Am I a hipster? — Page 3

Possessed said:

Fair enough but I think there’s an actual petition out there to change that.

I think the question as to whether or not you’re a hipster has just been answered. 😉

chyron8472 said:

Also, I did once listen to an NPR segment about vinyl, and how encoding on vinyl is inherently superior because digital reproduction of an analog wavelength by its very nature removes information.

That argument is BS, by the way.

https://wiki.xiph.org/Videos/Digital_Show_and_Tell

yhwx said:

chyron8472 said:

Also, I did once listen to an NPR segment about vinyl, and how encoding on vinyl is inherently superior because digital reproduction of an analog wavelength by its very nature removes information.

That argument is BS, by the way.

https://wiki.xiph.org/Videos/Digital_Show_and_Tell

Which argument? That analog-to-analog is better; or that FLAC would make for a reasonable lossless copy?

chyron8472 said:

yhwx said:

chyron8472 said:

Also, I did once listen to an NPR segment about vinyl, and how encoding on vinyl is inherently superior because digital reproduction of an analog wavelength by its very nature removes information.

That argument is BS, by the way.

https://wiki.xiph.org/Videos/Digital_Show_and_Tell

Which argument? That analog-to-analog is better; or that FLAC would make for a reasonable lossless copy?

The former.

yhwx said:

chyron8472 said:

yhwx said:

chyron8472 said:

Also, I did once listen to an NPR segment about vinyl, and how encoding on vinyl is inherently superior because digital reproduction of an analog wavelength by its very nature removes information.

That argument is BS, by the way.

https://wiki.xiph.org/Videos/Digital_Show_and_Tell

Which argument? That analog-to-analog is better; or that FLAC would make for a reasonable lossless copy?

The former.

I didn’t claim to be an expert. I just said I heard a segment on the subject, and they claimed that was why vinyl is actually better than CD. That article you linked is a bit tl;dr for me in refuting it, but basically, they cited the whole stairstep thing I’m seeing in the margins.

dahmage said:

chyron8472 said:

yhwx said:

chyron8472 said:

yhwx said:

chyron8472 said:

Also, I did once listen to an NPR segment about vinyl, and how encoding on vinyl is inherently superior because digital reproduction of an analog wavelength by its very nature removes information.

That argument is BS, by the way.

https://wiki.xiph.org/Videos/Digital_Show_and_Tell

Which argument? That analog-to-analog is better; or that FLAC would make for a reasonable lossless copy?

The former.

I didn’t claim to be an expert. I just said I heard a segment on the subject, and they claimed that was why vinyl is actually better than CD. That article you linked is a bit tl;dr for me in refuting it.

you probably misunderstood the segment because it was a digital broadcast.

Hey, I still have music encoded as MP3 @ ~192k VBR from back in the day when file size mattered. And I’ve RECENTLY ripped my entire Audible library to MP3 VBR -q8 (because I have a lot of them and Plex doesn’t support m4b yet. Plus I hate Apple so nevermind iTunes support.) I’m no audiophile.

For the record, I rip to digital for everything when at all possible. Even moreso than I used to since I started a Plex Media Server. Media servers are definitely not hipster.

chyron8472 said:

dahmage said:

chyron8472 said:

yhwx said:

chyron8472 said:

yhwx said:

chyron8472 said:

Also, I did once listen to an NPR segment about vinyl, and how encoding on vinyl is inherently superior because digital reproduction of an analog wavelength by its very nature removes information.

That argument is BS, by the way.

https://wiki.xiph.org/Videos/Digital_Show_and_Tell

Which argument? That analog-to-analog is better; or that FLAC would make for a reasonable lossless copy?

The former.

I didn’t claim to be an expert. I just said I heard a segment on the subject, and they claimed that was why vinyl is actually better than CD. That article you linked is a bit tl;dr for me in refuting it.

you probably misunderstood the segment because it was a digital broadcast.

Hey, I still have music encoded as MP3 @ ~192k VBR from back in the day when file size mattered. And I’ve RECENTLY ripped my entire Audible library to MP3 VBR -q8. I’m no audiophile.

There’s no problem with either of those settings. Only superhumans can tell the difference between high bitrate MP3s and lossless files. 😉

Most audiophile stuff is overpriced voodoo.

chyron8472 said:
Plus I hate Apple so nevermind iTunes support.

Before I sound hipstery for saying that–I hate Apple because their interface is limiting. I like freedom and customizability, which is the antithesis of anything Apple.

chyron8472 said:

Plus, without a digital transfer, how else could you get comparable sound from a mobile device or from your car as you do from your entertainment center?

Not a problem.

Possessed said:

Astroboi2 said:

Possessed said:

Fair enough but I think there’s an actual petition out there to change that.

I think the question as to whether or not you’re a hipster has just been answered. 😉

I never said I supported it. I only even call it vinyl so people know what I’m talking about.

No worries… I’m just buggin’.

And for the record, I tend to use “vinyl” for singular (as in, “I have the new Depeche Mode on vinyl”) and “records” for plural (as in, “I bought a shit ton of Brian Eno records today”).

And the more we discuss this, the more I suspect we are both hipsters (again… I’m kidding).

TV’s Frink said:

Astroboi2 said:

And for the record, I tend to use “vinyl”

I see what you did there.

I’m glad you noticed 😃

I hate vinyl because it weighs a shitload and takes up a ton of physical space.

I quite enjoy vinyl, but not because I think it’s superior. It’s just nostalgic and I enjoy the experience… but I also enjoy the MP3 format for making playlists I can listen to while walking around!

I do enjoy physical media in general though, with an emphasis on the retro stuff. Records, CDs, DVDs, Laserdiscs, Blurays… all of it’s cool. I also have some of older video game consoles and computers too. I guess I’m somewhat of a collector… but I try not to be a hoarder.

I really respect those who are minimalists though, and I do believe that going digital is probably better for the environment. I just really enjoy the history of our culture’s entertainment. Plus, I don’t think it’s terrible for a few of us to save some this for posterity. And with my emphasis on retro, I’m keeping at least some of this from going into a landfill… for a little while at anyway!

TV’s Frink said:

Once again, I am forced to post this.

https://youtu.be/XCumH8LRo1A?t=67

That’s awesome! “Is it a DAT player?”