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Originally posted by: Rebel Scumb
I like the new ending to Jedi, however i agree the luke scream is awful.Quote
The problem with the confrontation scene (number 1) is obviously the way Han Solo jerks his head Abruptly and not so much that Greedo shot first. "
But more distressing is that it deflates Hans character Arc. The whole point is he is suppose to seem like a guy who cannot be trusted when we first meet him, a shoot first ask questions later kind of guy. We hear him guarntee to Luke and Ben that he can get them past the empire, then a moment later discover he dumps his cargo at the first sign of imperial cruisers. By having Greedo shoot first, it makes Han less of an anti-hero, and also makes absolutely no sense, given that we see Han drawing his pistol under the table (if he was not going to shoot, then why?). And of course there is the most obvious problem that it makes no sense that Greedo would miss from that distance. I could see if they had added in Han kicking the table which would hit Greedo and make him miss. But they didn't. He just missed from point blank range.
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Originally posted by: Luke30
I really hope that George Lucas restore the original han & greedo scene from ANH (the one where han shoots first). .
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BUT in the Special Edition, Han can't shoot Greedo and then bump into Jabba later on without jerking out his blaster and popping some rounds. It wouldn't make dramatic sense to shoot first against Greedo so that he won't be taken to Jabba, but then gleefully converse with Jabba as if nothing happened later on.
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Originally posted by: Rebel Scumb
BUT in the Special Edition, Han can't shoot Greedo and then bump into Jabba later on without jerking out his blaster and popping some rounds. It wouldn't make dramatic sense to shoot first against Greedo so that he won't be taken to Jabba, but then gleefully converse with Jabba as if nothing happened later on.
Even if thats the case, the change doesn't solve this problem, which is yet another reason why the Jabba scene should of remained on the cutting room floor (or Avid delete bin).
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Originally posted by: jimbo
By the way of course he would be nice to Jabba he is a warlord with armed troops Han can be a badass without being stupid.
QuoteI agree about the Greedo/Jabba stuff... but the other things are pretty inconsequential. Nit pick much? I prefered Vader's original "bring my shuttle" line over the new one, but they both say pretty much the same thing... one is just more verbose than the other. Not a big deal.
Originally posted by: Rebel Scumb
Honestly if these changes were gone from the SE I'd have no complaints and I can't say with a 100% confidences I would of become so passionately involved with this cause.
-Greedo shooting first
-the jabba scene
-the censoring of the blast hits aboard the deathstar
-Vader's changed line in ESB
-the changing of the "you're lucky you don't taste very good" in ESB
-Luke's scream in cloud city
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Originally posted by: obi-wan trentobiQuoteI agree about the Greedo/Jabba stuff... but the other things are pretty inconsequential. Nit pick much? I prefered Vader's original "bring my shuttle" line over the new one, but they both say pretty much the same thing... one is just more verbose than the other. Not a big deal.
Originally posted by: Rebel Scumb
Honestly if these changes were gone from the SE I'd have no complaints and I can't say with a 100% confidences I would of become so passionately involved with this cause.
-Greedo shooting first
-the jabba scene
-the censoring of the blast hits aboard the deathstar
-Vader's changed line in ESB
-the changing of the "you're lucky you don't taste very good" in ESB
-Luke's scream in cloud city
- Trentobi
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Originally posted by: obi-wan trentobiQuoteI agree about the Greedo/Jabba stuff... but the other things are pretty inconsequential. Nit pick much? I prefered Vader's original "bring my shuttle" line over the new one, but they both say pretty much the same thing... one is just more verbose than the other. Not a big deal.
Originally posted by: Rebel Scumb
Honestly if these changes were gone from the SE I'd have no complaints and I can't say with a 100% confidences I would of become so passionately involved with this cause.
-Greedo shooting first
-the jabba scene
-the censoring of the blast hits aboard the deathstar
-Vader's changed line in ESB
-the changing of the "you're lucky you don't taste very good" in ESB
-Luke's scream in cloud city
- Trentobi
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For the Special Edition, Vader's "Bring my shuttle" line has been replaced with, "Alert my Star Destroyer to prepare for my arrival". Sound designer Ben Burtt has confirmed that this is actually a line performed by James Earl Jones that and recorded for use in Star Wars (1977), but never used.