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An American Werewolf In London (mangowolf Edition) V2 Available Now

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NOW ON MYSPLEEN

V2 is ready! PM for the link.

Movie with Color Regrade to match older releases
Features the Original 1981 Mono Audio Track

List of Bonus Features:

1981 TV Spot (Narrated by Wolfman Jack)
1988 TV Spot
Original Trailer (Remastered)
Japanese Trailer
Beware The Moon (Making Of Documentary from 2009)
Casting Of The Hand (1980 Archival Footage)
I Walked With A Werewolf (Rick Baker Interview from 2009)
Interview With John Landis (2002)
Photo Montage
Interview With Rick Baker (2002)
Bob Burns Props 1
Bob Burns Props 2
Change-O Head and Back
Maria Shriver Interview with Rick Baker (1981)
Max Landis Transformation (Homemade Movies)
Manmade Transformation (Youtube 2017)

Hey everyone.

I’ve had a lot of fun being on here, and I’ve been getting ready to do this project for a while and I think this will be the right place for it.

I’m working on a restoration of An American werewolf In London. My goal is to create a nice quality BD-25 with the original Mono soundtrack and a bit of color regrading utilizing the most recent Blu-Ray release (35th Anniversary Restored Edition) and the audio from the original DVD (Audio was stretched to 5.1, being converted to mono using Handbrake). I’ve heard rumors that the 1995 laserdisc release has the original untouched Mono soundtrack, so maybe with your help, we can make a version with that audio as well someday.

John Landis went totally Lucas on this movie back in 2002. Several sound effects such as gunshots, car crashes, gore sounds, etc. were added to the preexisting soundtrack. Everything was mixed to 5.1, and the strangest change of all, the entire audio track was pitched down which just made everyone sound like they had a deep voice.

I’m working on the first version of this restoration now, and I’ll hopefully be able to get it to you by this weekend. Wish me luck!

Mango

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Not being terribly familiar with this film beyond the fact that I’ve seen and enjoyed it, could the down-pitch thing be due to the fact that you’re used to watching PAL versions (which are sped up 4%, thus raising the pitch)?

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Classic film and best ever werewolf, imo.

I didn’t buy the 35th anniversary edition precisely for this reason. How hard is it to include the original mono track? JAWS managed it for both DVD (re-release) and Blu-ray.

It’s been so long since I’ve heard the mono track I’ve forgotten what it sounded like.

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Love this film up there in my top 10… but is the original mono that different. I have obviously heard it but i don’t remember it being that different. Has anybody got the original mono?

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ChainsawAsh said:

Not being terribly familiar with this film beyond the fact that I’ve seen and enjoyed it, could the down-pitch thing be due to the fact that you’re used to watching PAL versions (which are sped up 4%, thus raising the pitch)?

Don’t think so. All the copies I own are NTSC.

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Slavicuss said:

Classic film and best ever werewolf, imo.

I didn’t buy the 35th anniversary edition precisely for this reason. How hard is it to include the original mono track? JAWS managed it for both DVD (re-release) and Blu-ray.

It’s been so long since I’ve heard the mono track I’ve forgotten what it sounded like.

Funny how that works isn’t it? Why do people hate releasing these movies as they were INTENDED to be seen/heard?
And yes, the Kessler boy is one of the coolest werewolves ever.

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Ronster said:

Love this film up there in my top 10… but is the original mono that different. I have obviously heard it but i don’t remember it being that different. Has anybody got the original mono?

It’s pretty different. As I said before, added gunshots, car crash sounds, impacts, foley, gore sounds and the entire thing pitched down an octave.

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if it’s in synch with the video then it can not be pitched down unless the film is playing at the wrong speed… Just saying.

So is the film frame rate 29.97 fps?

PAL 25fps? this would pitch it up by roughly 4%

You need to get the VHS audio or the Laserdisc Audio not the DVD.

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Ronster said:

if it’s in synch with the video then it can not be pitched down unless the film is playing at the wrong speed… Just saying.

So is the film frame rate 29.97 fps?

PAL 25fps? this would pitch it up by roughly 4%

You need to get the VHS audio or the Laserdisc Audio not the DVD.

I think you’re misunderstanding this. Older copies of the movie, i.e. laserdisc, VHS, old DVD all have a different sound mix than the 2002 DVD onward. The audio was pitched down by the creators of the film as an intended effect. None of the copies I own are PAL. All of them are NTSC. I own 6 copies of this movie.

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Sometimes NTSC versions (or even Blu-ray) have a lower pitch than the correct one, can’t say why… I discovered that the Italian track for GBU (and it seems the French and German ones are affected, too), has a lower pitch that sounds very bad to me.

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Mango said:

Ronster said:

if it’s in synch with the video then it can not be pitched down unless the film is playing at the wrong speed… Just saying.

So is the film frame rate 29.97 fps?

PAL 25fps? this would pitch it up by roughly 4%

You need to get the VHS audio or the Laserdisc Audio not the DVD.

I think you’re misunderstanding this. Older copies of the movie, i.e. laserdisc, VHS, old DVD all have a different sound mix than the 2002 DVD onward. The audio was pitched down by the creators of the film as an intended effect. None of the copies I own are PAL. All of them are NTSC. I own 6 copies of this movie.

I thought every dvd version was remixed with different sounds. Sorry for that I have the 21st anniversary edition but there was a botched release before that in the Uk that had the telephone box scene missing. I don’t think there was any other uk release on DVD and they were all 5.1 mixes.

I think the UK release might be better then?

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Ronster said:

Mango said:

Ronster said:

if it’s in synch with the video then it can not be pitched down unless the film is playing at the wrong speed… Just saying.

So is the film frame rate 29.97 fps?

PAL 25fps? this would pitch it up by roughly 4%

You need to get the VHS audio or the Laserdisc Audio not the DVD.

I think you’re misunderstanding this. Older copies of the movie, i.e. laserdisc, VHS, old DVD all have a different sound mix than the 2002 DVD onward. The audio was pitched down by the creators of the film as an intended effect. None of the copies I own are PAL. All of them are NTSC. I own 6 copies of this movie.

I thought every dvd version was remixed with different sounds. Sorry for that I have the 21st anniversary edition but there was a botched release before that in the Uk that had the telephone box scene missing. I don’t think there was any other uk release on DVD and they were all 5.1 mixes.

I think the UK release might be better then?

The 20th anniversary version is where the changes were first made. Chances are your copy has the altered soundtrack.

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SilverWook said:

This full frame LD release also has mono sound and is a bit cheaper to come by than the 1995 remaster.
http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/04914/ID5239VE/American-Werewolf-in-London-An

http://www.ebay.com/itm/An-American-werewolf-In-London-Laserdisc-John-Landis-digital-sound-plays-great-/292205447763

I have that one, but my way of ripping laserdiscs sucks, even if just for audio. The 1995 laserdisc was made by the same company as the 1997 DVD, which is my source for audio. The audio was stretched to 5.1, but I compressed it down to mono using Handbrake. Sadly, it’s as close as I’m gonna get for now.

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Mango said:

SilverWook said:

This full frame LD release also has mono sound and is a bit cheaper to come by than the 1995 remaster.
http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/04914/ID5239VE/American-Werewolf-in-London-An

http://www.ebay.com/itm/An-American-werewolf-In-London-Laserdisc-John-Landis-digital-sound-plays-great-/292205447763

I have that one, but my way of ripping laserdiscs sucks, even if just for audio. The 1995 laserdisc was made by the same company as the 1997 DVD, which is my source for audio. The audio was stretched to 5.1, but I compressed it down to mono using Handbrake. Sadly, it’s as close as I’m gonna get for now.

Here is a tip just in case the audio compressed down to mono is some how a bit wrong.

Get Audacity (free software). Make sure the sample rate of the project is the same as Blu Ray Audio (44100 khz or more probably much more) for saving. get ffmpeg plugin for the program.

import the Vob files containing the 5.1 audio into audacity after you will have 5 mono tracks. But Audacity will treat the project as a mono project and mix the 5.1 audio uncompressed to a single mono track. Save as a Wav file at the matched sample rate as the blu ray.

Hope that helps you can then synch it to the blu ray audio and delete that audio and use the other track.

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Mango said:

SilverWook said:

This full frame LD release also has mono sound and is a bit cheaper to come by than the 1995 remaster.
http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/04914/ID5239VE/American-Werewolf-in-London-An

http://www.ebay.com/itm/An-American-werewolf-In-London-Laserdisc-John-Landis-digital-sound-plays-great-/292205447763

I have that one, but my way of ripping laserdiscs sucks, even if just for audio. The 1995 laserdisc was made by the same company as the 1997 DVD, which is my source for audio. The audio was stretched to 5.1, but I compressed it down to mono using Handbrake. Sadly, it’s as close as I’m gonna get for now.

That auction is close enough to me that the shipping is super cheap. If you’re willing to cover the cost, I can buy it and rip the audio for you. I take the optical output from my LD player straight into a CD recorder.
Just make the audio files available to anyone else that wants them.

JEDIT:Checking around to see if anyone I know has already captured this. Stay tuned!

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SilverWook said:

Mango said:

SilverWook said:

This full frame LD release also has mono sound and is a bit cheaper to come by than the 1995 remaster.
http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/04914/ID5239VE/American-Werewolf-in-London-An

http://www.ebay.com/itm/An-American-werewolf-In-London-Laserdisc-John-Landis-digital-sound-plays-great-/292205447763

I have that one, but my way of ripping laserdiscs sucks, even if just for audio. The 1995 laserdisc was made by the same company as the 1997 DVD, which is my source for audio. The audio was stretched to 5.1, but I compressed it down to mono using Handbrake. Sadly, it’s as close as I’m gonna get for now.

That auction is close enough to me that the shipping is super cheap. If you’re willing to cover the cost, I can buy it and rip the audio for you. I take the optical output from my LD player straight into a CD recorder.
Just make the audio files available to anyone else that wants them.

JEDIT:Checking around to see if anyone I know has already captured this. Stay tuned!

Thats ok. I think what I’ve got will work fine. Building the BD now. I’ll Probably release it tonight.

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Some samples of the color correction I did. The original DVD and a 35mm Trailer were used as reference. Looks much more like film than the modern colorization on the blu ray.

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It looks very nice just thinking perhaps it is too saturated. It does not feel old it looks like brand new. But it is not a criticism just that i never seen it look like that. So you decide if you want it to feel a bit more dated or brand new.

Although any decent software video player has saturation. It does not have bias and value saturation normally just global color saturation.

I think what i am saying is oldish 80’s horror looks almost too good. These sorts of films benefit from a dirtier look at least in my humble opinion.

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I’m looking at it on my phone (still no internet connection here for some stupid reason), but it doesn’t seem oversaturated to me.

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