mystic river when I saw it, but the more I think about it, it was actually pretty bad.

Still haven;t seen Seabiscuit either.

i think this is a monumental day. for once i agree with you completely rebel.

Author: Bossk
Time: 28-Jan-2004 3:52 AM
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Originally posted by: GundarkHunter
I'm amazed that Johnny Depp got the nod for PotK. Not that it's a bad performance, but the nomination seems so uncharacteristic for the Academy.

I'm not surprised based on its "uncharacteristicness". Recall Kevin Kline in A Fish Called Wanda? Hell, he went beyond just being nominated and won the award.

Author: GundarkHunter
Time: 28-Jan-2004 5:41 AM
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Yeah, but that was a supporting nod; they're more inclined to give it to unconventional nominees there, or did you forget Marisa Tomei?

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Author: motti_soL
Time: 28-Jan-2004 6:29 AM
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ive only seen M&C:FSOTW and ROTK... id have to go with ROTK, but i have yet to see dirty pretty things, lost in translation and mystic river... no picking for at the moment.

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Author: Bossk
Time: 28-Jan-2004 7:05 AM
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True on Tomei. But, this whole year is proving unconventional to some degree. Keisha Castle-Hughes for best actress? Not that she doesn't deserve. I will be the first to admit that she was great in that role. But for the Academy to recognize her with a nomination blew my mind. If she wins, she will be the youngest winner. The previously recognized youngest winners (Tatum O'Neal and Anna Paquin) were supporting actress winners.

Author: motti_soL
Time: 28-Jan-2004 10:08 AM
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i think we should expect a commercial Oscar deliberation, since Jack Valenti said that no screeners will be sent to the members of the Academy or to anyone else for that matter. meaning that independent and indie films will not stand the biggest chance, coz the members have not seen the movie... although far-fatched, it could still mean something.

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Author: Bossk
Time: 28-Jan-2004 11:02 AM
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True on the no screeners policy. However, screeners were used in the past to determine the nominations as well (to the best of my recollection). So, the fact that these people were nominated despite the no-screener policy is still pretty big. And Whale Rider is out on video now anyway, so it would be easy enough for someone to see it.

Author: Shimraa
Time: 28-Jan-2004 11:17 AM
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my friends mom is on the academy. and she gets alot of movies sent to her in the mail. alot.

Author: Bossk
Time: 28-Jan-2004 11:22 AM
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She's not supposed to anymore.

Author: Shimraa
Time: 28-Jan-2004 11:23 AM
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really, ill have to call my friend then.

Author: motti_soL
Time: 28-Jan-2004 12:46 PM
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i think it also involves the nominations, not sure though. but he also cut off the press. what an idiot.

"The ability to speak does not make you intelligent."
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Author: Luke Skywalker
Time: 28-Jan-2004 1:11 PM
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i suggest we have an oscar pool on here... and whoever wins gets the admiration of all others on the boards as well as bragging rights.. lol
what do u say?

and for my comments on the oscars..
Johnny Depp - whoa! didnt see that coming for a million years... many are saying he's unlikely to win however from the movies ive seen i think his only real competition is Sean Penn.... however i would love to see Bill Murray win it just to hear his acceptance speech!!
Best Picture - i'm sayin LOTR not just because i like it but because they have to give some big credit to the movies as a whole.. and as someone else said on here that last movie represents them all...
Animated Feature Film - is it even a contest? lol

and ya whats with cold mountain gettin the cold shoulder.... damn from what ive been hearing about that movie i thought it would have been a regular in the nominee's list... goin to see it this weekend so maybe then ill understand why they kept it out....

and ya as for the majority of the technical awards... ( these being costume, visual effects, makeup) and all the rest... im guessing that LOTR will take home the majority...

so thats my two cents...
one thing im dreading about the Oscar's is stupid Joan and Melissa Rivers....

anyone else feel the same way?
lol

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Author: motti_soL
Time: 28-Jan-2004 1:59 PM
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lotr getting all... nepotism...

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Author: Shimraa
Time: 28-Jan-2004 7:36 PM
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sounds good some one make a thread with all the nomentees listed for each of the major awards.