Harmy's THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Despecialized Edition HD - V2.0 - MKV & AVCHD (Released) — Page 105

Actually, I did wonder sometimes if it was perfectly in sync all the way. I know that near the end, 2 frames were removed for sync issues, but even in the early scenes, it's a thing I wondered...

I also noticed, when resynchronizing my subtitles, that there was a 1-frame difference between Star Wars DE and Team Blu's BD25 upscale. The 1-frame difference appears in the hangar on Yavin. Since the two version include Hairy-Hen tracks and other similar tracks, I wondered about that, too. Maybe the same thing happened between the Respecialized and the Team Blu's 1997 Upscale, I haven't looked into it yet.

One frame is not likely to be detected, which is why nobody said anything before Darth Mallwalker checked the title card (even when the audio was being discussed).  I can confirm that the title card appears on frame 689 though.

Those who wish to fix this can run the audio tracks that they want through eac3to.

eac3to input output +42ms

Harmy said:Won't that recode the audio?

 No.

Harmy said: And wouldn't it be easier to set the delay in MKV Merge/TS Muxer anyway?

That depends on one's definition of easy.  I like to add the delay to the audio with eac3to so that I am absolutely sure that it's been applied when I watch.  But people can please themselves.

Stinky-Dinkins said:

So does this only affect Empire, or is SW 2.5 affected too?

The title card for SW appears at frame 689 too, so both are affected according to this post.

Wait...what? So what do I need to do in MKVmerge with the audio to correct for this missing frame?

I didn't notice it when I watched it, but I know myself and now that I know it's there I'll notice it....placebo or not. :)

Darth Mallwalker said:  But when I wrote "GOUTs" as plural I only meant 'both NTSC & PAL ESBs' are the ones which begin 688.

Ah, sorry.  I was thinking of the two films that now have 2.x releases (i.e. not Jedi) and misinterpreted your post.  My mistake!  Thanks for the clarification.

Nick66 said:

Wait...what? So what do I need to do in MKVmerge with the audio to correct for this missing frame?

I didn't notice it when I watched it, but I know myself and now that I know it's there I'll notice it....placebo or not. :)

 *sticks fingers in ears*

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@ Harmy

I don't know how busy you are with your studies or your work on ROTJ v2.0 but is there a chance for TESB v2.1 without the additional frame and credits typos, only if you have a timeframe while waiting for new 35mm sources? Of course, it's not that important and depends on the amount of effort.

Chewtobacca said:

One frame is not likely to be detected, which is why nobody said anything before Darth Mallwalker checked the title card (even when the audio was being discussed).  I can confirm that the title card appears on frame 689 though.

Those who wish to fix this can run the audio tracks that they want through eac3to.

eac3to input output +42ms

Ah, so I guess Darth Mallwalker meant seconds. I thought .041ms would be way too small to notice, but I have previously noticed advanced audio of around 50ms in plenty of other videos so I guess it's not the placebo effect.

So a one frame audio advance is 42ms? And would this be the same for any video that is 23.976 fps? Do you not trust mkvmerge/tsmuxer to apply the delay correctly or is eac3to just your preferred method?

Thanks for your DVD versions by the way.

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