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MagnoliaFan Edits: Ep I "Balance Of The Force", and Ep II "The Clone War" (Released) — Page 4

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MagnoliaFan has changed his icon to match hime?
I am honored.

Both films are full of small, minor cuts and trims in scenes and dialogue that really improve the films.

Something I really liked is that Episode II now has a decent running time. I hated that it was almost two and a half hours. I used to almost fall asleep watching it before. Now the film is much more fast paced and tighter.

I anxiously await MagnoliaFan's edit of Episode III, once the DVD comes out. It won't be for a long while I suppose, but it'll be worth it.
Any idea about what you're going to call it?
"The Creeping Fear"? lol
How about "Fall of the Jedi" or something. I don't knowl

My stance on revising fan edits.

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This is really dumb but has anyone mentioned the occasional spelling mistake?

I believe aggravate is spelled wrong in BOTF, and one other small error.

Just a very small nitpick the rest is great.
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At last I got "Balance" to work and boy does this movie improve. BINKS does not suck! Loyd does not suck! I could go on forever listing the improvements but theres 1 thing wich really bothered me. The new alien "voices", since I speak bot spanish and german fluently. I just cant focus on the new (brilliant) dialogues while I get to hear the old ones very clearly in a variety of languages. That would be the ONE thing to improve for a later version.
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magnolia...

the conversation between anakin and qui-gon *is* really important. and i'm glad you didn't cut it. you're right.

i just finished watching the clone war (attack of the clones magnoliafan style). i REALLY REALLY like the added scenes of padme's family. it made her seem human. i was sorry to see the shot of jango fett using two blasters cut. i understand why you did it, but i always thought it was pretty bad ass. and i was also sorry to see obi-won's girl joke was cut. again, i understand.. but it was a bit of humor that GL didn't totally barf all over. unlike the "i'm quite beside myself" line, which did make the cut (though i'd gladly give you my first born in thanks for cutting "oh this is such a drag." thank you. endlessly.

and for one, i LOVE the yellow sabre. bravo.

and the sound bite at the end, after the credits.
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I don't actually remember cutting a Jango scene with two blasters...
Where was that again?

I know someone above mentioned me shuffling Clone Trooper shots somewhere, which is another change I don't recall.

FYI, I intended to keep the girl line originally, but the head movements on Obi-Wan don't match between shots. It causes a huge jump, like Han's dodge when Greedo shoots first.

Also, the yellow saber is going to look MUCH better in the near future.

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"I don't actually remember cutting a Jango scene with two blasters...
Where was that again?"

i thought it was during the fight between obi-won and jango... i thought so anyway... maybe i either missed it or am just making shit up...


"FYI, I intended to keep the girl line originally, but the head movements on Obi-Wan don't match between shots. It causes a huge jump, like Han's dodge when Greedo shoots first."

that's a shame, but it doesn't take away from the scene if it's not there. just adds a bit of a chuckle.


oh and let me say again that i really like the angle you took on the trade federation. very fascist and just evil. i love how brazen they are.. "go and kill his children." my jaw dropped. well done.


"Also, the yellow saber is going to look MUCH better in the near future."

so are you going to keep working on these forever? like a super-extra-special edition of Episode II: The Clone War? sounds like someone else we know

please let us know when you're ready to put out a final release on either of them. i'm very interested in your work. i only with i had the ability to do this.



this is just FUN.
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Yesterday, a few of my friends and I had an uber-nerd viewing of the saga, consisting of MF's re-edits and the official OT DVDs. I'd mentioned the re-edits to them, so they were quite anxious to see these new and improves prequels; they were not disappointed (some of them even want to show their parents!). They literally applauded the opening scroll and BALANCE OF THE FORCE. When it was over, we were all in agreement that we can't wait for RotS to come out so MF could finish tweaking it and thus the OT. Just more evidence these are the best things to happen in Star Wars fandom since Shadows of the Empire!
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But, but, Shadows sucked so hard, while Mag's work kicks serious ass. I know, to each their own, I just didn't care for the Shadows of the Empire thing at all. I find Steve Perry to be a mediocre author at best, The game was alright, but nothing amazingly special, the new characters and the story line really did nothing for me. Psuedo Han Solo and his Psuedo Falcon just felt so forced, Xizor was lame and his whole subplot with Vader was weak. I did like the score however. Anyway, I'm rambling now, forgive me. Yay Magnolia edits!

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I really like the yellow sabre in TCW - the way it appears as almost flame-like is captivating.

Was surprised that some of C3P0's 'comedic' lines made it to the final MFE cut - it does seem out of place amongst the events that have just taken place in the arena.

Magnolia - I look forward to your new TCW cut - is it just TCW that you are re-doing, or is it BOTF as well?

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Originally posted by: Pagz
But, but, Shadows sucked so hard, while Mag's work kicks serious ass. I know, to each their own, I just didn't care for the Shadows of the Empire thing at all. I find Steve Perry to be a mediocre author at best, The game was alright, but nothing amazingly special, the new characters and the story line really did nothing for me. Psuedo Han Solo and his Psuedo Falcon just felt so forced, Xizor was lame and his whole subplot with Vader was weak. I did like the score however. Anyway, I'm rambling now, forgive me. Yay Magnolia edits!
I agree on Dash Rendar and the Outrider, blatant xerox copies of Han and the Falcon, but other than that, I found Shadows excellent. And speaking of the score, you know MF's used some of it in BotF.

Originally posted by: oojason
I really like the yellow sabre in TCW - the way it appears as almost flame-like is captivating.

Was surprised that some of C3P0's 'comedic' lines made it to the final MFE cut - it does seem out of place amongst the events that have just taken place in the arena.

I find the 'flamesaber' VERY interesting since early rumors of AotC said Dooku would wield a similar weapon. Obviously, that didn't pan out, which I agreed with. Maul's double-bladed saber is one thing, but multi-colored blades? What's next, a seven bladed rainbow-saber?

As for the droids, yes, leave them on Padme's ship.
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Have there been revisions to Clone Wars? I have a copy, and was wondering if it was up to date.

Also, MagnoliaFan if I could make a suggestion, as I have recently stumbled across it. There is a piece of dialogue in the trailer for AOTC in which Anakin says "I've heard this lesson before" and Obi-Wan quips "But you haven't learned anything, Anakin!" It fits right into the scene before they enter the bar in Coruscant. I've find it odd, because it helps further the story that Obi Wan doesn't think Anakin is ready to be a Jedi. I do not remember off hand if this was part of your storyline or not, but it is easily added back into the film. I've perfected the audio, having to lay over some sound effects to hide some music, but it works well.

Anyways, if you are intereseted for future edits, give me a PM.
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I watched half of the phantom menace edit. I'm not sure if I like it though, because, and this isn't entirely magnoliafan's fault, there's no humor in the alien conversations that so permeates the OT. but to make things worse, the dialogue that's written in for the characters isn't well written and it is a bit immature. but nice effort, just find a better writer.
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MagFan, can you fix your crawls? Your edits are simply brillient, a bit of audio-sync problems, but they really are amazing.
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that's strange. i found the writing to be pretty good dialog. it didn't seem clunky or make me think "oh come on! no body would EVER say that!" the ideas were good and the dialog didn't seem out of wack. i didn't notice any synch problems either.
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MagnoliaFan - what are the timecodes for the chapters in your Balance edit? I want to recreate them faithfully using authored DVD Santa files in TMPGEnc DVD author.
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Originally posted by: adlai
I watched half of the phantom menace edit. I'm not sure if I like it though, because, and this isn't entirely magnoliafan's fault, there's no humor in the alien conversations that so permeates the OT. but to make things worse, the dialogue that's written in for the characters isn't well written and it is a bit immature. but nice effort, just find a better writer.

Can you elaborate on this? I found the altered dialogue quite excellent.
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I thought most of the dialogue was pretty good, but there were some areas where you simply changed around what the Nemoidians originally said. To be honest, I didn't have a huge problem with the Nemoidians, though I can see why their accent might be a troublesome spot for some people.

Jar Jar running away from the balls yelling "Oh Shit Oh Shit" is a little over the top as well as "What a dump".
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the "What a dump" thing was said as an aside. he's a rude character. not mean, but it wasn't said to be mean, it was just sort of said. kind of like thinking out loud.

the "oh shit oh shit" didn't bother me. i'd be saying the same thing. what does he say in the Lucasland version of it? i don't remember.
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Originally posted by: ChainsawAsh
MagnoliaFan - what are the timecodes for the chapters in your Balance edit? I want to recreate them faithfully using authored DVD Santa files in TMPGEnc DVD author.


Here is all the information I got using Chapter-X-tractor on the DVD. Good Luck

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Opening IFO file E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO OK.

Video:
Compression : MPEG-2
TV system : NTSC 525/60 Hz
Aspect ratio: 16:9
Display Mode: pan-scan & letterboxed
Source Res : 720x480
Letterboxed : no
Mode : Camera

Audio:
0. ??? (AC3 5ch, 0xBD 0x80)

SubPicture:
0. ??? (0xBD 0x20)

Program Chain(s):
Using PGC #0/1. Length: 01:57:06:36 in 23 cell(s).
000. VOB-ID: 01/CELL-ID: 01 - Len: 00:02:40:50 - TS: 00:00:00:00
001. VOB-ID: 01/CELL-ID: 02 - Len: 00:04:40:50 - TS: 00:02:40:50
002. VOB-ID: 01/CELL-ID: 03 - Len: 00:02:43:00 - TS: 00:07:21:00
003. VOB-ID: 01/CELL-ID: 04 - Len: 00:03:13:00 - TS: 00:10:04:00
004. VOB-ID: 01/CELL-ID: 05 - Len: 00:05:25:50 - TS: 00:13:17:00
005. VOB-ID: 01/CELL-ID: 06 - Len: 00:04:59:00 - TS: 00:18:42:50
006. VOB-ID: 01/CELL-ID: 07 - Len: 00:04:49:50 - TS: 00:23:41:50
007. VOB-ID: 01/CELL-ID: 08 - Len: 00:05:20:50 - TS: 00:28:31:00
008. VOB-ID: 01/CELL-ID: 09 - Len: 00:04:50:50 - TS: 00:33:51:50
009. VOB-ID: 01/CELL-ID: 10 - Len: 00:04:31:50 - TS: 00:38:42:00
010. VOB-ID: 01/CELL-ID: 11 - Len: 00:03:48:00 - TS: 00:43:13:50
011. VOB-ID: 01/CELL-ID: 12 - Len: 00:10:00:50 - TS: 00:47:01:50
012. VOB-ID: 01/CELL-ID: 13 - Len: 00:04:25:00 - TS: 00:57:02:00
013. VOB-ID: 01/CELL-ID: 14 - Len: 00:05:25:00 - TS: 01:01:27:00
014. VOB-ID: 01/CELL-ID: 15 - Len: 00:05:33:00 - TS: 01:06:52:00
015. VOB-ID: 01/CELL-ID: 16 - Len: 00:05:51:00 - TS: 01:12:25:00
016. VOB-ID: 01/CELL-ID: 17 - Len: 00:05:21:00 - TS: 01:18:16:00
017. VOB-ID: 01/CELL-ID: 18 - Len: 00:04:35:50 - TS: 01:23:37:00
018. VOB-ID: 01/CELL-ID: 19 - Len: 00:05:01:50 - TS: 01:28:12:50
019. VOB-ID: 01/CELL-ID: 20 - Len: 00:04:21:50 - TS: 01:33:14:00
020. VOB-ID: 01/CELL-ID: 21 - Len: 00:05:30:00 - TS: 01:37:35:50
021. VOB-ID: 01/CELL-ID: 22 - Len: 00:04:22:50 - TS: 01:43:05:50
022. VOB-ID: 01/CELL-ID: 23 - Len: 00:09:38:36 - TS: 01:47:28:00

Cells links :
000 -> 001 -> 002 -> 003 -> 004 -> 005 -> 006 -> 007 -> 008 -> 009 ->
010 -> 011 -> 012 -> 013 -> 014 -> 015 -> 016 -> 017 -> 018 -> 019 ->
020 -> 021 -> 022

Total film length : 01:57:06:36

Chapter 1 = 00:00:00:00
Chapter 2 = 00:02:40:50
Chapter 3 = 00:07:21:00
Chapter 4 = 00:10:04:00
Chapter 5 = 00:13:17:00
Chapter 6 = 00:18:42:50
Chapter 7 = 00:23:41:50
Chapter 8 = 00:28:31:00
Chapter 9 = 00:33:51:50
Chapter 10 = 00:38:42:00
Chapter 11 = 00:43:13:50
Chapter 12 = 00:47:01:50
Chapter 13 = 00:57:02:00
Chapter 14 = 01:01:27:00
Chapter 15 = 01:06:52:00
Chapter 16 = 01:12:25:00
Chapter 17 = 01:18:16:00
Chapter 18 = 01:23:37:00
Chapter 19 = 01:28:12:50
Chapter 20 = 01:33:14:00
Chapter 21 = 01:37:35:50
Chapter 22 = 01:43:05:50
Chapter 23 = 01:47:28:00
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Holy fuckin shit...

I mean thanks Ash...er...BadAsh...(stealing my name like that...)
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Originally posted by: ChainsawAsh
Holy fuckin shit...

I mean thanks Ash...er...BadAsh...(stealing my name like that...)


Sorry man... I have been BadAsh for as long as I can remember... or the early 90s... whatever comes first.?.
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Hey, no problem, I don't really care. As long as you aren't the exact same name as me...

I just did another DVD Santa convert of Balance, it's done and creating DVD data now, and I just realized - I did it at fullscreen, not widescreen! If it just turns out nonanamorphic I could care less, but....