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Batman Forever - 2012 Remix

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I wrote a long breakdown but the log in timed out by the time I hit the send button.

Basically I said you need to tone down the music in the Wayne Industries scene, it's distracting most of the time and the bat signal moment kind of gets lost in it.

Try colour adjustments to get rid of as much of the bubblegum pink infestation, it's bad enough on Harvey Dent's face but it seems Barbie was the art director on this film.

I'd have the newscaster settle with calling villain number 2 "Harvey Dent" or Two-face", not "Harvey Two-face" which while it has happened in the comic books just sounds wonky.

I'd also tone down Harvey's mania to contrast better with the Riddler's own mania (so less bargain basement Jack Nicholson laughter).

And lines like "That's my hearing aid!" have to go for obvious reasons.

Good luck.

It's not an awful film and it deserves many attempts to get the best out of it.

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There are plenty of examples of unnecessary exposition in the film.

If there is a shot showing something we don't need to hear an actor telling us what we are seeing.

It might be fun to collect dialogue from Tommy Lee Jones' back catalogue and cultivate two voices for his two faces.

A plain Tommy Lee voice for the DA side to balance the deranged croaking of the acid scarred side.

If the roof top sequence is moved to after the circus we don't need Batman in Chase's bedroom and we don't need the Batsmile.

Have Bruce driven to tell her he is Batman because of his reaction to what Dick is doing and what the newscaster is saying not just because he wants her to want into his drawers instead of the Bat's tights.

This bit needs to go too :

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You know when the newscaster says other gangs are coming into town to compete against Batman?

You could use bits of the hated Batman And Robin in there to make out that the Riddler and Two-Face aren't the only problems hitting Gotham at the same time (taking snippets of footage from it is probably all you can do with that film).

Maybe Two-Face has to compete with another gang for a chance at killing Bats.

UV Skullface could be replaced with a more prominent featured villain and at the end of the film the dynamic duo could go off to finish that fight.

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I was thinking more about replacing UV skull face with Ice, Bane (with an intelligible voice) even Ivy if she keeps her mouth shut most of the time.

I've only seen B&M once and I'm not sure if my bowels can cope with watching it a second time. 

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Yeah.

I like the idea of Dick (new to the crime fighting game) getting in over his head but if there has to be a crime boss in there he might as well have been an actual Batman comic book villain rather than just some bloke wearing UV make-up.

It ties in with the television report following the subway blast to have more than just the main villains in town and it could set up the end with the new team ready to clean up the current bad guy/girl in residence.

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So after many years on/off this project I expect this to be released towards end of the year hopefully by Halloween time


Edit/Remix Status

The project is almost complete after starting in 2012. Again, every single track has been remastered including dialog tracks, sound effects, and of course the music. Remix will be available in HD and is mixed in 5.1. Realistically I took a break between 2013-2014 due to my career taking priority but now is the time to put this project to rest and let the fans see the project. Full list of changes will be made available later.

The intention behind the remix was not to make this a Tim Burton style film, or replace all of the music with just a single composer, or to just simply cut out some silly lines. It’s been done before and there has been some excellent attempts on “fanfixing” this film. Those fanfixes should be the ones to watch to enjoy a version of the Batman Forever of what could have been a better film.

This fanedit of mine is a remix is simply based on my personal decisions on what can make Batman Forever a more enjoyable film today with multiple music composers who have worked on Batman projects as well other cuts or alternative edits to make this film a little more enjoyable in 2016.

Elliot’s original work is mostly great in my opinion, but there are some pieces of his I just don’t care for while Hans Zimmer, Danny Elfman, Nick Arundel, and Christopher Drake have an amazing library of Batman material that works perfectly for certain scenes of the Forever film. Some of Elliot’s work may be used in different scenes this time which is part of the reason why almost everything has been remixed.

Based upon looking at the material used I would say this remix contains 35% Hans Zimmer (with some James Newton Howard), 25% Elliot Goldenthal, 15% Danny Elfman, 15% Nick Arundel, and 10% Christopher Drake. Nick’s work specifically, not exactly material from other co-composers he has worked with.

But hey, the music remix isn’t going to be for everyone which is why the original 1995 5.1 audio mix will also be included as an additional audio track (both for DVD/Blu and mp4). The 1995 audio mix will still contain the important dialog cuts and changes but the music and sound effects will be the same as the 1995 version.

Audio tracks included:
Remixed Audio - To get the full experience of this remix - includes all composers and some updated sound effects
Remixed Score Only [instrumental] - No dialog or sound effects, just the remixed score.
Original 1995 Audio - Original score and sound effects, as well as original songs used in Edward Nigma apartment and credits.
Audio Commentary explaining the edits and choices
[UNDECIDED] Possible fifth track to include just dialog and sound effects - will only do this if it sounds right

This was a music project first that turned into a larger Forever fanedit that still fixes a lot of the scenes most fans don’t care for. Some of the changes and cuts are also inspired by input from fans. For example, both Jim Carrey and Tommy Lee Jones are hopefully more tolerable to watch all the way through in this version. To accomplish this, it takes more than just simply cutting out certain dialog. You will see changes that I feel haven’t been done before which includes (but not limited to Smile
Two-face murdering innocent person at the circus on TV during his “ladies and gentlemen” speech
Riddler shows Two-Face Bruce’s memory differently (i.e. the only line kept in that scene is " what kind of a man has bats on the brain" )
I don’t mind sharing later what is CUT from the film, but part of the experience would be not to spoil some of the other unique changes made to give a completely new feel the film.

One more edit decision - To include or not include

I have one section of the remix that I still would like to get sorted out before I decide to include or not include a specific line that some of us don’t care for while others don’t mind that much.
My only interest to include “holy rusted metal batman” is only if the extra dialog after, “this place was a refueling station for subs,” was ever actually released on any international version of the film.

If any fan is aware of this additional line and where I can obtain it would mean a lot. I have purchased UK, Germany, and Australia versions with no luck. I already know the riddler beating someone with a cane has never been released thus the reason to not bother including “how do i punch a guy” scene at all in my opinion.

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