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Luke's rope-throwing talents in EP4

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Ello m8's,

I might be going crazy here,... but I seem to remember seeing Luke throwing the rope across the chasm AND MISSING, before he threw it again and swung Leia over. Has somebody else noticed this... or is this something from a Star Wars dream? Could this be something that Lucas erased somewhere down the line?
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Yeah, but it's strange how many people seem to believe the same thing. I think I remembered it that way myself at one point in my life...

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Luke is actually missing at the first try in the novelization published in 1977
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I was certain I'd seen Luke miss his first attempt on ITV in the UK - though it would've been near on 15 years ago when I thought I saw it, and am no longer sure I may have seen something similar in a different sci-fi/adventure film, and just merged it into my SW viewing memoires...

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I certainly seemed to remember this too, but there's really no way to confirm it now. It does appear that Luke missing was not scripted. However, if you watch the sequence carefully (as it is now), it seems like it takes Luke forever to unreel the rope from his utility belt, and he is just about ready when there's a cut to the stormtroopers on the other side of the chasm, then when we cut back to Luke he is unreeling the rope again.
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I don't remember this scene, but I do remember Leia kissing Luke and missing on her first try in ESB.
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Originally posted by: Scruffy
I don't remember this scene, but I do remember Leia kissing Luke and missing on her first try in ESB.


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From the Star Wars novelization published in 1977 :

"They're coming through!" Luke groaned. The Princess turned carefully to stare across the gap. "This must be a single- unit bridge, with the controls only on the other side." Reaching up to the point at the panel holding the unreachable controls, Luke's hand caught on something at his waist. A frustrated glance downward revealed the cause¡ªand engendered a bit of practical insanity. The cable coiled tightly in small loops was thin and fragile seeming, but it was general military-issue line and would have supported Chewbacca's weight easily. It certainly ought to hold Leia and himself. Pulling the cable free of the waist catch, he gauged its length, matching it against the width of the abyss. This should span the distance with plenty to spare. "What now?" the Princess inquired curiously. Luke didn't reply. Instead, he removed a small but heavy power unit from the utility belt of his armor and tied one end of the cable around it. Making sure the wrapping was secure; he stepped as close to the edge of their uncertain perch as he dared. Whirling the weighted end of the cord in increasing circles, he let it arc across the gorge. It stuck an outcropping of cylindrical conduits on the other side and fell downward. With forced patience he pulled the loose line back in, then recoiled it for another try.
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Thanks for the input on this fellas. I knew there was something more to it than just a simple dream. I'm pretty sure that I saw this scene when Star Wars was broadcast on TV here in Iceland back around in the late eighties or so I think. This scene is so vividly planted in my mind and I hadn't even heard of, or read the novel back then. So now all that remains is to actually find that footage. I think I have this old recording of Star Wars from the TV somewhere, so I'm gonna check that out and see if I can see Luke missing with that rope of his. Wish me luck, cause that is gonna be one hard to find tape. Ain't even sure it still exists...
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I'm beginning to think that maybe I just have that memory from reading the book.

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C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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I never read the book, but it sounds familiar to even me.

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It seems so familiar to everyone because in nearly every movie, TV show or book that features the throwing of an item or the attempt to hook an item they miss the first time. It is just a common story element, so when thinking back about the incident we just presume it too was that way, then eventually convince ourselves it too be true later.

It never happened in Star Wars and has been debunked a heap of times (as it is definitely one of the most common Star Wars urban myths).

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Theres just as many people that swear they remember the rebel fleet crashing into the Death Star shield in ROTJ as well.
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I could have SWORN that the planet/city of Coruscant was mentoned somewhere before the PT made its debute. I don't think that it is said in the OT, but maybe in one of the books? I don't know. My best friend and I were talking about this and we both seemed to know a fair amount of it before episode I.

I know that in the ROTJ SE there is a scene where they show the city/planet partying, but even then I recall we seemed to know that, "yup, there is Coruscant."

Maybe the PT really has polluted my mind.
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IIRC, Coruscant was first mentioned in one of the Timothy Zhan books. I can't remember which one though.



Of course, I haven't actually READ any of the EU books, but that is for another time.

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Originally posted by: Invader Jenny
I could have SWORN that the planet/city of Coruscant was mentoned somewhere before the PT made its debute. I don't think that it is said in the OT, but maybe in one of the books? I don't know. My best friend and I were talking about this and we both seemed to know a fair amount of it before episode I.

I know that in the ROTJ SE there is a scene where they show the city/planet partying, but even then I recall we seemed to know that, "yup, there is Coruscant."

Maybe the PT really has polluted my mind.



Its in all the EU from 1991 onwards. Lucas got it from either Edgar Rice Burroughs or EE Smith, i can't remember which.
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I would have known if Coruscant had been mentioned in the original movies since that was all I was ever exposed to (over and over again) and never had any clue about how to pronounce it correctly when the word was first introduced to me.

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Originally posted by: Rebelscum
Thanks for the input on this fellas. I knew there was something more to it than just a simple dream. I'm pretty sure that I saw this scene when Star Wars was broadcast on TV here in Iceland back around in the late eighties or so I think. This scene is so vividly planted in my mind and I hadn't even heard of, or read the novel back then. So now all that remains is to actually find that footage. I think I have this old recording of Star Wars from the TV somewhere, so I'm gonna check that out and see if I can see Luke missing with that rope of his. Wish me luck, cause that is gonna be one hard to find tape. Ain't even sure it still exists...
If you (or anyone else) can come up with hard evidence of Luke missing the first try with his grappling hook (that is, actual footage rather than hearsay or a description of hazy memories), I'll give you a fine prize: an official vintage 1978 still photo from The Star Wars Holiday Special.

Hey, I'll even up the ante and throw in an official, vintage German guidebook for one of the Ewok movies that was shown theatrically over there.

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Originally posted by: zombie84
Theres just as many people that swear they remember the rebel fleet crashing into the Death Star shield in ROTJ as well.


I can distinctley imagine in my head an X-wing (or A-wing?) pulling sideways when the shield is found to be still up and not turnng fast enough and hitting the shield.

Was this in the novel (it's been 9 or so years since I read ROTJ) because I for sure remember me either seeing it at some point somewhere or imagining it like it happened in the movie while I was reading it. 5th grade doesn't seem so long ago suddenly.

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Originally posted by: JarHead413
Originally posted by: zombie84
Theres just as many people that swear they remember the rebel fleet crashing into the Death Star shield in ROTJ as well.


I can distinctley imagine in my head an X-wing (or A-wing?) pulling sideways when the shield is found to be still up and not turnng fast enough and hitting the shield.

Was this in the novel (it's been 9 or so years since I read ROTJ) because I for sure remember me either seeing it at some point somewhere or imagining it like it happened in the movie while I was reading it. 5th grade doesn't seem so long ago suddenly.


That did happen in Independence Day. Perhaps someone is getting their sci-fi movies confused?

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That is a very good possibility.
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Several fighters do crash into the Death Star shield in the RotJ novelisation. I actually read that before I saw the movie, and remember wondering why nobody crashed when I saw it.

As for Coruscant, it is first mentioned in the book Heir to the Empire by Timothy Zahn. At the time I always thought he'd invented it and not Lucas (his description of it is somewhat different than it appears in the prequels, also, as is Kashyyyk). That is from 1991, so of course many people already knew about it when the SE came around. Gah, I love the Thrawn trilogy--it's more 'canon' to me than the prequels ever have been.
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I've been told to read the Thrawn trilogy. In general I always shied away from anything related to Star Wars that strayed from the films.

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Yeah, same here. Everything in the EU reeks of "fan-fiction" no mater how well writen they may be. I did read the first book of the X-Wing series and it was okay because it had nothing to do with the main characters, but it still felt forced and a little out of place with the whole Star Wars universe.

Star Wars books have an aura about them that makes them seem more like "Star Trek" than Star Wars. And no sir, I don't like it.

(though I am a fan of Star Trek, but I like to keep my Stars separate.)
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