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For those that are disappointed with the change in direction from Goldeneye to Never Say Never Again, I am sorry.

The fact of the matter is, Never Say Never Again got a proper HD treatment, Goldeneye did not.

My computer isn't the best with HD, but it is James Bond, not Star Wars.

I will be making a new intro sequence for this movie. I don't want to be lazy and use the Thunderball sequence. I'm treating this as a separate film.

Thankfully with it being a Connery bond, I can go all brass and class with the soundtrack. I will be using Barry tracks, and a few outside sources. I've actually got the gut of my soundtrack compiled.

No I will not use the Never Say Never Again song in this film. Yeah, the Phyllis Hyman version is good, but if I'm going to go the Eon Bond route, I'm going all out.

Sure it's the 80's in this Bond, but aside from the technology, it still seems retro at points, so I'm going to play that up.

 

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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Excellent work, EyeShotFirst! I never really felt Eric Serra's score worked particularly well (not a particular fan of his work in general). This is a great musical substitute. I always felt Goldeneye was really a traditional Bond film, that mysteriously lacked the traditional Bond-esque score. Keep up the good work.

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The Aluminum Falcon said:

Excellent work, EyeShotFirst! I never really felt Eric Serra's score worked particularly well (not a particular fan of his work in general). This is a great musical substitute. I always felt Goldeneye was really a traditional Bond film, that mysteriously lacked the traditional Bond-esque score. Keep up the good work.

Thanks, I'm going to do a lot more extensive work. It's going to take a while with working, but thankfully my computer is a lot faster than it used to be, so editing isn't going to kill me.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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How about other Barry scores with a Bond-ish feel to create some character themes... like The Specialist

Does anyone even remember that movie anyway?
(I only remember that it was bad, but the music SOUNDED like a Bond flick)

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WheresBlackhawk said:

How about other Barry scores with a Bond-ish feel to create some character themes... like The Specialist

Does anyone even remember that movie anyway?
(I only remember that it was bad, but the music SOUNDED like a Bond flick)

I don't know if I've even seen that movie. I'll look into it.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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WheresBlackhawk said:

It's a Stallone flick.

You can hear soundtrack clips on amazon.

That will be perfect for Goldeneye. Thanks for the heads up!!!

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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For other soundtracks, try King Kong (76) Out of Africa, Peggy Sue Got Married, Black Hole.

In the past, I have taken the non-theme cues from Moonraker, Octopussy, and A View to a Kill, and broken them up removing and saving the sections with standard Barry like bond motifs and flourishes, and discarding anything that would would refer to the films main title or other character's themes.  Then I would edit and mix the saved Bond bits into the cues from King Kong (76) Out of Africa, Peggy Sue Got Married, Black Hole. 

This would leave me with new original bond cues by John Barry.

Remember that you just need to remove all the motifs and flourishes that would identify what movie the cue is from by the Main title or character themes.

Just keep the generic bits, and jumble them together adding the Bond theme into the mix when required...

Hope that made sense .  

 

Edit: you might also want to use some sections and bits from cues on the "The Deep" and "Dances With Wolves" soundtracks for darker sections of the film.  

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^That sounds cool.

Do you have any samples posted?

I'd like to see/hear how they turned out.

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I haven't abandoned this project guys. I'm waiting for the blu ray LOL.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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Updated!

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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Have you seen the "Never Say McClory Again" edit? It's a good place to look for ideas; based on the fact that you said you're not simply putting in the Thunderball intro I'm guessing you have.


Am I the only person who wasn't too impressed with the NSNA blu screens I've seen? The skintones are so orange sometimes. Then again, maybe it's just how it was filmed; the '80s could get really weird sometimes.

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EyeShotFirst said:

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Excellent. Most excellent. The fan edit bkev mentions definitely is worth checking out for ideas. Blofeld's Cat made his edit like a tribute to the series, using music from each movie.

Personally, I'd love to see Connery act to this theme (yes, I know it's associated with another bond but its classic Barry).

Good luck on this!

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The Aluminum Falcon said:

EyeShotFirst said:

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Excellent. Most excellent. The fan edit bkev mentions definitely is worth checking out for ideas. Blofeld's Cat made his edit like a tribute to the series, using music from each movie.

Personally, I'd love to see Connery act to this theme (yes, I know it's associated with another bond but its classic Barry).

Good luck on this!

You're gonna like this edit then. All the music is going to be from Dr. No to Diamonds are Forever.

This Bond while set in the 80's, isn't going to be an 80's movie. this is Connery Bond. The music will bring it where it belongs.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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Any idea what you'll use for the the title song? Is it possible to mix and rearrange the textless title sequences from the UE DVD's together to make a new sequence?

Damn shame they dropped those from the Blu Rays.

I didn't even know NSNA was out of print already, and commanding bloated prices on Ebay. :(

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SilverWook said:

Any idea what you'll use for the the title song? Is it possible to mix and rearrange the textless title sequences from the UE DVD's together to make a new sequence?

Damn shame they dropped those from the Blu Rays.

I didn't even know NSNA was out of print already, and commanding bloated prices on Ebay. :(

I've got the title song already planned out. My plan is to create an all new title sequence. It won't be easy, but After Effects should help me some.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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Looking forward to seeing what you come up with.

If there was only a way to put the real M, Q, and Miss Moneypenny into the movie. ;)

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SilverWook said:

Looking forward to seeing what you come up with.

If there was only a way to put the real M, Q, and Miss Moneypenny into the movie. ;)

That's the one sad thing about it. Even finding a way to get the aston martin in the film would be cool.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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There's a deleted scene from TWINE that has the DB5 driving to the funeral after the credits.  You could use it as an alternate Shrublands arrival scene perhaps.

 

 

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Stumbled across a French comedy from 1975 in which Bernard Lee and Lois Maxwell appear in familiar roles. How EON didn't have a fit over this I can't imagine! Even Operation Kid Brother didn't lift the Bond themes.

http://youtu.be/gwxQ4sQQHG0

They appear in the first ten minutes, so you don't have to watch the whole thing if you don't want to. ;)

This footage might be useful for some other 007 fanedit in the future?

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Wow.

 

I've heard about that film but I never realized how unsubtle it truly was.  It must have been given the permission of EON to be done, as it even has the theme playing at one point.  Too bad its in French as it would probably be interesting to watch to just see how off the wall it is, but I don't think I can watch a dub for that long.

I did like their design of the gunbarrel, however. 

 

 

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OperationBedlam said:

There's a deleted scene from TWINE that has the DB5 driving to the funeral after the credits.  You could use it as an alternate Shrublands arrival scene perhaps.

 

 

There were too many people there, but....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcFS3vOvCQI&hd=1

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Oh yeah, forgot about that bit.  Though that new video definitely shows promise.

 

 

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So basically this edit is going to be an AVCHD. Sorry, I can't do blu ray. Most likely I'll be doing this in 720p. If I had a more capable computer, I'd go 1080.

I'm debating on gritting it up and aging the look and sound of the film. Not a full blown grindhouse, but a little tarnish.

I'm in the middle of a big move, so I haven't gotten much time, but I have done some work to it.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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Thanks for the update. By going Grindhouse with it, are you trying to make it not look like a 1983 film?

Is the credit sequence taking form yet? Watching the other Bonds has given me an idea or two...

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