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darth_ender said:
I hope my suggestion of keeping things closer to the original didn't turn anyone away. I still hope we can keep a good energy for this. My editing of the script is underway. I imagine the biggest changes will be in the beginning and end. When this is done (or perhaps when segments are done), I will post my progress which you guys can read and then provide suggestions. I am being fairly conservative thus far in my edit, as I don't feel the plot needs as much work as others feel. The biggest changes needed would be in the execution of certain scenes and plot points rather than the overall story. However, as I said I'm open to ideas. Posting your ideas here is a good way to keep the creative juices flowing, but when I submit a copy of the script for your consideration, I suggest you again provide any ideas you've already supplied with justification.
Spence edit has some good ideas, though it's not perfect IMHO. Also the wishlist has great ideas. Also getting ideas from the novel. I think I can make this plot more intense with mostly what we already have at our disposal.
Is there anyone, by the way, who feels they have the skill to improve the quality of the deleted scenes? If we could lock such a person in place, we may already have enough skill among existing volunteers to pull this thing off :)
I am glad that you are trying to be conservitive as I just watch the Spence final cut and like you said there is some really goos stuff in there it does chop to much out from Jabbas palace IMO Luke leaving does not make sense the ending seems a little bit muddled also on the proposed star destroyer. but it is a good effort no doubt.
I liked the way the fight between luke and Vader started immediatley after luke went to strike the emporer, and cuts of Hans Jelousy and droid torture.
@Darthender... Just as a note... Even though I like the Hot wire Idea to open the doors for the shield generator you must include Leia getting shot on Endor immediately before Vader speaks to Luke and finds out about his sister / daughter. Leia being shot is key to revealing the secret as luke would sense leia was in pain thus revealing her.
I have had some more ideas about developing more psychological scenes in regard to Luke and Vader.....
After yoda Dies we see Luke leave for Tatooine, Prob at this point cut to Vader goes to DSII as I suggested befoe we would see him come through beggers canyon. While he is flying he will remeber Vader pursuing him down the trench of DSI (flash Back scene of Vader targeting Luke "I have you now!"... followed by the shot of luke in the cockpit composited into the canyon backdrop of after he shoots the torpedos into the deathstar evhaust port so he would look a bit scared after this vision of Vader. X-wing flying through the canyon would be a CGI job if anyone likes this idea....probably use existing x-wing footage on Real Rocky Canyon footage or stills.
I like somones Idea of Luke Talking to Ben In his House on tatooine I suggest this is where he goes or the rendevouz point this would also allow for the deleted scene of Vader speaking to Luke asking him to join him on the darkside and it is the only way.
After Leaving Tatooine when luke would look at his damaged Hand we would see another flashback it being chopped off again and Vader reaching out to him "telling him we can rule the galaxy as father and son" followed by the usual "keeping a promise to an old friend"
Luke then goes to the Cave on Dagobah but we do not see what happens after he goes in but we hear audio line of yoda about "the place is alltogether evil" Luke would need to be wearing the Orange Jump Suit though. Alternativley you could move Obi-wan back to this point. But you would have to do the Cave scene suggested as there would be no reason to go back to Dagobah otherwise as Ben is a ghost.
I am tring to develop more a sense of lukes confusion about his father this would also remind us how strong Vader is. also.
@Angel don't see why the Lightsabre needs removing he could have just been modifying it on tatooine or just finishing it. It does not need removing waste of time IMO