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No, I got new earbuds for Christmas, so I have been able to listen to both channels now. However, I haven't listened to any of your music with proper speakers.

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Well I don't even remember what the version of alteration that's on soundcloud sounds like anymore, it's been totally redone from scratch.  I'll update it on soundcloud one of these days... 

I just listened to the one on soundcloud.  I don't know what I can really say, it sounds so completely different, production wise.  The guitars have FAR less distortion, and the keyboards aren't as loud. It's definitely more restrained, less busy, and maybe a tad less aggressive, which actually disappoints me as it wasn't on purpose and I'd forgotten how much kick the old one had til I just listened to it. Not that the new one isn't still more extreme than what the average person listens to.  I'll upload the new one to youtube.

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Possessed said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Jk6PuDsJr4

I think it's waaaay better.  It's alot clearer, more refined, you can hear the different parts more distinctly, and it just sounds alot less naseating.  :)

 I listened to your updated version and the original back to back. I think yours has more depth and I like its nice high, clear notes which are more toned down in the original. However, when that drumstick is hammering at various points in the song, yours sticks out too much. In the original it blends better with the rest of the song and is less jarring.

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Well I wanted the drums to pop a little more in mine than in theirs, but are you talking about the blast beats?  Because I agree now that I'm listening for it and perhaps I just need to lower the drum tracks volume in that particular section.

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Thank you for the comments.  About it having more depth, I think that is because I have to have fuller sounding instruments than they do because I don't have vocals so I have to find other ways to fill out the sound.  I plan on getting vocals, either by learning to sing (I'll want normal singing, even when covering Kalmah and other bands that use growling/screaming) or finding a vocalist.  Then it will just sound obnoxiously full since I'll have already mixed them as instrumentals and will probably just dub vocals over them, maybe cutting some frequencies in the top shelf and then putting the vocals in that slot.

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New song.  That's the Way.

A completely different direction and genre of music that I've never covered before.  It's a modern pop/rock cover of the Led Zeppelin song "That's the Way".  This isn't a permanent change of style, just something I felt I had to get out of my system.  Please enjoy.

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Well I wanted the drums to pop a little more in mine than in theirs, but are you talking about the blast beats?  Because I agree now that I'm listening for it and perhaps I just need to lower the drum tracks volume in that particular section.

 They sound a lot better in the latest mix, by the way (the one you sent to my dad). Not so jarring anymore.

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RicOlie_2 said:

Possessed said:

Well I wanted the drums to pop a little more in mine than in theirs, but are you talking about the blast beats?  Because I agree now that I'm listening for it and perhaps I just need to lower the drum tracks volume in that particular section.

 (the one you sent to my dad).

 Do what in a cup?

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Otherwise known as Post Praetorian...I assume it was you who sent them to him. ;)

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Any opinions on the one I just uploaded?  It's an entirely different beast.  More of a domesticated housecat really.

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It's different, but I like it. It felt like was missing bass though. It seemed rather high pitched most of the way through, but then again, I was listening to it with earbuds. I've also never heard the original, so if it was intentionally in the higher range, then that's not necessarily a bad thing.

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The earbuds are probably the culprit.  Actually the original had no bass at all, or drums.  I wrote both of those parts.  The original is pretty much just an acoustic guitar and a laid back echoey electric with singing.

Also keep in mind that soundcloud destroys the sound quality.  The one on my computer sounds a thousand times better.

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I was playing some of your music over a fairly reasonable sound system and it caught the attention of someone who asked to use one of your tracks (Alteration) for a dance competition. Before I pass on the audio file I wanted to find out if this was acceptable to you...?

I was once…but now I’m not… Further: zyzzogeton

“It wasn’t the flood that destroyed the pantry…”

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Well, personally I'm okay with it, except that I didn't write that song or any of the songs on the album.  They are all covers, and since I never intended to sell or make any money off of them, even though I'm the one performing the tracks on the recordings I don't have the rights to the compositions themselves.  It's written by the band Kalmah.  As long as this competition is not commercial in nature and no profits are to be made I don't see why not, but just be careful.  I wouldn't want us to land in hot water over something I did for pure enjoyment with no monetary intentions in mind.  Not that this is very likely to happen or anything, just being paranoid.

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My only requirement is that you capture at least a short video of the competition where the song is playing so that I can show my family.  :)

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I have passed on your conditions to the one who requested this of me and will let you know the details when I hear back...I am not aware of what kind of performance is involved nor the age-range of the performers so we shall see...!

I was once…but now I’m not… Further: zyzzogeton

“It wasn’t the flood that destroyed the pantry…”

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By the way Praetor, do you want my second album?  Admittedly it isn't as good as my first, but it's not horrible.  :)  The guitar playing is better and more "professional", but it just doesn't sound as inspired or energetic as the first one did.  Due to this reason I'm significantly changing song styles for my third.  But in the meantime my second is done if you'd like it.


I can't even seem to get anybody else besides you or your son to give it a try.  :)

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By the way Praetor, do you want my second album?  Admittedly it isn't as good as my first, but it's not horrible.  :)  The guitar playing is better and more "professional", but it just doesn't sound as inspired or energetic as the first one did.

What is this!? Musicians aren't allowed to self-deprecate! You have to be conceited and narcissistic, goddammit! 

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Just being honest.  At least I did say it sounded more professional, lol.

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By the way, in case you guys are wondering, this is the song that Ric and Praetor keep saying they like so much.  :) 

But if you don't like it don't worry, I plan on making some stuff that's far more mellow in the future, both sonically and musically.  (It is quite forceful in both sound quality and musicality)

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I am strongly considering giving up music for good after I make 2 more CD's.  I am sick to death of working for hours and hours on the mixes of this stuff and then having to beg people to listen to it, and nobody (hardly) is listening to it.  Almost all the feedback I've gotten from the people that have listened to it has been positive, yet even with this information that "everybody that's listened to it has liked it" I just can't get people to listen to it.  Nobody wants to hear.  Not that I blame anybody or take it personally, but it's just extremely discouraging that after I work for hours making the arrangements then recording (most of my songs have 4 guitar parts and a bass part, whether the original song had all this or not) and nobody wants to take 3 minutes to listen to it.  And again, I don't take that personally, but it's very discouraging all the same.

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If you really love making music that shouldn't discourage you.

I listened to a bit of one of your tracks and it was well done, but it's not at all the type of stuff I listen to, so that was it for me. Everyone has different tastes, and I'm sure a lot of people you've presented your stuff to probably just aren't into that type of music. It's an incredibly subjective medium, and even if you can appreciate someone with good musical talents, that doesn't mean you want to listen to them. Don't take it personally.

The other possibility is that you're an amateur musician and people in general are uninterested in amateur musicians because there are so many. Again, the talent doesn't matter. People like listening to people that are popular. Again, don't take it personally.

At the end of the day, you just have to ask yourself, who am I making this music for? If you just want to be popular and have other people like you, then I understand why you would feel compelled to give up. Even if you're not that shallow I know how much it can hurt to be unappreciated when appreciation is really warranted.

But really, I have friends who make metal music and from my experience most people I know who make music just really love making music. I'm sure you do to. So you do you man.