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Manga and Anime Fans
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It's not thaty I dislike anime, just that I don't like anime for the sake of it being anime. Full Metal Alchemist is good.
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Originally Posted by Gregoric (ultimate-guitar.com)bras are barriers which protect boobs from men, therefore bras are evil...
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For anime, GAINAX is the best. Neon Genesis Evangelion are three words that have re-defined how anime is done, some sort of a "Citizen Kane" of animation. Every single other work by Gainax, since the DAICON days, is a brilliant work of art, perfect to every detail - maybe Otaku no Video suffers a bit from a broken pace due to the live action segments and is a bit too obscure for people not familiar with anime, who will not get all the jokes, but still near perfect. Cowboy Bebop is also a wonderful masterpiece, down to every single episode, and the complex relations between characters and the futuristic world that surrounds them. Naruto was a good adition to the anime world for the past years, but has suffered a bit with the slow pace required for manga adaptations to the tv screen, and has gone from exciting and fun to dull and silly. Dragonball (and DBZ) has suffered from this too (aka "drag on" ball), but it was the anime responsiblt for the big break over the western market, although a bit too late - it was only really popular after it had ended in Japan and faded away. I still remember the first time I saw the final episode for the Cell saga (back in 1993, briefly after aired in Japan) and I was in awe, I became an anime fan ever since. Haibane Renmei is also an anime that I've enjoyed, beautifully animated, scored and written, and very mysterious. Also, I enjoy old anime, such as Yamato and Future Boy Conan, this last one a masterpiece of the 70s, sadly forgotten. As for anime films, my favorites are Hotaru no Haka (Grave of the Fireflies), Barefoot Gen, Nadia of the Valley of the Winds (the JAPANESE version, not the butchered western one), and of course, Akira.
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The best part was cute girls and no guys.
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C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
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There is no lingerie in space…
C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
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Originally Posted by Gregoric (ultimate-guitar.com)bras are barriers which protect boobs from men, therefore bras are evil...
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
I think that's part of why I have trouble getting into anime. A lot of it is directly adapted from the manga, so the plots drag on and on. Dragon Ball Z is one of the worst, especially in the Frieza saga. (This is actually mostly the publisher's fault. Akira Toriyama had intended Frieza to be the last sory arc, so when they were animating it, they dragged it on and on so it would feel bigger and more epic, and keep the show--and hence flow of advertising money--coming for longer. But then the publisher demanded more manga from Toriyama, so he went back and extended it for two more sagas.)
I think that's part of why I have trouble getting into anime. A lot of it is directly adapted from the manga, so the plots drag on and on. Dragon Ball Z is one of the worst, especially in the Frieza saga. (This is actually mostly the publisher's fault. Akira Toriyama had intended Frieza to be the last sory arc, so when they were animating it, they dragged it on and on so it would feel bigger and more epic, and keep the show--and hence flow of advertising money--coming for longer. But then the publisher demanded more manga from Toriyama, so he went back and extended it for two more sagas.)
Incorrect. Toriyama did intend to end Dragonball on the Freeza saga, but the publisher demanded for more. By the time the Freeza saga was aired on TV, the Androids/Cell saga was being published, so they knew what was ahead of them. The reason for draging the story for so long is the pace of the publication and the anime. You had 28 pages of manga and 90 minutes of anime in a month. You do the math. All anime adapted from a on-going manga suffers from this, because the producers try to keep up with the same pace as the manga - which is why I prefer anime created directly for the screen, like Neon Genesis Evangelion, Cowboy Bebop and Haibane Renmei. (*sigh* yes there ARE manga for those anime, but it was created later - every manga adapted from an anime sucks)
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i couldn't agree more.
Originally Posted by Gregoric (ultimate-guitar.com)bras are barriers which protect boobs from men, therefore bras are evil...
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The thing about filler is that, once you get to a certain point, you can tell that Toriyama is actually leaving things vague and unexplained on purpose so that Toei will have something to do. And that's usually where the best filler comes in, but it's also generally where the manga falls short. It's where Toei pulls their own stuff like extended flashbacks of scenes that occurred a month ago and trying to force extensions where they don't fit that the manga really shines, and the anime starts to lag.
There is no lingerie in space…
C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
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Made for IE Forum's Episode III theme month - May 2005.
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
Incorrect. Toriyama did intend to end Dragonball on the Freeza saga, but the publisher demanded for more. By the time the Freeza saga was aired on TV, the Androids/Cell saga was being published, so they knew what was ahead of them. The reason for draging the story for so long is the pace of the publication and the anime. You had 28 pages of manga and 90 minutes of anime in a month. You do the math. All anime adapted from a on-going manga suffers from this, because the producers try to keep up with the same pace as the manga - which is why I prefer anime created directly for the screen, like Neon Genesis Evangelion, Cowboy Bebop and Haibane Renmei. (*sigh* yes there ARE manga for those anime, but it was created later - every manga adapted from an anime sucks)
Incorrect. Toriyama did intend to end Dragonball on the Freeza saga, but the publisher demanded for more. By the time the Freeza saga was aired on TV, the Androids/Cell saga was being published, so they knew what was ahead of them. The reason for draging the story for so long is the pace of the publication and the anime. You had 28 pages of manga and 90 minutes of anime in a month. You do the math. All anime adapted from a on-going manga suffers from this, because the producers try to keep up with the same pace as the manga - which is why I prefer anime created directly for the screen, like Neon Genesis Evangelion, Cowboy Bebop and Haibane Renmei. (*sigh* yes there ARE manga for those anime, but it was created later - every manga adapted from an anime sucks)
Yeah, I knew it was something like that.
In reguards to some of the filler, some of the anime filler was quite good, like the Garlic Jr. Saga, but other filler just... wasn't. The Captain Ginyu stealing Bulma's body for one. How the heck does she build a translator that can change Namekian frog speech into the universal language everyone seems to speak?
And it also created some plot holes, like the one where the moon projected from Goku's old ship he came to Earth on made Gohan transform despite the fact it was only a Hologram and therefore incapable of emmiting Brute Rays.
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C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
The Garlic Jr. saga?! Ugh, blech, no! Based on a crappy movie that can barely be squeezed into the timeline and still have continuity issues. But to each his own. I only liked it because Maron was hot. I was referring more to most of the Saiya-jin saga filler (aside from the crappy one you mentioned) like Yamucha being a baseball player, Goku falling to Hell (I mean, come on, he was warned about falling to hell in the manga... where was the payoff?! Nowhere!), and the Pendulum Room episode. Later on, the Great Saiyaman filler are some of my favorite episodes. I wish the manga had carried it farther. It freshened the series so much.
I liked it because someone other than Goku was the big hero for a change. Even in the cell saga, Goku got himself blown up to give Gohan a chance to win.
Originally posted by: dudius
i agree with Death Chaltab, some stuff does draw on and on because theyre very dependant on the manga.
The Garlic Jr. saga?! Ugh, blech, no! Based on a crappy movie that can barely be squeezed into the timeline and still have continuity issues. But to each his own. I only liked it because Maron was hot. I was referring more to most of the Saiya-jin saga filler (aside from the crappy one you mentioned) like Yamucha being a baseball player, Goku falling to Hell (I mean, come on, he was warned about falling to hell in the manga... where was the payoff?! Nowhere!), and the Pendulum Room episode. Later on, the Great Saiyaman filler are some of my favorite episodes. I wish the manga had carried it farther. It freshened the series so much.
I liked it because someone other than Goku was the big hero for a change. Even in the cell saga, Goku got himself blown up to give Gohan a chance to win.
Originally posted by: dudius
i agree with Death Chaltab, some stuff does draw on and on because theyre very dependant on the manga.
My name is not Death Chaltab.
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Here are some of the series I collect:
Death Note
Number One in my book right now. It's so fast-paced and thrilling, even if there isn't a lot of action in it. If you haven't read it, go pick up a copy of volume one, you'll be hooked.
Dragon Ball and DBZ
Originally all called Dragon Ball. Great series, they just came out with the final volume of Z. (I have all of them.) It's much better than the long and drawn out anime, which I can't stand dubbed.
One Piece:
Though repetitive, its great action that keeps you on the edge of your seat. It has good morals too about dreams and overcoming obstacles. MUCH better than the crappy anime.
I'd reccomend all of those series, they're really really good, and all of them better than anime counterparts. (Granted, Death Note's anime doesn't premier until December.)
You can also access the entire Horriffic Violence Theater Series from my Channel Page.
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Originally posted by: Darth_Evil
I LOVE Manga. It's much better than the crap Americna comic-book artists produce.
I LOVE Manga. It's much better than the crap Americna comic-book artists produce.
*Ahem* I beg to differ, but you're entitled to your extremely nonesensical opinion.
Meanwhile, I'll be enjoying the amazingness of Darwyn Cooke:
Wonder Woman celebrates.
The Heroes Gather
Fun with Hal and Carrol
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Originally posted by: Darth_Evil
I like that they usually produce it unscensored here in America, unlike Anime.
Dragon Ball and DBZ
Originally all called Dragon Ball. Great series, they just came out with the final volume of Z. (I have all of them.) It's much better than the long and drawn out anime, which I can't stand dubbed.
I like that they usually produce it unscensored here in America, unlike Anime.
Dragon Ball and DBZ
Originally all called Dragon Ball. Great series, they just came out with the final volume of Z. (I have all of them.) It's much better than the long and drawn out anime, which I can't stand dubbed.
Too bad that the DB series is not one of those that is uncensored. The "DB" part, for the most part was uncensored, but they actually censored out Popo's lips, which I find ridiculous, because not even DragonBall Z, when it was under Saban's syndication and crazy censorship rules, required them to do that. The "DBZ" quality has really fallen as of late. They went along with FUNimation and censored Mr. Satan's name to Hercule, #16's Hell's Flash to Inferno Blast (which I don't mind too much because it's pretty close), all nudity from day one has been censored out (I think Gohan not having anything down there at all is even freakier than seeing his genitals!), and they refused to ever use the term Majin or Madoshi in the Buu saga, instead calling him Djinn. It just makes those M scripts all over the characters' foreheads and clothing make absolutely no sense. But, yeah, it's much better than the dub of the anime, so I've collected all of them so far except for volumes 41 and 42. It kind of annoys me that they split them up into two series, but I can understand why they did, and it helped get everything finished faster, so I'm not too upset.
FUNimation's dubs just sucked! I've heard a lot of their newer work is much better, but I don't care. I can never respect them as a legitimate dubbing company since, even when they were releasing anime that was much better, they were still butchering the DragonBall series. DragonBall was the best of the three by far since the original music was in there, but the translation was still very, very loose. Z and GT (what little I saw of GT since I don't really care... it's non canon) were just abominations to dubbing and just to television in general. But at least DragonBall pronounced Kamehameha correctly at least once, so I give them credit for that!
There is no lingerie in space…
C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
*Ahem* I beg to differ, but you're entitled to your extremely nonesensical opinion.
Originally posted by: Darth_Evil
I LOVE Manga. It's much better than the crap Americna comic-book artists produce.
I LOVE Manga. It's much better than the crap Americna comic-book artists produce.
*Ahem* I beg to differ, but you're entitled to your extremely nonesensical opinion.
I used to read north american comics until the mid 90s, when I started to read manga. I have no intention of buying another "X-Men" ever again.