All Things Star Trek — Page 126

SwissArmyTin said:

The collector’s edition DVD of The Undiscovered Country had a few changes from the previous VHS director’s cut, mainly just this very, very cheesy ‘flashback’ effect during Spock’s mind meld interrogation of Valeris, showing clips of the people he listed off.

Still have all the collector’s edition DVDs of the TOS films, and they mostly look great. They all have a warm color palette, which is alright I suppose. I don’t own any of the TNG films from that series, but I do have the first run First Contact DVD, and christ I hope they used a better transfer for the Collector’s Edition DVD. DNR’d to death and back, and there’s something else I can’t put my finger on, but it just looks so, so wrong.

Yeah now I’m thinking it was a new transfer on the '05 dvd. I seem to recall a review mentioning it and I don’t recall seeing the issues you’re describing.

Fang Zei said:

pittrek said:

Fang Zei said:

Handman said:

The old Blu-ray was very blue, they corrected it somewhat. Plus, it was the safest option for the 50th, seeing as how it’s the most beloved film of the series.

The old blu-ray also shows some of the same contrast-boosting issues as the other five. I remember seeing a screenshot comparison of the shot where the Reliant and Enterprise first approach each other and the 2016 re-restoration is much more natural looking. The first six were released all at once back in '09, which probably means the same person/people were responsible for the final tweaks on all of them before the discs were pressed. There’s even a bit of dnr on that first WoK bd, it’s just nowhere near as bad as on the others thanks to the restoration.

Sorry for my voice / accent : https://youtu.be/vPfiYtBo0Wk?t=7m19s

Thank you for sharing, I subscribed as well!

Did the 2002 dvd recieve a different color-timing from the original dvd release a couple years earlier? I seem to recall reading a review that mentioned it. It would be interesting to see that initial dvd compared against the 2016 release as well.

Thanks guys 😃 I unfortunately don’t have that DVD (yet). Are you talking about this DVD ? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Trek-2-The-Wrath-Of-Khan-DVD-William-Shatner-Leonard-Nimoy-DeForest-Kel-/381512058926?hash=item58d3e4082e:g:51gAAOSwjVVVkUyN It claims to be from 2000…

pittrek said:

Fang Zei said:

pittrek said:

Fang Zei said:

Handman said:

The old Blu-ray was very blue, they corrected it somewhat. Plus, it was the safest option for the 50th, seeing as how it’s the most beloved film of the series.

The old blu-ray also shows some of the same contrast-boosting issues as the other five. I remember seeing a screenshot comparison of the shot where the Reliant and Enterprise first approach each other and the 2016 re-restoration is much more natural looking. The first six were released all at once back in '09, which probably means the same person/people were responsible for the final tweaks on all of them before the discs were pressed. There’s even a bit of dnr on that first WoK bd, it’s just nowhere near as bad as on the others thanks to the restoration.

Sorry for my voice / accent : https://youtu.be/vPfiYtBo0Wk?t=7m19s

Thank you for sharing, I subscribed as well!

Did the 2002 dvd recieve a different color-timing from the original dvd release a couple years earlier? I seem to recall reading a review that mentioned it. It would be interesting to see that initial dvd compared against the 2016 release as well.

Thanks guys 😃 I unfortunately don’t have that DVD (yet). Are you talking about this DVD ? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Trek-2-The-Wrath-Of-Khan-DVD-William-Shatner-Leonard-Nimoy-DeForest-Kel-/381512058926?hash=item58d3e4082e:g:51gAAOSwjVVVkUyN It claims to be from 2000…

Yup, that’s it!

I can still remember seeing it listed under “in stores this Tuesday!” in the best buy circular that came with the weekend Washington Post.

I eventually got a used copy years later at a record store - after I’d collected most if not all of the two-disc releases - just so I could have the theatrical version.

chyron8472 said:

Of the Shatner movies, I only have 2, 3 and 4 on DVD. I bought them in a set called “Star Trek: The Motion Picture Trilogy”.

https://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Picture-Trilogy-Domestic/dp/B001TH16CY

I don’t know anything about where they were sourced.

That came out same time as the blu-ray debut in '09. Khan’s transfer is likely from the '09 restoration. The Search for More Money and The One With The Whales were probably from the new (ha!) “hd” (ha!) masters, but I have no way of knowing for sure without seeing screenshots.

Here is a comparison between the old two-disc releases of Khan and SFS and their blu-ray counterparts ('09 blu-ray for Khan). Annoyingly, they did not provide dvd screengrabs for Voyage Home. I’d very much like to know what it looked like after seeing it in 35mm. The blu-ray’s colors are way off from what I saw on that print.

ETA: SwissArmyTin beat me to it!

Sorry, got distracted when someone called me and then totally forgot to paste the link. My bad.

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews45/star_trek_motion_picture_trilogy_blu-ray.htm

If you click to see the full-sized screencaps you’ll understand what we’re talking about, moviefreakedmind.

It baffled me to see so many review sites giving Voyage Home’s picture quality a passing grade. But when you know you’re reviewing something as popular as Trek and know how many amazon clicks you’re going to get, it must become that must easier to just exaggerate the truth a little.

But I will never understand how a site like avsforum that prides itself on objectivity ranks this as a silver and gives the theatrical Fellowship of the Ring a copper (below bronze).

I remember these films most fondly with the 2002 sets, when I went to watch the '09 Wrath of Khan Blu-ray, something was seriously off-putting about it, it wasn’t what I remembered enjoying so much. I expect the others would recieve the same reaction.

Im having a hard time believing that laserdiscs are going to look better than blu ray, even if those blu ray are flawed

To get a nonanamorphic 4:3 sd transfer to look better than a1080p blu ray? Yeah that’d be a pretty bitchin laserdisc player

Unfortunately, it only exists in the Stephen King short story “LaserDisc Player of the Gods”.

Possessed said:

To get a nonanamorphic 4:3 sd transfer to look better than a1080p blu ray? Yeah that’d be a pretty bitchin laserdisc player

It works with some Disney films.

As if Disney’s refusal to make 2D animated films anymore and the pointless live-action remakes of their animated classics weren’t enough reason to make me want to burn a Mickey effigy. . . .

Handman said:

I remember these films most fondly with the 2002 sets, when I went to watch the '09 Wrath of Khan Blu-ray, something was seriously off-putting about it, it wasn’t what I remembered enjoying so much. I expect the others would recieve the same reaction.

I remember reading several different people’s comments saying that the '09 color-timing was actually closer to what they remembered seeing on the 35mm prints. The '09 is probably still too blue but the '02 also looks too red. 2016 is the goldilocks edition.