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Info Wanted: What is the preservation project closest to the original 1977 release? — Page 4

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Originally posted by: THX
Yes, I'm surprised by this, as I understood that cue was initially intentionally excluded as it was felt to undercut the tension of the scene.

That was also my first impression when i heard the english audio for the first time, and thought: "great, another change to the OT, now the sound is gonna be chopped...", unaware of the reality...

Now that's unusual, I would have expected LFL to standardize the "official" mix for all but dialogue by now.


No really, they are still there. They propbably kept them in because they had problems extracting the German dialogue from the 1978 stereo master. So, in fact, one could in theory use the German audio as a base to restore the original mono mix.
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Question--in the scene where Han and Luke storm the detention center and blast all the guards and cameras, do the cameras have loud "broken glass" sound effects when they are shot, in the old German mix?

The reason I ask is because these sounds were first heard in an English release in the '93 laserdisc remix, I believe; if I remember correctly they are not present on even the mono mix. Yet the '93 and the SE mixes contain these sounds, and from Belbecus' article about the construction of the '93 it says the Ben Burtt added various extra sounds to the 70mm that he had used for the foreign language mixes. I wonder why he didn't put most of the mono sounds, like the Falcon's gun beeps and 3po's tractor beam line. Hmm.

I ask about the breaking glass in particular because it's one of the most noticeable differences between the '93 and every prior English mix--if it's there it means he didn't come up with it as a new sound in '93, as I'd thought, but instead in late '77.
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Good question. I'm guessing they were in one of the foreign mixes. I think they were trying to do an "authentic" mix in '93 (from a certain point of view) and probably wouldn't have added new effects. I'd really like to hear detailed info about the creation of the '85 mix, if anyone has any.
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Molto said:

I’ve got a bootleg on beta of a new hope. From what I was told it is sourced from an airlines copy made sometime in 79’ or so. Quality isn’t so hot but I think it’s quite close to the theatrical cut.

Sorry bumping from very old thread…

These bootleg tape archived/digitized in previous 15+ years??? Or few audio clips only?