but with all the film scans he’s been getting, it likely makes putting any more effort into the rendered credits (released version or error corrected) a moot point.
Yep. I think Harmy was actually hoping to get film credits in 2.0, but didn’t get them in time. And has stated that it’s not worth correcting the typos because it will indeed be a film scan next time.
Hey, Harmy! Just played the opening of ROTJ 2.5 to sooth the desire (can’t watch whole thing right now) and I noticed some weird brightness fluctuations on Death Star around 00:02:07 and the big ship around 00:02:27.
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but mean bastards you need to hang.
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Those are matte-boxes.
Ah, too bad, ROTJ 2.5 uses the wrong German audio track (which is at the wrong pitch)… back when 1.0 was released, I’ve uploaded a fixed one. But in preparation for the German ROTJ DeEd I’ve already fixed it even more.
Okay, this probably isn’t a problem and most likely just recreating an original abnormality, but it just stood out to me and I thought I’d bring it up.
In ROTJ 2.5, at the pandown from the crawl, the Death Star does this weird diagonal parallax thing and settles into position. Is this an original abnormality from the film? I only ask because I have accidentally done this kind of thing in After Effects projects before.
Like I said, with all the people who reviewed this prior to being released, I doubt it is a mistake, but I just thought I’d bring it up if for no other reason than to maybe find out why it’s doing that? It’s such a strange motion for it to make that doesn’t match the camera movement.
Well, that shot is from the BD and it has not been recomposited, so I would assume so.
Well then. Weird that I’ve never noticed it before. Oh well thanks for the response Harmy.
Oops, quick edit of this post, just to note this is for the new ROTJ 2.5 MKV.
Hey. I noticed something very small and basically inconsequential.
The video is not really affected. Let me explain.
Basically, I noticed at the end, after the main end credits end (at 2:11:40), the time bar jumps to 2:11:45 instantaneously, then changes directly to 2:13:20 (the full length of the video) for the duration of the extra despecialization-specific credits.
The only (very minor) negative impact i noticed with this, is during that time I can no longer skip ahead or back as I normally could – if I try, it (usually) just jumps to the end.
That and I guess I cant see exactly what time point I’m at for the final couple of minutes.
So maybe somehow the appending of that final part of the video was done differently?
I noticed this, by the way, using VLC 2.1.5 on Windows 7. I have not tried it on any other player.
Just to show you, the first pic is when its working fine, just before 2:11:40.
Then I see it go to 2:11:40, then 2:11:45, then immediately to:
Thanks for the work. And sorry if this is a stupid bug report.
Maybe something is a little bit goofy about the end credits. I skipped to them, for entirely selfish reasons, and the video (in VLC) started playing at 2x or 4x or something. It seemed locked at first, but then it did allow me to skip backwards.
I think there have been bugs in the post-credits for Harmy before due to the audio tracks not extending this far. It might just make the muxing kind of wonky, but it’s definitely no problem if the main video plays fine.
VLC is confused because the audio stream disappears. (The audio is all GOUT synced, and does not extend over the extra credits). Other players are unaffected (Media Player Classic can seek through the extra credits fine).
It’s just VLC being confused by a uncommon setup.
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Kodi on Linux, when transitioning from credits to despecialized credits in Jedi v2.5, appears like the despecialized credits render badly at first, but clears up quickly. You can see like a shadow of the credits moving before the credits pop into existence. I have no issues skipping around, though.
ROTJ 2.5
around 1:48:30
Not quite sure if it’s that, but during the “Obi Wan taught you well” scene I’m seeing two layers of grain, one’s moving like a regular celluloid grain, one looks like a still overlay. It’s visible during slow pans and tilts, on larger areas of same color.
You really only need to hang mean bastards,
but mean bastards you need to hang.
John ‘The Hangman’ Ruth
Yeah, that’s a problem with the source.
Yeah, that’s a problem with the source.
on official blu? never really watched official rotj. heck, if they really used static grain overlay it’s whole new level of noobnes…
You really only need to hang mean bastards,
but mean bastards you need to hang.
John ‘The Hangman’ Ruth
No, it’s frozen grain from the DNR and the moving grain is what they added on top.
REPORT-ROTJ-v2.5
01:04:41 - 01:04:54
Extreme green halos around trooper armor. What is the cause/source of this?
REPORT-ROTJ-v2.5
01:04:41 - 01:04:54
Extreme green halos around trooper armor. What is the cause/source of this?
I’d say bleeding from the original optical composite, maybe biased depending on whatever recovery was performed on the 35mm colours
I don’t know but it is there on the BD - looks like color-channel misalignment.
EDIT: Interesting - on the LPP print, the same fringing seems to be visible, only there it is light blue and more diffused.
The diffuse glow is there on the GOUT, too. But it’s white (or very light blue). Wouldn’t be very noticeable, except that it’s clearly a very soft shot, if it weren’t for the 2004 process making it green for whatever reason.
REPORT-ROTJ-v2.5
00:14:26 Especially on the top left, when the subtitles start, there is all of a sudden static grain and a jump
00:27:17 Rancor’s arm on the right side of the screen looks artifacty and blurry
00:30:25 sail barge color flickers
00:36:24 blurry stars/ships
01:44:37 Emperor color doesn’t match previous shot, unlike JSC which is more consistent from previous shot.
But, WOW! 5 minor issues, You’ve really outdone yourself Harmy!
-G
REPORT-ROTJ-v2.5
00:14:26 Especially on the top left, when the subtitles start, there is all of a sudden static grain and a jump
That’s there in the print - I suppose it’s something to do with the subtitle compositing, because the change occurs on the exact frame the subtitle comes on and there’s another, less noticeable one on the frame it disappears.
00:27:17 Rancor’s arm on the right side of the screen looks artifacty and blurry
I don’t see it - it is less in focus than the well-lit foreground elements but I don’t see any artifacts. Either way, it’s unchanged from the BD.
00:30:25 sail barge color flickers
Those are compositing artifacts inherent to the shot - it flickers as the mate-box of the smaller ship moves over it.
00:36:24 blurry stars/ships
Again, I don’t see that at all - the ships seem perfectly sharp and the stars only become blurry when the camera starts moving due to motion blur. And again - straight from the BD.
01:44:37 Emperor color doesn’t match previous shot, unlike JSC which is more consistent from previous shot.
Yeah, I guess this one is not quite consistent but the colors had to be adjusted to make the lightsabers look right.
But, WOW! 5 minor issues, You’ve really outdone yourself Harmy!
-G
Thanks! 😃
At the risk of getting bashed for this, I’ve talked to several people who, like myself, have calibrated monitors and we all agreed that the contrast/brightness on both Empire and Jedi is way low, for some reason. SW looks perfect but both Empire and Jedi just seem to be quite dark. Did something change there?
At the risk of getting bashed for this, I’ve talked to several people who, like myself, have calibrated monitors and we all agreed that the contrast/brightness on both Empire and Jedi is way low, for some reason. SW looks perfect but both Empire and Jedi just seem to be quite dark. Did something change there?
I’ve had similar issues with certain movies looking a bit dark on my calibrated monitor, but look just fine on my calibrated tv?
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At the risk of getting bashed for this, I’ve talked to several people who, like myself, have calibrated monitors and we all agreed that the contrast/brightness on both Empire and Jedi is way low, for some reason. SW looks perfect but both Empire and Jedi just seem to be quite dark. Did something change there?
I’ve had similar issues with certain movies looking a bit dark on my calibrated monitor, but look just fine on my calibrated tv?
It looks very dark on both. Certain Jabba shots are far too dark.
At the risk of getting bashed for this, I’ve talked to several people who, like myself, have calibrated monitors and we all agreed that the contrast/brightness on both Empire and Jedi is way low, for some reason. SW looks perfect but both Empire and Jedi just seem to be quite dark. Did something change there?
I’ve had similar issues with certain movies looking a bit dark on my calibrated monitor, but look just fine on my calibrated tv?
It looks very dark on both. Certain Jabba shots are far too dark.
Do you have specific shots in mind? Also, dark compared to what? Surely not the blu-ray, but compared to 1.0? GOUT? Or not compared to anything but simply dark enough for you that you can’t view it properly?
Also, what method do you use for calibration? It looks good for me, but I just use a simple x-rite colorimeter, so quite far from anything fancy. It was certainly not made as bright as SW 2.5 was. But that release was an enormous change from the blu-ray, and went too bright for some scenes in my opinion.