logo Sign In

Ideas & Info: a general post-Python research topic.....

Author
Time
 (Edited)

Having noticed the distinct tendency around for Python, and especially my very own curiosity about it, I have decided to make this topic about it.

I love Monty Python, and I would sencirely love to have all movies that related to those six people.

I heard that Rutland Weekend Television doesn’t exist anywhere. Can I ask why? Does anyone have them?

Also, I have recently heard that the Out of the Tree Chapman TV show was found. Is that true?

Are there enough features to host a Life of Brian second disk?

And more… Just thought I apetize some of the posters around, who are familiar with Python.

Well? What do you say?

My life is really... Complex!

Batman Returns
Author
Time
I don't much like posting in your threads, yet you keep baiting me to post.


But I'll reply in general, because maybe there are some big Python fans on these boards.


>>I heard that Rutland Weekend Television doesn't exist anywhere. Can I ask why? Does anyone have them?

Of course Rutland Weekend Television EXISTS.

It hasn't been shown in America, ever, and has never been rerun in its entirety. It is almost never seen, has never been released on VHS.

This is because Eric Idle turned into rather a jerk after 1983, started making a lot of junk and decided that Rutland Weekend Television, which I consider his best work, should not be viewed by anyone. At first it was because no one was offering him enough money for it, then he just decided it shouldn't be seen period.

This may be because he was cheating on and getting divorced from his first wife Lyn Ashley. in a very public way that is obvious watching the episodes.

Recently there has been talk of a DVD anyway.

The best copies of the Rutlands are AVI files somebody smuggled out of the BBC in broadcast quality pretty recently.

Neil Innes' The Innes Book of Records is must-see viewing immediately after you see the Rutlands. Michael Palin, Viv Stanshall and other interesting people appear.

>>Also, I have recently heard that the Out of the Tree Chapman TV show was found. Is that true?

Yes. The quality is unknown. It will be screened at Missing Believed Wiped in Britain this year. A DVD release is unlikely, as with most Missing Believed Wiped stuff. I've read the script and it was damn good, so again, who the hell needs Yellowbeard?

Graham Chapman material is all difficult to release because this idiot named Jim Yoakum thinks he owns it all, and the man is pure evil with the brains of a half-eaten donut.

Where the hell is Jake's Journey, I ask you - never turned up a copy of that myself.



You haven't asked about At Last the 1948 Show, but I'm sure it doesn't compare to masterworks like Splitting Heirs and Yellowbeard and Spamalot and etc.

There are about 10 episodes' worth of 1948 Show sketches still in existence. Only 5 were released on DVD, because the people who released it didn't know anything about what they were releasing.

You want your Marty Feldman fix, watch this, not Yellowbeard. (Feldman fans might want to check out It's Marty! also, which is very 1948 Show ish in nature, albeit with very little Python involvement.)

I have about 3 episodes not on that DVD.


The Do Not Adjust Your Set DVD from the same people was also conspicuously missing any "series 2" material - I have a Christmas special and an episode with Beautiful Zelda in it, not on their release. Perhaps owned by a different company now, as the show switched stations.

Apart from the presence of the Bonzos (who aren't at their best either), Do Not Adjust ... is crap though .... worth watching, but not to the level of 1948 or Rutland. Always felt that, as much as I love 'em, most Palin/Jones stuff that's not Python is rather dull, particularly their early stuff.

To counter this, the Ripping Yarns are nice albeit very laid back, and I love Terry Jones' film of The Wind in the Willows (US title Mr. Toad's Wild Ride).

>>Are there enough features to host a Life of Brian second disk?

Not a good one.

Can we stop this now?

Author
Time
May I ask why are you so hostile against me? I haven't seen At Last the 1948 Show, nor the Frost Report and all that. Because I hadn't gone around to that. Its been a month since I bought Yellowbeard, which I thought was great pirate comedy, and just a few days ago did I see Splitting Heirs. As you should've known, I wanted to see films in which two or more Pythons appear, POST-Python. I also have acquired Wind of Willows which I'll look at today, probably. Erik the Viking is also a buy-to-be, mostly because it promises in its Diector's Son's Cut to be better than the original.

I have heard of Rutland Weekend Television and if its available I'd like to see it. I will also buy the two Ruttle movies.

BELIEVE ME, I will consult you once I get to the PRE-Python stuff. I just want to see some POST-Python, first.

I have recently signed a petition to bring forth Chapman's last work. And from what I read it looked promising with interesting stuff in it. Certainly interesting.

What would be neat is for someone to build a series around it: Meaning the pilot could be released, and then someone should make a new series based on it - with all new actors and all, obviously. I have an idea for a first episode to that: Chapman's Sir George has been cought between the timeline dimensions that prevent him from reclaiming his previous human form (the Graham Chapman figure). Jake is consulted by the so-called wise men, which would consist of The Tempered Wise Man (John Cleese), the Optimistic Wise Man (Eric Idle), the Nice Wise Man (Michael Palin), the Logical Wise Man (Terry Jones), and the Weird Wise Man (Terry Gilliam). These men bring him forth to embark on a journey to find a suitable body for Sir George, who saved the universe once (accidently!) and they owe to him to help him. Once that adventure ends, the new Sir George has also some slight character changes. This elaborate plot I thought of to effectively differentiate Chapman and whatever other man appears at the role, in the (remote) case of Jake's Journey actually ever becoming a series of some sort.

OK, now what do you think?
My life is really... Complex!

Batman Returns
Author
Time
I actually have the AVI's of Rutland Weekend Television you refer too. They are great quality with even the clock countdowns at the start of each episode and unlike the re-runs on UK Gold in the 90's are completely uncut. I remember watching them as a kid and liking them and watching them now they still stand up. It's easily the best thing Idle has done since Python.
Author
Time
Wow. Is there anyway you can make them available? Do you have a site or something?

If its the best thing since Python, then it has to be better than Splitting Heirs, surely.
My life is really... Complex!

Batman Returns
Author
Time
I apologize for being hostile. I rolled my eyes at you wanting to openly bootleg the commonly-available Life of Brian, and ditto at you saying you didn't like Fawlty Towers. No reason for me to be hostile though. I take my Python seriously. In a silly way.


Also with all the lesser Python projects mentioned already nobody's mentioned A Fish Called Wanda yet. Always best to jump for the good stuff. Although I suppose it's all a matter of taste.


I hadn't heard of the new cut of Erik the Viking. I don't see it for sale in the U.S. - I'm curious to see it, as the film wasn't very good. Did have Neil Innes music (and cameo) at least.



This shows you how out of touch I am I suppose. I gave up on both Python and Star Wars fandom when they became exasperating to me, due to actions of Eric and George respectively.

(Eric was always my favorite Python, so some of his actions in the past 15 years have been quite disappointing. Although embarrassing an idea as Rutles 2 was, I thought it was funny enough and nice for the outtakes from the real Rutles and enjoyed seeing it on the big screen with Eric there .... sitting in the same row as him ....!)

RUTLAND DELETED SCENES!

The UK Arena cut-down versions of Rutland Weekend Television series 1 were interesting for one reason - they used an alternate previously-unaired "pilot" edit of the first episode with a different host (Timothy Carlton) and some brief extra footage (notably one gynecologist joke). (As it was cut by 6 minutes for its airing, I'm not sure if any other variations existed in the pilot.)

There also exists a longer cut of episode 6 (containing exactly one extra sketch, exactly one minute in length, entitled "In this studio with me") - I don't think this was ever aired anywhere, but it was the version I saw first!

Both of these oddities are, oddly, referred to in obscure little in-jokes in the second series of the show ... presumably for the crew alone to laugh at.

A deleted song from Rutland Weekend series 2, "Elvis and the Disagreeable Backing Singers" turned up in The Innes Book of Records. In 2003 while helping Neil perform the song live, we learned that even that version had been cut down, and there was an unnecessary extra few lines at the end in Neil's full version.



If anyone wants anything related to Python, Rutland, Rutles, Neil Innes or the Bonzo Dog Band, write me at tygerbug at yahoo.com - I keep quite a collection.


The Rutles! If you don't own both albums, buy them now. Neil's best work, and the film is among Eric's best also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RFxencNmZw


Checking Youtube for RUTLAND ... more songs on there than sketches, but hey, why not? Neil!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hU0QZQRTNr0
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_eH4HeZrg48
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5sj-bjm48YA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=AarhZScyuz0
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4fC5B778Oeg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CNn40od7PlQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lplGAiqgPwQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KBK5NyRdWsY
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ISCympuFDVU
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1vrrVj8LbqI

1948 Show! Pre-Python sketch show featuring some great sketchwriting by Cleese, Chapman, Feldman and Brooke-Taylor.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=a0F1ra13VzU
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nioWR2qcMNo
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nsBoiMv9rvc
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GVY8iVAhfuU
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8_b6vyaZUns


Not always the best clips from any of these shows, just what I could find on Youtube ...

More Neil Innes from the wonderful 97 Rutles reunion .... which Eric declined to participate in with profanities .... :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlTwXXIj_B4

Bonzos! (as if anyone watched Do Not Adjust Your Set for the pre-Pythons ...)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2003zBR7-BI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGHhDpIds78
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fnrGIFMpcY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anmnnZPjrIs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omc9lkSjYjc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2fXUe-dmy0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLdA4zKp-00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZHTkb6BUxU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riIqZCfhLVY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7PEhU0PvVY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do0SERv-QFk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lFHkvIYR1w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm8F9Q2zU2w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85fdtF9yR3k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS_lI-ARK4I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz6KHhRGVKs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngvxidwyTVM

Typical kids stuff from Do Not Adjust Your Set
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwC_YXFCpIM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKysX9YMBb0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpx31NNnEEc

Innes Book
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ui0c7FhTes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TDKYH-dJVA