.: LeeThorogood's PAL LaserDisc Preservation Project :. - '97 SE Finished '95 THX Finished - '97 SE Uploaded '95 THX Uploaded to the newsgroup — Page 3

Thanks for the help Dark Jedi! I am in no rush as I still need to re-filter and re-render the special feature segments which will probably take most of the weekend to do. I need two scenes for Jedi and one for ESB.

For Jedi I would like from just before
to just after

and from just before

to just after

For ESB I would like from just before
to just after

With these I will be able to cover up the side changes :D

dark_jedi said:I wish I was doing Jedi now because I would LOVE to compare screens with you

I was only joking ;) I appreciate all the positive input you and everyone else has give me thus far!

I can only imagine, but I would guess the fact that the broadcast versions were distributed on DVD5s would mean they suffer from MPEG2 artefacts as well as medium-low bit rates, not to mention I remember reading somewhere that they had been filtered which means its not a clean capture per se.

To be honest I am a little curious to see how my DVDs will match up to the broadcast versions, if only to see how good a transfer I have achieved. :)

Ok I have an update.

After several days of trying to get the GOUT to match the SE and bridge the Disc changes and failing I gave up on that idea. Now I do happen to have the SE on Widescreen VHS so I have used this to bridge the disc changes.

The VHS footage only lasts for about 20 secs at each disc change and doesn't look as awful as you might think! Although its still not as good as the LaserDisc footage. I have also removed the black restore/enhance filter I was using as it was causing blocking problems and as it was at such a low setting it seemed to be too much work/hassle for little gain.

I am currently rendering out the timeline. Hopefully this will be the last time! I will post when a final DVD is ready to be made available.

Dark Jedi if you are still able to get me those clips I asked for that would be fantastic as I would rather use the DVB clips instead of the VHS ones, if not and I know you've been busy, then not to worry the VHS will have to do. :)

What's the best Apple codec to use for NTSC LD transfer video? I've got some files to export and wasn't sure which one would work best.

captainsolo said:
What's the best Apple codec to use for NTSC LD transfer video? I've got some files to export and wasn't sure which one would work best.

Not sure but i don't think this is the first pal laserdisc preservation on these boards for the special edition.

I think i have discs from some person who did a capture.

I will have to dig them out and see.  I know they were done a few years back so the quality is probably not as good as yours.

*Edit to post.  The Grinder edition of star wars i have was the oot PAL. 

So i guess your transfer is the first PAL special edition laserdisc capture as far as i know. The PAL DVB G'kar is not laserdisc so does not count in this equation.

This looks pretty good, i wish you luck with it. Since this is Pal and my gear is Ntsc the difference is not huge, mostly player noise and detail.

Hurrah! If everything goes to plan Jedi will be finished by the end of today! Its been a long 8 weeks but I have finally nailed down the work-flow, filters and encoding settings that work best for my set-up.

If there is time I am hoping to capture ESB this evening, so that I can do all the editing tomorrow evening which would hopefully mean I could have Empire finished by Friday evening. I suspect ANH may take a bit longer as I may need to tweak some filter settings to account for it being a darker print than the other two but I will cross that bridge when I come to it.

Once ANH is finished I will hopefully be able to give you all an estimate on when and where this release will be available.

Jetrell Fo said:I am genuinely excited to see your results....the preservation projects are a very cool idea. Thanks for all that you're doing.

:)

If needed, I have AC3 audio files for the SE from Darth Editous who was kind enough to share them.  I would gladly offer them if they would help.  They are separate, 1 from each LD side so they would have to be put back together...and they might be from the NTSC version so they would probably have to be adjusted...but it would offer a second audio option anyways.

Darth Editous said:
They are from the NTSC discs - PAL LD never had enough room to hold an AC3 track.

Please hang on to those files because I may have mislaid them myself :$ ;)

DE

dark_jedi said:That DTS is not true DTS I am sure, I have that set to and Darth Editous' LD rip of the DD 5.1 sounds way better, and these files will NOT just line right up, there is a lot more to it than you think, believe me, I am working on this now for my set, if this set looks better than the one I am working on, I offered to make NTSC versions for him and sync the DD 5.1 also to it, but have heard no word since.

dark_jedi said:

LeeThorogood said:

 

I was also thinking that instead of having 2 audio tracks (stereo and 5.1 DD) on the final release, it would be easier to just have the one 5.1 DD track.

 

This is exactly what I am doing, no need for stereo at all, I agree with you.

Darth Editous said:

LeeThorogood said:

Just out of curiosity is the 5.1 AC-3 audio 29.97 or 23.98fps? Just wondering if I would need to IVTC the audio before adjusting the frame-rate/speed to match PAL.

There's no distinction - it's AC3 audio that runs for the length of the movie, whether the video is 23.976fps progressive or 29.97fps telecined (AC3 itself is made of "frames", and IIRC runs at 32fps).

DE

Good News everybody!

The (stereo audio) DL DVDs for ESB & ROTJ are finished! I am waiting on some DVD-Rs I ordered to arrive so I can backup the raw captures before I move onto ANH as I need to free up some room on my Hard Drive.