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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released) — Page 577

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yoda-sama said:

Actually, I think The Phantom Menace was shot in 35mm, while framed for 2.35:1 and only ever presented in that fashion (and the only Prequel to even be shot on film), it may be the lone standout Star Wars film to have been matted and therefore have more picture to offer. You’ll never see that happen, and frankly who wants to see any more of TPM, but the material may exist out there somewhere.

Just to be clear, it is a rare circumstance where those black bars are hiding anything, and on the cases where they are, the covered footage usually was not intended to be seen and would be less polished than the portion originally framed for (especially in SFX heavy films, as there’s little reason to perfect effects in parts of an image not intended to be seen). Take 4:3 “Fullscreen” video (or “Fullframe” older films), on a modern TV you see black bars on the side, you can’t believe there is video they’re hiding on the sides (well, except for movies that WERE widescreen and then cropped in the CRT era to “fit your TV”), in that same way there’s not likely something hidden in black bars at the top and bottom of an extra wide video presentation.

TPM was shot using Arri cameras and 2x squeeze anamorphic Hawk lenses.

https://www.theasc.com/magazine/sept99/phantom/fx2/main.htm

Therefore all live action is not matted (only Super35mm/VistaVision/70mm can be properly hardmatted to 2.35 and maintain picture quality) and what you see on the screen is pretty much on the film frame (apart from some very light cropping around the edges). There’s nothing hidden.

What’s the internal temperature of a TaunTaun? Luke warm.

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From additional research I’ve done, the rest of the prequels were shot in 16/9 1080p using spherical lenses and then hard cropped to 2.35.

Technically speaking, those films WOULD have additional information on the top and bottom. Although where one could find a copy…

What’s the internal temperature of a TaunTaun? Luke warm.

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Mavimao said:

From additional research I’ve done, the rest of the prequels were shot in 16/9 1080p using spherical lenses and then hard cropped to 2.35.

Technically speaking, those films WOULD have additional information on the top and bottom. Although where one could find a copy…

The more you know…

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FrankT said:

Is this the Despecialized Edition I see!?

I wish I’d known to this extent about Dan Perri’s work on the Star Wars titles before I met him a few months back, all I could think to talk about was that I thought he designed the logo used in the poster (which I do also like) while they had him signing pictures of the title crawl (though, still offensively the '81 EpIV ANH version), he insisted he’d worked on the theatrical logo… Now I understand what he meant. Oh well, too late now to have a better conversation, but I can only imagine what I’d have asked him about the process instead…

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CatBus said:

Noah182 said:

Yeah I meant the tractor beam line. And alright I will check out the 85 mix. Any major line differences I should know about in that version?

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Wars-sound-mixes/id/15294

Thanks! 85 version it is then! Though I didn’t realize that Lucas had seen the mono version as the definitive one. This creates another conflict within me, especially with the alternate line takes, which seem to alter the movie the most. Oh well, eventually we all have to make choices in life.

Since you seem to know a lot about the audio, do you perhaps know if there is a list of this kind for Empire? I liked the standard audio on the MKV a lot, but I wonder what the alternate versions were.

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Noah182 said:

Since you seem to know a lot about the audio, do you perhaps know if there is a list of this kind for Empire? I liked the standard audio on the MKV a lot, but I wonder what the alternate versions were.

The audio options narrow as the trilogy progresses. For Empire, 1980 stereo audio (and upmixed 6-channel surround) is the way to go. 93 audio is more or less the same (identical dialogue), very good quality, but it’s missing a sound effect for the snowspeeder crash which can only really be considered an error. There was also a very different 1980 70mm audio mix which we don’t have in any usable quality, and it went with a different cut of the video anyway so it wouldn’t really be right with the 35mm cut of the video. The 1980 mono mix was a relatively recent discovery, at least to me, and it features some alternate C-3PO lines which are interesting. But really, 1980 stereo or upmix is the winner.

For Jedi, there’s 83 stereo and upmixed 6-channel, and 93 stereo. They are all dialogue-identical, but 93 is definitely a different (and widely considered good) mix. We don’t know for certain if the 70mm mix had any unique dialogue or effects, or if there was even a mono mix at all, but I think the consensus is there wasn’t. So for Jedi, 83 or 93 are both fine, and there’s no difference in dialogue between them.

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Anyone seen the njvc BD-25 yet?

Ol’ George has the GOUT, I see.

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FrankT said:

Anyone seen the njvc BD-25 yet?

Holding out for Darth Lucas’s due to it including some color correction (though I’m sure that will eventually be replaced by one of the 3.0 versions). But I’d be curious to hear how this one turned out.

I do like the simplicity of the main title screen, though.

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grabbed this recently and running into an audio issue when playing the MKV in Windows Media Player in Win8.1. I hook my media player up to my Denon AVR via HDMI but none of the 5.1 audio tracks (tracks 1-3) result in any sound. All of the 2.0 tracks play just fine and I use Track 4 for the film but was wondering if anyone knew why the 5.1 tracks won’t work.

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DTS-MA audio format. You’ll need a codec pack or a different media player (MPC-HC, VLC) which can decode at least the core audio.

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CatBus said:

DTS-MA audio format. You’ll need a codec pack or a different media player (MPC-HC, VLC) which can decode at least the core audio.

awesome. I’ll try the MPC-HC option tonight as I’ve had varying experiences with codecs in the past

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Arguably the best way to get MPC-HC and the necessary codecs would be to install CCCP (Combined Community Codec Pack… which is actually a filter pack, but they couldn’t pass up that acronym), which will take care of both. VLC uses its own internalized codecs, so it is more standalone. Kodi (a very nice media center program, formerly called XBMC) also does a great job, though best used on a computer you use often for media (it has a whole graphical interface) (oh, and you don’t have to depend on installing extra codecs with this option, either). Between those (and really, you should try them all) you should NEVER have to open that horrid Windows Media Player ever again, nor should you.

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towne32 said:

FrankT said:

Anyone seen the njvc BD-25 yet?

Holding out for Darth Lucas’s due to it including some color correction (though I’m sure that will eventually be replaced by one of the 3.0 versions).

Which is that now?

Ol’ George has the GOUT, I see.

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Dear Harmy,

Thank you so much for this! I am going to start preparing for this special project of yours. I of course own the 2006 re-releases of the OT AND the entire blu-ray box set.

But before I begin, I have an important question:

I only own a Macintosh. Macintoshes still do not have ANY capability of reading blu-rays yet. Therefore, would it be pointless for me to use a blu-ray burner on a Macintosh? If it won’t work, is there anywhere I can take this, like Best Buy perhaps, to burn it onto a blu-ray disc?

If you or anyone can answer my question, please reply asap!

Sincerely,
tman418

We would be honored, if you would join us.

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Hey there, Macs can certainly burn BDs despite the fact that Apple hasn’t chosen to officially integrate usage yet. You just need to buy yourself an external BD burner, which is a relatively affordable and worthwhile thing these days. Then, you just mux the Despecialized MKV into a BD structure (BDMV, Certificate folders) and, finally, burn it with a data disc.

For the record, I’m a Mac user myself and have burned many discs successfully.

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I also have an external blu-ray burner on my mac. (It is a pioneer burner, and it’s been great!) I have burned successfully. It’s well worth the buy.

Also, Harmy…excellent work!

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towne32 said:

FrankT said:

Anyone seen the njvc BD-25 yet?

Holding out for Darth Lucas’s due to it including some color correction (though I’m sure that will eventually be replaced by one of the 3.0 versions). But I’d be curious to hear how this one turned out.

I do like the simplicity of the main title screen, though.

That’s actually very flattering. 😃 thank you. Just know that my color correction will be less in depth than originally planned since Harmy announced that the 1080p, color corrected 3.0 SW will be coming in the future and once it does, my blu ray will be updated with the new version, so my color correction is just going to focus on the most jarring scenes and shots, most notably tatooine.

In the meantime though, from the screenshots on myspleen, njvc’s BD looks pretty nice and I actually have had to keep myself from downloading it since I promised myself I wouldn’t watch Star Wars for pure entertainment again until I finish my version. haha.

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3.0 already? How, when, where…?

Ol’ George has the GOUT, I see.

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FrankT said:

3.0 already? How, when, where…?

Harmy said:

v3.0 will definitelly be 1080p.

Harmy said:

Possibly - I’m actually considering doing multiple color-versions for v3.0 - an I.B. Tech version, which would keep the colors similar to v2.5 (and the I.B. scans) and a more balanced natural looking version (I’d need a more snappy name for it - maybe, since it seems like the Eastman prints were more like that, I could call it the Eastman version), so maybe I could also make a home-video version with colors closer to the most common VHS relases and the '81 crawl but I’m not making any promises 😉

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Oh, is there a potential release date on that?

Ol’ George has the GOUT, I see.

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In the next 2 or 3 years
Harmy please, we will all be dead by that time

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Actually, my suicide cult leader assures me this still gives us about sixteen months to enjoy the films.

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Wario64I said:

Harmy please, we will all be dead by that time

My five-year-old whines like this all the time. But in her defense, she’s five.