twooffour said:
sonnyboo said:
twooffour said:
Having that all said, don't you think you're acting a bit too defensive for a dude who started his own thread about 10 reasons why chocolate is better than vanilla ice cream? :D
No. I think you are projecting your opinion of what I'm writing as being defensive.
I do not think you or anyone else is 'wrong' for liking JEDI or disagreeing with my opinions. I simply have my opinions that are entirely subjective, as you do yours. Your opinion is in no way objective or absolute for anyone other than yourself and those who share your point of view.
Well, you posted a list of 10 arguments why ROTJ was supposed to suck, and didn't like the mere fact that someone challenged that list.
That's the very definition of defensive.
"Well stand by your opinion then, I doubt you can make any solid case for it."
"I was never trying to convince you or anyone else to change their minds. That was never my intention. I merely expressed my opinions, as they are."
You start out the thread by... making a case, but as soon as that case is challenged, you back off and insist on how you're not obliged to do any more of that.
Well, of course you're not, but then you have a weak case ;)
Did I ever say you expressed your opinions as they were not? ;)
I do not think you or anyone else is 'wrong' for liking JEDI or disagreeing with my opinions.
No one cares about that - you made a case yourself, and it was flawed by its arguments, so I think YOU'RE wrong for thinking that those 10 things make ROTJ the worst of them all (again, I'm not saying that the points themselves are all invalid).
Again a defensive reaction: "I don't claim your opinion to be wrong, so don't be attacking mine."
I simply have my opinions that are entirely subjective, as you do yours.
If they're entirely subjective, why don't you just post that you didn't like the movie?
As soon as you start making lists of arguments, you're moving out of the safe realm of "entirely subjective", because such arguments can be flawed, I hope you realize that?
ur opinion is in no way objective or absolute for anyone other than yourself and those who share your point of view.
And yet another defensive reaction - "it's just your opinion man, so leave mine alone, too".
Just because it isn't "absolute" doesn't mean it's not better backed up than yours, and when you cite flaws in ROTJ that supposedly make it worse than the prequels, while those exact flaws are even worse in the prequels (according to the parameters you yourself defined), then I smell a contradiction.
twooffour said:
sonnyboo said:
twooffour said:
Having that all said, don't you think you're acting a bit too defensive for a dude who started his own thread about 10 reasons why chocolate is better than vanilla ice cream? :D
No. I think you are projecting your opinion of what I'm writing as being defensive.
I do not think you or anyone else is 'wrong' for liking JEDI or disagreeing with my opinions. I simply have my opinions that are entirely subjective, as you do yours. Your opinion is in no way objective or absolute for anyone other than yourself and those who share your point of view.
Well, you posted a list of 10 arguments why ROTJ was supposed to suck, and didn't like the mere fact that someone challenged that list.
That's the very definition of defensive.
Can you please show anywhere I wrote I did not like what anyone else stated?
I made a list of MY top ten reasons RETURN OF THE JEDI sucks. I stated my top ten reasons. These reasons are subjective and any counter arguments appear to be equally valid and subjective. At no time did I say anything otherwise.
I never made arguments. I made subjective statements of opinions. Your the only one really making this out to be something other than that. You say no one cares that these are solely opinions, etc. but it's all in your mind. I'm not saying anything other than what I'm ACTUALLY writing, not what you are deluding.
You appear to be saying that my opinions are wrong. My subjective opinions are somehow not correct. Not different from yours, but objectively wrong. Unfortunately, that simply is not true and we arrive at an impasse. I'm willing to say that the world can have all kinds of opinions, and you seem to believe yours are better than everyone else's and you are right.
You have failed to make a good actual argument or "win" because there was nothing to win. Honestly, you just seem like a frustrated high school debate drop out. You are out to win an "argument" that exists solely in your imagination.
Peace.