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Legality, fan-edits, and more. Legality, fan-edits, and repercussions

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I’ll be honest; the list of fan-edits out there-Harmy, the Apocalypse Now Rough Cut, it’s an endless list-and stuff I’d like to watch fansubbed, etc.-Sentai, fanslatation games, and beyond-is limitless. I hear all the time from every third person on the Internet about this kind of stuff, but live in fear of any kind of legal repercussions or of one day having a knock on the door to have someone come tell me that orange really is the new black, and I ain’t getting Nina Rausch as a cellmate. My brother, currently studying to be an Internet intellectual property lawyer, even recently had an acquaintance get into serious trouble for some BitTorrent issues. Where does all of this stuff fall? I mean this seriously? I own Star Wars on VHS. I used to have the DVD. But apparently the “backup copy” stuff is a load of bunk. I bend over backwards to try to do everything I possibly can through the proper channels, down to buying used stuff on eBay when a bootleg would be infinitely cheaper to having a region-free DVD player. I live in genuine fear of so much as watching episodes of something on YouTube, but with the recent Net Neutrality stuff, I’ve become more concerned than ever. Is there anything black and white here, or is it all grey?

“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”

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It’s all grey, but no one has been targetted for it. As for watching episodes of stuff on Youtube, that isn’t even illegal. It’s probably illegal for it to be on there, but it isn’t illegal to use the site.

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Since there are no files hosted on this site there is no issues with people discussing such things or projects they might be working on or have seen. What you might or might not collect for your own personal viewing habits is only your business.

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As far as I know there have only been a couple legal kerfuffles with fan edits, and they’ve been sites that hosted them and nothing more than cease and desists.

As for downloading and watching a fan edit? As far as I know no one has ever gotten in trouble for that and I doubt anyone ever will, honestly (barring some drastic changes).

The people who get in real trouble for this sort of thing are just the people who rip movies (or worse - leak) and just upload them as is on the internet in large numbers. Off the top of my head though, in terms of the people downloading the stuff, I don’t know if anyone’s ever been punished worse than a fine (and again, this is in regards to plain old piracy).

Bottom line: don’t worry. You’ll be perfectly fine.

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The only time I can recall someone getting into trouble for producing a fan edit was Selutron who was working on an edit of Superman II, it was an incredibly ambitious edit as far as fanedits go too. Even Warner Bros were impressed by what he was doing, but for whatever reason he was ordered to stop production of it, maybe it was because he was always talking shit about the Donner Cut lol. Joking aside, I think the most logical explanation was his work was gaining a lot of attention across the web to the point Warners were worried about the possibilities of the fan cut surfacing and doing the rounds on the black market, I heard something like that happened to another guy who was working on some called “Superman II: The Green Cut”.

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Earl said:

The only time I can recall someone getting into trouble for producing a fan edit was Selutron who was working on an edit of Superman II, it was an incredibly ambitious edit as far as fanedits go too. Even Warner Bros were impressed by what he was doing, but for whatever reason he was ordered to stop production of it, maybe it was because he was always talking shit about the Donner Cut lol. Joking aside, I think the most logical explanation was his work was gaining a lot of attention across the web to the point Warners were worried about the possibilities of the fan cut surfacing and doing the rounds on the black market, I heard something like that happened to another guy who was working on some called “Superman II: The Green Cut”.

Any idea if they were sent an actual cease and desist letter? Warner’s would have to know who they really are. Of course, an ominous letter from a major studio threatening legal action would be intimidation enough.

The long worked on restoration of the tv cut of Superman went completely off the grid, after some dotty member of a Superman forum decided to tell Warner’s about it’s existence. IIRC, that was out of caution more than any legal rumblings though.

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Has anyone ever seen the “Green Cut”? Did it ever get finished?

“Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd.”
― Bertrand Russell, Unpopular Essays

“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”

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SilverWook said:

The long worked on restoration of the tv cut of Superman went completely off the grid, after some dotty member of a Superman forum decided to tell Warner’s about it’s existence.

Why did they feel the need to do that?

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Who really knows? Every forum has it’s resident looney. 😉

Where were you in '77?

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At least one. There may be more. 😉

Where were you in '77?

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FanEdit.org has been around for a long time, and has always been very clear about warding off piracy. With my own projects, I’ve felt comfortable featuring my real name in the edit’s credits, along with my voice as commentary in a separate audio track. I always run the anti-piracy warning at the front of the movie, hard-encoded into the file itself, as well as repeated on any text or descriptions that come along with it. Given the track record FanEdit.org has had so far, and relative popularity as a hub for this sort of thing, I think as long as you respect the rules and maintain a consistent position against any of the obvious things that would make copyright holders angry, you’ll be fine.
And, if you are just talking about downloading and watching fan edits, you’ll be fine anyway.

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Don’t we have a couple of threads on this topic already?

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Bingowings said:

Don’t we have a couple of threads on this topic already?

Got me. The search function here doesn’t work very well, the whole forum setup is wonky.

Now, I still have to use my laptop since I don’t want do any of this on my parents’ computer, but it’s so damned outdated. It’s funny how their’s runs Windows 10, I’m only 7, but it doesn’t seem to have come with any kind of OS disc. Really weird.

I DO have a Blu-ray burner though. Now, as to making my own packaging, that’s altogether different. I’m so paranoid I’m still thinking I should get a VPN before I do anything.

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Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death

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I mean it wouldn’t hurt, but it’s also probably not necessary. I’ve never heard of someone getting in trouble for downloading an edit. In fact I’ve never even heard of someone making an edit getting in trouble. A couple cease and desists but no trouble. You’re not going to be the first.

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TV’s Frink said:

Mike O said:

Bingowings said:

Don’t we have a couple of threads on this topic already?

Got me. The search function here doesn’t work very well, the whole forum setup is wonky.

Google this

site:originaltrilogy.com [search subject]

We could get better forums. I’m just saying 😉.

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Has Harmy done a 1080p 24 version yet?

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Possessed said:

24 yes, 1080p no.

Damn.

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Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death

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Has he done an 1138 19p?

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