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Johnny Got His Gun: Keep the Home Fires Burning Edition DVD Project...half way through (* unfinished project *)

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Hello I am New To the Forum but have been reading it for years and i signed the petition back in 2004 i did join a while back but i completely forgot my login info and the email address i used is now defunct…anyway i am rambling,

The real reason i am posting is, I have in my possession the Collectors Edition for Johnny Got His Gun from France that has the best restoration of any dvd on the market now, since i am a huge fan of this film i also have the Laserdisc edition that is an ALTERNATE CUT of the film it has extended scenes in it(More on these later) and as an added bonus i have the Japanese Laserdisc of Metallicas Two of One Video the has the full music video for one with the movie scenes and dialog in it. Well i am considering doing a preservation of this material but since the dvd is PAL, i would like to know what is the best method to convert the media to NTSC.

Also since this forum has proven to have the best advice and people capable of doing this dvd, i welcome any advice, ideas, and other help about the dvd. I would like this to be a group effort but i am not shy about going it alone and then having the finished project critiqued, i am posting this for those interested is all. I look forward to hearing from all of you. thank you in advance.

P.S. Anybody doing a Wizard of Oz and Pink Floyd Sync I have the Mobile Fidelity 24 Karat CD original pressing of dark side of the moon which i hear is the only one worth owning.

thanks again,

ND_BYAAAH

All I wanted was some home electronics, he gets to go to the damn dagobah system - MeatWad Aqua Teen Hunger Force
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welcome abroad trickbaxter

well what i was thinking of doing was a PAL->NTSC conversion for the dvd movie with the english audio, i don't know whether i should include the french audio and subtitles because the subtitles cannot be removed on dvd standalones, when played on dvd drive with software they are easily removed, so i have tough decision there, but the basic idea for movie is this i want to create a dvd with menus, chapter selects, and special features along with pics of the media i have, the special features i want to include the extended scenes from the laserdisc version and any other scenes i may have missed

Unfortunately i cannot edit in the scenes with the dvd version because the laserdisc is NTSC plus it is 4:3(the quality is not very good for the laserdisc), also i want to include the metallica video(in its full cd quality glory) also in the special features and there is an interview that is in the dvd with Pierre Rissient about his involvement with dvd and film , the interview is in french however and i don't understand a word he is saying so finding someone who could translate the interview would be be great, i could add subtitles to the interview or dub it maybe both i don't know...

well thats what i would like for the dvd to have i am going to start capturing the all the video and audio first then go from there...drop me a line when you have any ideas or thoughts on what i said. thanks again

ND_BYAAAH

P.s. the dvd came with a book 32 pages about the movie also in French so any help with that would be cool too.
All I wanted was some home electronics, he gets to go to the damn dagobah system - MeatWad Aqua Teen Hunger Force
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After much consideration and many sleepless nights(along with a fried brain), I am going to keep the Restored Movie PAL, but here is the good news, i am going to make an ULTIMATE TWO DISC EDITION : DISC one has the pal dvd with NEW menus and NO burned in subs, and the interview Pierre Rissient(translated), Disc two will have the Entire alternate cut of the film from the Laserdisc and original menus along with ALL the metallica videos on the Two for one LD as a special feature maybe with pcm not to sure on that one.

I came to the conclusion that it is much cheaper and easier to keep the restored dvd pal because most dvd players out now and practically all computers can convert pal to ntsc without any noticable loss in quality. While researching Pal to NTSC and vice versa i tried numerous methods and nothing ever really worked...now if someone has a guide that actually works with details i would be happy to consider it but for now i see this as a better alternative for all of us. if anybody has any questions or comments then feel free to contact me...thanx
All I wanted was some home electronics, he gets to go to the damn dagobah system - MeatWad Aqua Teen Hunger Force
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If this is a music movie, you really should consider converting it to NTSC (in avisynth this is quite easy), because auf the PAL speedup and the higher pitch in audio.
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iRantanplan thanx for advise but it is not a musical so keeping it pal is the best solution for now...who knows maybe on down the line i will do a Pal>Ntsc conversion...btw how do you convert Pal->Ntsc with avisynth do you have a guide with details? what about the audio? thanx
All I wanted was some home electronics, he gets to go to the damn dagobah system - MeatWad Aqua Teen Hunger Force
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Definitely count me in on getting a copy of this one. Pal, NTSC, I don't care. I just want to see this movie again, since i haven't seen it since sometime in 1990 or so when one of my local stations ran it at 1am.

I've got better things to do tonight than die! - Springer, Transformers the Movie

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Status Report:
I have disc 1 pretty much finished but one thing is holding me back, the interview with pierre rissient, i have no idea what this guy is saying, does anybody out there know how to translate french to english, if you do contact me and I will send you the elementary streams i.e. m2v and .ac3 files for a translation text(subs) or dub. any help would be greatly appreciated.thanx in advance

ND_BYAAAH
All I wanted was some home electronics, he gets to go to the damn dagobah system - MeatWad Aqua Teen Hunger Force
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Count me in on doing a PIF chain if anyone is interested. I sooooo want this and I'm willing to share. ^_^

I've got better things to do tonight than die! - Springer, Transformers the Movie

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Any news on this project? Dying to get a hold of it.

I've got better things to do tonight than die! - Springer, Transformers the Movie

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Originally posted by: DrGonzo369
Any news on this project? Dying to get a hold of it.


I'm also dying to see this!
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Hi,

Do you also have the UK release?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41C11ZR6K9L._SS500_.jpg

If so, does the France transfer fair better? I'm also interested in this quite heavily, and am willing to do a PiF deal concerning it.

Kind Regards,

InvisibleWolfMan

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Originally posted by: InvisibleWolfMan
Hi,

Do you also have the UK release?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41C11ZR6K9L._SS500_.jpg

If so, does the France transfer fair better? I'm also interested in this quite heavily, and am willing to do a PiF deal concerning it.

Kind Regards,

InvisibleWolfMan


I don't have that one but I do have a Japanese dvd, most likely sourced from VHS, but it has japanese subtitles... idk, but the quality I'd rate about a 7 (if taken from a VHS) - if from laser disc... I'd rate it lower

I'll have to post screencaps when i get home later - either way the movie is better quality than some I've seen, but definitely could be better if given proper treatment

edit: has anyone seen the 2007 Portuguese release? I hear the transfer is pretty good
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Originally posted by: InvisibleWolfMan
Hi,

Do you also have the UK release?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41C11ZR6K9L._SS500_.jpg

If so, does the France transfer fair better? I'm also interested in this quite heavily, and am willing to do a PiF deal concerning it.

Kind Regards,

InvisibleWolfMan



Wow! I hope that's not the final artwork. The director's name is Dalton, not Dalto. Actually, I just checked Amazon while typing this and the art is on there too, that's just crazy.
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it's not an official release (as most of these we see are) - they probably just transferred an LD or VHS and slapped some pretty good artwork together and figured that if it LOOKS official, then people will believe it is - sadly I was one of those people a few years back when I bought my first copy on ebay
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Originally posted by: InvisibleWolfMan
Hi,

If you're referring to the UK release, the cover is actually based on the book cover:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41oFFXgsmeL._SS500_.jpg

Funny if amazon.co.uk is selling an unofficial release as that's where the UK dvd is available.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Johnny-Got-His-Timothy-Bottoms/dp/B00023JH68/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1195781801&sr=1-1

Kind Regards,

InvisibleWolfMan


I've been a fan of Dalton Trumbo for many years (Johnny is my favorite book of his, although Night of the Aurochs was pretty good for an incomplete work) so I was aware of the cover - sad that this probably won't get an official release
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As promised, screen caps from my dvd - I haven't watched this in years and I'm actually kinda shocked at how decent the quality is - definitely sourced from a VHS tape (you can tell from the bottom and top) and it seems a bit misaligned, almost like it's slightly diagonal

sorry, but for whatever reason i can't post clickable thumbs - here's the link to my photobucket >> http://s20.photobucket.com/albums/b201/LinkTGF/

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Metallica owns the copyright for this film in the US. They purchased it so they could play it on their monitors during concerts without worrying about paying extra copyright fees during their concerts. There's been SOME news somewhere concerning a possible DVD release in the future...but just where I saw it escapes me so I can't prove or disprove my memory on it.

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Can't freakin wait for this...

I've got better things to do tonight than die! - Springer, Transformers the Movie

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anyone have a look at my screencaps?
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Screens look good. colors look a tad washed, but it's understandable. Plus, I think that's the feel of the color stuff too. I just want to see this again period.

I've got better things to do tonight than die! - Springer, Transformers the Movie

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I found an xvid copy of this on a site (700mb x2) and downloaded it.  look 2:35 and gorgeous.  There are some parts where you hear audio and there are still frames in the shot.  Since I haven't seen the full version of this, I am not sure if this is how the original film was.  I do not know if it is pal or ntsc either (I have since burned it off to dvd for archival purposes)

I've got better things to do tonight than die! - Springer, Transformers the Movie