Info: Alien DC Project ... an UPDATE. (Released)

I have a copy of the DTheater version which retains the color timing the movie had before the Bluray change.  I also have the cinema and DTheater DTS.  What it doesn’t have is a proper menu or artwork to make a finished project.

DoomBot was crucial in getting the cinema DTS synched as there is a DTheater bumper before the movie.  It is his project as much as it is mine.

Here are the stats from MediaInfo:

General
ID                                       : 1 (0x1)
Complete name                            : I:\Blu-ray\Alien DC\Alien Dc Dtheater.m2ts
Format                                   : BDAV
Format/Info                              : Blu-ray Video
File size                                : 22.2 GiB
Duration                                 : 1h 56mn
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 27.3 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 35.5 Mbps

Video
ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : MPEG Video
Format version                           : Version 2
Format profile                           : Main@High
Format settings, BVOP                    : Yes
Format settings, Matrix                  : Custom
Format settings, GOP                     : M=3, N=12
Codec ID                                 : 2
Duration                                 : 1h 56mn
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Maximum bit rate                         : 45.0 Mbps
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 29.970 fps
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Interlaced
Scan order                               : Top Field First
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Time code of first frame                 : 04:16:02;07
Time code source                         : Group of pictures header

Audio #1
ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : DTS
Format/Info                              : Digital Theater Systems
Format profile                           : MA / Core
Mode                                     : 16
Format settings, Endianness              : Big
Muxing mode                              : Stream extension
Codec ID                                 : 134
Duration                                 : 1h 56mn
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : Unknown / 1 509 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Compression mode                         : Lossless / Lossy
Delay relative to video                  : -67ms
Language                                 : English

Audio #2
ID                                       : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : DTS
Format/Info                              : Digital Theater Systems
Mode                                     : 16
Format settings, Endianness              : Big
Codec ID                                 : 130
Duration                                 : 1h 56mn
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 510 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth                                : 24 bits
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Delay relative to video                  : -67ms
Stream size                              : 1.23 GiB (6%)
Language                                 : English

Audio #3
ID                                       : 4354 (0x1102)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension                           : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness              : Big
Codec ID                                 : 129
Duration                                 : 1h 56mn
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 640 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Delay relative to video                  : -67ms
Stream size                              : 533 MiB (2%)
Language                                 : English

Is there ANY one interested in doing a menu and artwork for this?

SilverWook said:

Something with the look of the "Mother" interface would be cool.

Are you preserving the DTheater bumper? I've never seen one.

The DTheater bumper on this one is very short.  I know there is a DTheater demo one can find on youtube though.

As for the Mother Interface for a menu, yeah, that would be awesome.

I wonder how you manage it to get your hands on all those rare gizmos all the time, Jetrell Fo.

Unfortunately, if I'm not mistaken, you're not the one who is particular keen on sharing the stuff, are you?

How does the DTS track which comes with the D-VHS-Cassette differ from the Cinema-DTS-CDs (except for the apparent technical differences of course like no LFE, LFE-content hidden in the rear channels, etc.)?

little-endian said:

I wonder how you manage it to get your hands on all those rare gizmos all the time, Jetrell Fo.

Unfortunately, if I'm not mistaken, you're not the one who is particular keen on sharing the stuff, are you?

How does the DTS track which comes with the D-VHS-Cassette differ from the Cinema-DTS-CDs (except for the apparent technical differences of course like no LFE, LFE-content hidden in the rear channels, etc.)?

Getting ones hands on a copy of this rip was easy if you know how to torrent so I'm not sure what I've done is rare.  As for sharing, I am attempting to do just that with this project but I don't indulge in pissing contests if that's what you're referring to.

As for the difference in sound, it may be just the way it's eq'd. 

Glad to see it might finally get shared.

So is anyone helping out on the menu yet Shawn?

DoomBot said:

Glad to see it might finally get shared.

So is anyone helping out on the menu yet Shawn?

No.  I do have someone working on some artwork though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aavu7zK4uo

I am thinking about trying to include this as an extra.  Any thoughts?

Can you even fit it on a BD25 since the file is already 22.2GB and with a menu? I suppose you could just strip out the ac3 file.

DoomBot said:

Can you even fit it on a BD25 since the file is already 22.2GB and with a menu? I suppose you could just strip out the ac3 file.

Well, it's either that or we go for an MKV file to handle the larger size.  If I had enough extras we could just do a BD50.

I do happen to have the Alien Saga DVD that can be difficult to get but it covers all 4 movies.

:)

Yea 22.2GB leaves you zero over head for a menu let alone any extras.

SilverWook said:

Has the soundtrack from this LD release ever been captured?

http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/06718/8760-85/Alien-%281979%29

I believe Jonno did this one as I believe it's source is the 70mm.  Funny, I just watched my copy of this today on the 55inch.  Jonno did a 70mm recreation and a DD from the soundtrack.  I have both put since it isn't the DC it may not synch.

We do have a special surprise coming for this release but I won't say anything about it until I get it myself.

;)

_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

Jetrell Fo said:

SilverWook said:

Has the soundtrack from this LD release ever been captured?

http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/06718/8760-85/Alien-%281979%29

I believe Jonno did this one as I believe it's source is the 70mm.  Funny, I just watched my copy of this today on the 55inch.  Jonno did a 70mm recreation and a DD from the soundtrack.  I have both put since it isn't the DC it may not synch.

We do have a special surprise coming for this release but I won't say anything about it until I get it myself.

;)

IIRC I did it... but my memory doesn't serve me so well lately, so maybe I'm wrong... or not?!? (^^,)

 Its on my big audio list that you did it Andrea

bigrob said:

I can't wait to hear the 70mm audio mix in 5.1

 Have I still not shared that with you? I am a terrible friend. I will remedy this grievous oversight without (much) delay!

Anyway, while I did some syncs of the PCM tracks a while back (originally using msycamore's rip, then my own) Andrea was the hero who stepped up to capture the 5.1 AC-3 from that disc.

And no, it won't sync at all well to the DC - too many variations. But since we'll have the theatrical DTS mix for it, who needs a rough old 1979 effort? ;-)

_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

Jetrell Fo said:

SilverWook said:

Has the soundtrack from this LD release ever been captured?

http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/06718/8760-85/Alien-%281979%29

I believe Jonno did this one as I believe it's source is the 70mm.  Funny, I just watched my copy of this today on the 55inch.  Jonno did a 70mm recreation and a DD from the soundtrack.  I have both put since it isn't the DC it may not synch.

We do have a special surprise coming for this release but I won't say anything about it until I get it myself.

;)

IIRC I did it... but my memory doesn't serve me so well lately, so maybe I'm wrong... or not?!? (^^,)

I was confused then because I have Jonno's version of it, LOL.

_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

Jetrell Fo said:

_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

Jetrell Fo said:

SilverWook said:

Has the soundtrack from this LD release ever been captured?

http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/06718/8760-85/Alien-%281979%29

I believe Jonno did this one as I believe it's source is the 70mm.  Funny, I just watched my copy of this today on the 55inch.  Jonno did a 70mm recreation and a DD from the soundtrack.  I have both put since it isn't the DC it may not synch.

We do have a special surprise coming for this release but I won't say anything about it until I get it myself.

;)

IIRC I did it... but my memory doesn't serve me so well lately, so maybe I'm wrong... or not?!? (^^,)

I was confused then because I have Jonno's version of it, LOL.

 

Andrea, did you forget to make a comment?  LOL 

Can anybody point me to any screencaps taken from the dtheater release?

I'm very interested in seeing how the colours look on this dtheater release and how they compare to the blu-ray.

where is the cinema DTS taken from? Is its quality ~the same compared to the inbuilt DTS track? (aside from the bumper)