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Jaws Sequels - HD Preservation (First Post w/ Updates)

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GOAL: To preserve the 'Jaws' sequels in 720/1080p utilizing multiple sources.

FILMS & SOURCES - 

JAWS 2: SkyHD HDTV rip (1080/24p) BD-25 [June 2015]

JAWS 3D: TBD iTunes (2D), Vudu (2D), PAL DVD (2D), HDTV (2D/??), and Sensio (3D SBS)

JAWS: THE REVENGE: TBD iTunes, Vudu, PAL DVD, & HDTV (??)

I know there are HDTV rips of all three films, but they're all highly compressed and I'm not sure if they're true HD.

The films are available on VUDU & iTunes in HD, however, when I rented JAWS: THE REVENGE, it seemed to be a mere upscale, but I've heard varying reports from people who own the films on VUDU and iTunes.

The films were also re-released in a 3-pack here in the states. The transfers for JAWS 3D (2D) & REVENGE are brand new, but aren't high resolution. The same transfer for REVENGE is used on iTunes, while the 2003 2D transfer is used for iTunes/VUDU.

My best bet would be to upconvert the PAL DVDs, being that there's extra resolution, but even then, it looks bad because MPEG-2 compression to HD is noticeable. 

Any thoughts?

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I have access to HDTV airings of the films from IFC last Summer.  I've only actually taken the time to rip Jaws the revenge so far (the rest are still on my cable box), but in it's raw form (complete with commercials and in 1080i format) it's 12.1 GB in size.  I was having problems with my Cable signal around this time, and I actually recorded them twice in an effort to clear up digital artifacts.  I believe these 2nd rips are of better quality, but I actually haven't watched any of these presentations, so i can't promise they're all that great.  

I rip things in 1080i at 13mbps (the highest settings my capture device supports).  I know AMC has been showing the films lately as well and I could capture fresh airings from there if need be also (assuming that the films are shown again).  The HDTV airings didn't look like upscales to me, but I can't state that definitively.  I'm happy to help as long as I'm given access to the final product (and preferably if you could organize them into a BDMV format as I'd like to create BD-R's.) 

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TripleHBK said:

I have access to HDTV airings of the films from IFC last Summer.  I've only actually taken the time to rip Jaws the revenge so far (the rest are still on my cable box), but in it's raw form (complete with commercials and in 1080i format) it's 12.1 GB in size.  I was having problems with my Cable signal around this time, and I actually recorded them twice in an effort to clear up digital artifacts.  I believe these 2nd rips are of better quality, but I actually haven't watched any of these presentations, so i can't promise they're all that great.  

I rip things in 1080i at 13mbps (the highest settings my capture device supports).  I know AMC has been showing the films lately as well and I could capture fresh airings from there if need be also (assuming that the films are shown again).  The HDTV airings didn't look like upscales to me, but I can't state that definitively.  I'm happy to help as long as I'm given access to the final product (and preferably if you could organize them into a BDMV format as I'd like to create BD-R's.) 

 Sure, any help is appreciated and I will upload the final BD-Rs to the spleen. Are the films cropped with logos on AMC and IFC?

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So, your going to finish and upload the horrible Jaws sequels but your Star Wars projects were never finished.  Interesting.

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stretch009 said:

So, your going to finish and upload the horrible Jaws sequels but your Star Wars projects were never finished.  Interesting.

Still working on Completionist Saga, don't have enough elements for release yet, and my FACES LD captures were finished. Cancelled the 97 SE captures because I had a bad set of disc, etc. 

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JawsTDS said:

TripleHBK said:

I have access to HDTV airings of the films from IFC last Summer.  I've only actually taken the time to rip Jaws the revenge so far (the rest are still on my cable box), but in it's raw form (complete with commercials and in 1080i format) it's 12.1 GB in size.  I was having problems with my Cable signal around this time, and I actually recorded them twice in an effort to clear up digital artifacts.  I believe these 2nd rips are of better quality, but I actually haven't watched any of these presentations, so i can't promise they're all that great.  

I rip things in 1080i at 13mbps (the highest settings my capture device supports).  I know AMC has been showing the films lately as well and I could capture fresh airings from there if need be also (assuming that the films are shown again).  The HDTV airings didn't look like upscales to me, but I can't state that definitively.  I'm happy to help as long as I'm given access to the final product (and preferably if you could organize them into a BDMV format as I'd like to create BD-R's.) 

 Sure, any help is appreciated and I will upload the final BD-Rs to the spleen. Are the films cropped with logos on AMC and IFC?

 The IFC logo comes on and eventually fades away for a bit.  Sadly it's there for quite a bit of the movie if I'm not mistaken.  The AMC broadcasts don't have any logos from what i remember but I don't have captures of those at the moment.  I'd have to record them the next time they air.  I initially went with the IFC captures as at the time this was the only place airing the films in HD that I was aware of as I don't have any premium movie channels, and I also know that IFC doesn't edit their films for content, so i was guaranteeing myself uncensored versions, something I doubt AMC does.  I never planned to make them into a full on project as I figured at some point official discs would be released, and for me this would suffice until that time.  The films were all presented in 1.78:1.

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For Jaws 2 I believe the logoless OAR Sky HD cap would be best for a preservation. There is a slowed down 23.976fps version and synced with the dvd audio available over on Usenet. Better than the iTunes version.

Used to have personal Sky Hd OAR Jaws 3 and Jaws The Revenge caps but the picture quality while Hd wasn't anything to write home about, especially Jaws 3, so deleted them.

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TripleHBK said:

JawsTDS said:

TripleHBK said:

I have access to HDTV airings of the films from IFC last Summer.  I've only actually taken the time to rip Jaws the revenge so far (the rest are still on my cable box), but in it's raw form (complete with commercials and in 1080i format) it's 12.1 GB in size.  I was having problems with my Cable signal around this time, and I actually recorded them twice in an effort to clear up digital artifacts.  I believe these 2nd rips are of better quality, but I actually haven't watched any of these presentations, so i can't promise they're all that great.  

I rip things in 1080i at 13mbps (the highest settings my capture device supports).  I know AMC has been showing the films lately as well and I could capture fresh airings from there if need be also (assuming that the films are shown again).  The HDTV airings didn't look like upscales to me, but I can't state that definitively.  I'm happy to help as long as I'm given access to the final product (and preferably if you could organize them into a BDMV format as I'd like to create BD-R's.) 

 Sure, any help is appreciated and I will upload the final BD-Rs to the spleen. Are the films cropped with logos on AMC and IFC?

 The IFC logo comes on and eventually fades away for a bit.  Sadly it's there for quite a bit of the movie if I'm not mistaken.  The AMC broadcasts don't have any logos from what i remember but I don't have captures of those at the moment.  I'd have to record them the next time they air.  I initially went with the IFC captures as at the time this was the only place airing the films in HD that I was aware of as I don't have any premium movie channels, and I also know that IFC doesn't edit their films for content, so i was guaranteeing myself uncensored versions, something I doubt AMC does.  I never planned to make them into a full on project as I figured at some point official discs would be released, and for me this would suffice until that time.  The films were all presented in 1.78:1.

 Could you possibly send me some screenshots from the JTR airing? I don't mind the logo, can work around it with other sources, even if it's 1.78, would still be nice for an HD transfer.

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Downloaded the JAWS 2 rip, it looks great, but I'm confused as it's 1080/23i. I think it's false interlaced, so I could probably set the field order to progressive and convert it to 23.976p.

Here are the screenshots: http://imgur.com/a/wWz3Q

Looks to be DNR'ed a bit, so I might add some fake film grain to add some "fake detail" and that might help cover up macroblocking in some areas. Let me know if I'm going the wrong route.

@TripleHBK - the quality is decent, and is definitely actual HD, so I might want to use that until something better comes my way, or if SkyHD still has the Jaws films on there for ripping?

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stretch009 said:

So, your going to finish and upload the horrible Jaws sequels but your Star Wars projects were never finished.  Interesting.

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So, JAWS 2 has been preserved in 1080/24p, thanks to the help of x5gb! The SkyHD rip was the same master used on iTunes and Vudu, shame Universal haven't cleaned this one up, yet they restored 3D and Revenge in 2011-2012. Going to mock up a BD menu with extras ported over from the retail US DVD.

For JAWS 3D & JAWS: THE REVENGE, I have low-bitrate 720p rips for starters. I hear that Vudu offers 10mbps bitrate while iTunes only offers around 4-5mbps. Would it be worth it ripping the VUDU HDX versions for 3D and REVENGE? Or if someone has already capped them would be so kind as to lend me their rips? 

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I have a slow upload, but I'll work on getting my "Revenge" rip online overnight and you can decide what you want to do with it.  It will require more effort, as it's interlaced and still has commercials/logos and such, but if you can use it then great... if not, no big deal.

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Almost finished with the BD-25 of JAWS 2. I ported over the bonus features from the US DVD (minus the picture slideshows) to the Blu-ray. The 'Deleted Scenes' are also non-anamorphic, which is a bummer, but there's not much sense in upscaling them because they're sourced from an old master, much like the GOUT, so there would be aliasing. 

Now onto procuring JAWS 3 & JAWS: THE REVENGE.

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Like I said, Vudu or bust.
I'd be interested to see how it stacks up against the SKY rip.

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digitalfreaknyc said:

Like I said, Vudu or bust.
I'd be interested to see how it stacks up against the SKY rip.

 The SkyHD rip was fantastic quality compared to what I've seen on TV over the years. I can post a video sample if you want. I believe the real advantage was the 12mbps vbr. 

Very curious to see how well Vudu with some grain added to it will look, especially with the compression rate being close to SkyHD's compression. 

I also added the TBS 90s airing of the film as a bonus feature to the disc. Has three extra scenes not present on the DVD release. Should be released next week. 

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I can acquire a  35mm print of Jaws 3D, it would in theory be possible to scan it, and make a 3D 1080P SBS from it.

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poita said:

I can acquire a  35mm print of Jaws 3D, it would in theory be possible to scan it, and make a 3D 1080P SBS from it.

 That would be fantastic.

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Wouldn't happen for quite a while though, I have a huge Star Wars backlog.

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TripleHBK said:

poita said:

I can acquire a  35mm print of Jaws 3D, it would in theory be possible to scan it, and make a 3D 1080P SBS from it.

 That would be fantastic.

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poita said:

Wouldn't happen for quite a while though, I have a huge Star Wars backlog.

 Good things come to those that wait... or something.  :D

Out of curiosity, how long does it take you to complete a scan of a full film?I think I read about it last year before AMPS jumped boards twice,but I can't remember now.  Reading about your scanner acquisition was probably the most interesting post on all of AMPS.

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 The SkyHD rip was fantastic quality compared to what I've seen on TV over the years. I can post a video sample if you want. I believe the real advantage was the 12mbps vbr. 


Is the SkyHD AVC?

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digitalfreaknyc said:

[quote=JawsTDS]



 The SkyHD rip was fantastic quality compared to what I've seen on TV over the years. I can post a video sample if you want. I believe the real advantage was the 12mbps vbr. 



Is the SkyHD AVC?

Yes, it's AVC.

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Thank you for your thought and effort, Lasedisc Master!

My friend in Italy managed to capturing this recent airing of JAWS: THE REVENGE, and it has the original cut with Jake's death and the non-explosion ending. I'm going to try and put this rip on the BD-R I make of this, just need to sync it up with the English track.

http://imgur.com/a/CCQRB

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