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Was browsing the web-site of what was formerly Lowry Digital.

It has been acquired by several companies over the years.

Anyways....RelianceMediaWorks is the company that owns Lowry now.

They claim they have done a 4K restoration on the Star wars trilogy.

http://www.rmwusa.com/

Goto Projects

Then click on Restoration.

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I saw Star Wars in 1977. Many, many, many times. For 3 years it was just Star Wars...period. I saw it in good theaters, cheap theaters and drive-ins with those clunky metal speakers you hang on your window. The screen and sound quality never subtracted from the excitement. I can watch the original cut right now, over 30 years later, on some beat up VHS tape and enjoy it. It's the story that makes this movie. Nothing? else.

kurtb8474 1 week ago

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This is interesting:

http://services.creativecow.net/s/6299/jazmyn-marie-media-services

It is the resume of a post-production staffer.

says she worked for RelianceMedia

Also confirms Star Wars Trilogy was done at 4K

"Restoration, Mapping, Dirt Picking : Star Wars 4K Blu-Ray Release"

I saw Star Wars in 1977. Many, many, many times. For 3 years it was just Star Wars...period. I saw it in good theaters, cheap theaters and drive-ins with those clunky metal speakers you hang on your window. The screen and sound quality never subtracted from the excitement. I can watch the original cut right now, over 30 years later, on some beat up VHS tape and enjoy it. It's the story that makes this movie. Nothing? else.

kurtb8474 1 week ago

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I've e-mailed both RMW and Jazmyn.

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Intresting

....but I still think the files that were given to Lowry, the files that LFL had restored & scanned themselves in 95 at the highest resolution at that time....2K, the ones with the 97 SE alterations......thats why imperfections that have been evident since 97,...eg Humdinger glitch are still even on the BD's

It is possible that Lowry upscaled the film to 4K

.....but

I would love this to mean that the company has been working on an entirely NEW scan

that staffers credits:

(5-8/2010, 9/2012-12/2012, 5-6/2013)Reliance Media Works/ Lowry Digital:
Restoration, Mapping, Dirt Picking : Little Mermaid - Disney Blu-Ray Release
Restoration, Mapping, Dirt Picking : Star Wars 4K Blu-Ray Release
Restoration, Mapping, Dustbusting/Dirt Picking : Pinocchio
Restoration, Mapping, Dustbusting/Dirt Picking : Snow White

If the 2012 is related to Star Wars, that was after the BD's release

....sounds pretty positive

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team_negative1 said:

We'll see until they release details. Mostly likely the SE versions.

If that's the case, then somebody out there deserves to be sodomized uncomfortably. 

I believe the original, theatrical versions of SW & TESB are great films. Beyond that, I have little in common with the typical
Star Wars fan here. Just a heads-up so you aren’t too taken aback when I say I prefer Dark Empire over Return of the Jedi.

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If SE, they ain't getting ANY of my money!

If the original unaltered, I will be there to get it DAY 1!

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emanswfan said:

If SE, they ain't getting ANY of my money!

If the original unaltered, I will be there to get it DAY 1!

Same here. I hope someone replies to my e-mails.

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But of course! If they find it pleasurable, then what would be the point?

I believe the original, theatrical versions of SW & TESB are great films. Beyond that, I have little in common with the typical
Star Wars fan here. Just a heads-up so you aren’t too taken aback when I say I prefer Dark Empire over Return of the Jedi.

My screenplay index.

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Does that site load miserably slow for anyone else?


Where were you in '77?

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danny_boy said:

Was browsing the web-site of what was formerly Lowry Digital.

It has been acquired by several companies over the years.

Anyways....RelianceMediaWorks is the company that owns Lowry now.

They claim they have done a 4K restoration on the Star wars trilogy.

http://www.rmwusa.com/

Goto Projects

Then click on Restoration.

When was the last time you checked the site? Has it always said 4k or is this a recent development?

Not that it would make any sense to call the old project 4k, as I'm pretty sure it wasn't even scanned in at anything higher than 2k and the workflow was 1920:1080. Unless whoever put this website together has no idea what they're talking about, which is possible but unlikely. It even specifies 16-bit. What bit depth (or whatever it's called) was the 2004 job done at?

So yeah, Occam's Razor and all that, but it's a little weird if this is how we're finding out about it.

If it's true, I can't say I'm surprised. Disney was bound to do a new 4k scan of the SE sooner rather than later. Especially because the time to do a grand theatrical re-release of the OT-SE in 3D is in the next year-and-a-half leading up to Episode 7, not afterwards, and I actually would've been more shocked if they were still working off that ancient transfer from 2004.

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That theater in Atlanta was making a big to-do about unveiling a new DCP on Friday, I suppose this could be it. Maybe they started on this with the intention that it would be used as the basis for the 3D release that would have come out last year if they had continued with those. The 2010-12 timeline on that resume' lines up with that whole pointless clown show.

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It would be impressive if they've been working on it that long and managed to keep it a secret the entire time. On the other hand, the 2008 re-scans of the Indy trilogy were done rather quietly as well, so maybe Disney is taking a similar approach here.

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AntcuFaalb said:

emanswfan said:

If SE, they ain't getting ANY of my money!

If the original unaltered, I will be there to get it DAY 1!

Same here. I hope someone replies to my e-mails.

Don't expect an answer before an official announcement.

I'm still hoping Disney is going to feed the OOT to the Ep VII hype machine, and the way they've been handling Star Wars makes it a fairly likely scenario. This December, maybe? Fingers crossed, but no real expectations.

And if it's not an OOT restoration they can go suck on a lightsaber™, regardless of whether it's good or not this time around.

SilverWook said:

Does that site load miserably slow for anyone else?

It's slow, but not atypically slow for that kind of site.

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m_s0 said:


I'm still hoping Disney is going to feed the OOT to the Ep VII hype machine, and the way they've been handling Star Wars makes it a fairly likely scenario. This December, maybe? Fingers crossed, but no real expectations.

 If there was ever a time to release the OOT, it would be next year leading up to Episode 7 as you will have Ford, Fisher and Hamill doing a zillion interviews about the new movie.  Perfect Tie-In for the fans.

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That staffer's resume indicates that she worked on it starting in september of 2012.  If that's the case, then I bet this was just a new SE master for the 3d releases that were eventually cancelled.

 

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CO said:

m_s0 said:


I'm still hoping Disney is going to feed the OOT to the Ep VII hype machine, and the way they've been handling Star Wars makes it a fairly likely scenario. This December, maybe? Fingers crossed, but no real expectations.

 If there was ever a time to release the OOT, it would be next year leading up to Episode 7 as you will have Ford, Fisher and Hamill doing a zillion interviews about the new movie.  Perfect Tie-In for the fans.

I'm thinking maybe this Christmas or May next year, if it even happens, but I can't see them releasing it any closer Ep VII than that. Whatever we might think about the OOT, the average Joe won't care or understand what this is all about, hence why I doubt they'd make it a big deal in the grand scheme of things. Getting it out to maintain a consistent level of buzz and to get the hardcore nerds on board with the new Star Wars Overlords - sure. Making it a significant part of the marketing campaign (classic Star Wars is back, with a follow up soon etc.) - nope.

There's a chance I'm just too jaded to see it. It would be cool if they did make a big deal out of it, not only because of validation and all that stuff.

Cobra Kai said:

That staffer's resume indicates that she worked on it starting in september of 2012.  If that's the case, then I bet this was just a new SE master for the 3d releases that were eventually cancelled.

That's a good point. I completely forgot about the 3D re-releases.

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m_s0 said:

the average Joe won't care or understand what this is all about

I see this mentioned here a lot, but in my experience (I know it's anecdotal), this simply isn't true. I've heard the biggest-non-nerds I know complain about SEisms. I overhear a lot of "I don't understand why they keep fucking around with the movie. It looks so fake." during office discussions with dry climb-the-corporate-ladder types.

They don't care about it as much as we do, but they definitely see through the bullshit.

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Cobra Kai said:
That staffer's resume indicates that she worked on it starting in september of 2012.  If that's the case, then I bet this was just a new SE master for the 3d releases that were eventually cancelled.
Judging by the changes made to the Blu-ray, it's my opinion that we got the 2D versions of what would have been released in 3D. Besides, why would they need to do "Restoration, Mapping, and Dirt Picking" the already way too clean 1080p Blu-ray masters in 4k?

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Fang Zei said:

danny_boy said:

Was browsing the web-site of what was formerly Lowry Digital.

It has been acquired by several companies over the years.

Anyways....RelianceMediaWorks is the company that owns Lowry now.

They claim they have done a 4K restoration on the Star wars trilogy.

http://www.rmwusa.com/

Goto Projects

Then click on Restoration.

When was the last time you checked the site? Has it always said 4k or is this a recent development?

Not that it would make any sense to call the old project 4k, as I'm pretty sure it wasn't even scanned in at anything higher than 2k and the workflow was 1920:1080. Unless whoever put this website together has no idea what they're talking about, which is possible but unlikely. It even specifies 16-bit. What bit depth (or whatever it's called) was the 2004 job done at?

So yeah, Occam's Razor and all that, but it's a little weird if this is how we're finding out about it.

If it's true, I can't say I'm surprised. Disney was bound to do a new 4k scan of the SE sooner rather than later. Especially because the time to do a grand theatrical re-release of the OT-SE in 3D is in the next year-and-a-half leading up to Episode 7, not afterwards, and I actually would've been more shocked if they were still working off that ancient transfer from 2004.

The 2004 transfer was a 8-bit RGB scan of the original negative done by Lucasfilm themselves.

On http://www.rmwusa.com/#start there is even a HD video called "Image Processing" which showcases clips from movies they worked on and to me it looks like that the Star Wars scenes are not taken from the 2004 Master.

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ForceFreak said:

The 2004 transfer was a 8-bit RGB scan of the original negative done by Lucasfilm themselves.

On http://www.rmwusa.com/#start there is even a HD video called "Image Processing" which showcases clips from movies they worked on and to me it looks like that the Star Wars scenes are not taken from the 2004 Master.

It looks like a new scan to me.

I didn't know it was done at 8-bit. Yuck! That's barely OK for LDs.

This one was done at 4K/16-bit.

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AntcuFaalb said:

ForceFreak said:

The 2004 transfer was a 8-bit RGB scan of the original negative done by Lucasfilm themselves.

On http://www.rmwusa.com/#start there is even a HD video called "Image Processing" which showcases clips from movies they worked on and to me it looks like that the Star Wars scenes are not taken from the 2004 Master.

It looks like a new scan to me.

I didn't know it was done at 8-bit. Yuck! That's barely OK for LDs.

This one was done at 4K/16-bit.

I'm sorry, i just checked the interview with John Lowry from 2004 about the DVD Release and it wasnt a 8-bit scan it was in fact a 10-bit scan. My mistake.

http://www.starwars-union.de/sw/ot_dvdspecial/seite/restaurierung/

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