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Other "comic book" adaptations that might or might not be worthy of mentioning:

Ghost World
The Phantom
Flash Gordon
Road To Perdition
League Of Xtraordinary Gentlemen
The Shadow
Dick Tracey
The Rocketeer

thats all I can remember off the top of my head, but I know theres been loads more....I left out the Hulk & Spiderman tv movies...thought them too obvious
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Yeah I remember that...didn't they have an Infinite Universe thing going on & there was like 6 different Spidermans running about trying to save the world?

BTW...just on another note....The Secret Wars of the title was originally an Epic crossover story from the early 1980's Marvel comics. If I remember just about EVERY MARVEL superhero/villain was involved in some way & I think there were quite a few characters killed off too. But as it was an "alternate universe" story it didn't really affect the characters regular titles once the storyline had finished.
That multiple Spiderman's story was immediately after the Secret Wars episodes.
TVTome.com calls them "The Spider Wars".

In "The Secret Wars" (in the TV show), The Beyonder took 5 archvillains from Earth and placed them on a planet, and left them to mold it for a year (I recall Doc Ock, Dr. Doom, Red Skull and Alistair Smythe). Spiderman was given the task of showing that good could win out over evil, and was able to bring other superheroes to the world to help him with a large computer. I remember him bringing the Fantastic Four, Storm, Iron Man and Captain America before its energy supplies died out (he then had Storm recharge it with lightning blasts, they he had Black Cat join them.

Perhaps in the comics there was more opportunity to flesh out the story, and thus you could have more villians and more heroes.
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Originally posted by: jimbo I only read more recent comics and in those and the cartoon Doc Oc seemed much more evil then in the movie.


There we go! That's your answer to your own concern right there.....you only read RECENT comics & watch the cartoons...I assume you mean the 2 recent Spiderman cartoon series?

There have been many, many interpretations of Spiderman in comics over his 40 year history. Many reinventions & many restarts of the Spiderman mythos. These contradict each other & change characters/villains motives along the way. I don't think it's really that fair of you to say that Doc Ock was wrong in the movie because it's not like the version you know when there have been upteenth variations of the character that you haven't had prior knowledge of to draw a comparison. Had your knowledge of the various interpretations been less limited then you would be in a better position to argue your case.

It's kinda like watching the 1960's Batman television series & then moaning that Tim Burtons 1989 movie completely changed all your favourite characters & totally messed it up

See what I'm getting at?


I suppose you are correct in many ways. Still I prefered him as a more evil character.
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POTENTIAL SPOILERS CONTAINED -- NOTHING TOO BAD, BUT YOU MAY NOT WANT TO READ IT ANYWAY.

I can agree with the idea that a bad guy should be evil. However, once in a while it's nice to see one who still has a bit of humanity left to him. Ock's drive in the movie was more personal... he just wanted to finish his life's work. His methods become a bit more ruthless, sure. But he's not trying, intentionally, to destroy humanity. It just might happen as a little side accident, if you get my meaning. I'm leaving the ruthless, merciless evil for characters like Green Goblin (both Norman and Harry) who is filled with pure hatred and a desire for revenge. Same with Venom and Carnage. I still think it was nice to see some humanity in Ock, though.

As for other comic adaptations, I loved the graphic novel for Road to Perdition. Very well done. Max Allan Collins did a great job with it.
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I didn't know that Road to Perdition was a comic book movie. Things to know. Its not that I disliked Doc Ock in the movie its just he felt unfamiler to me. While both villians had a change in costume Green Goblin felt more like his comic book ego. Still Doc Ocks climbing made him a better villian for Spider-Man to fight then the airbourne Goblin. Spider-Man 2 was not the masterpiece I was hoping it would be but it also is not the disaster that happens to many sequals end up.
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I still want to see Mysterio as a movie villain. I think they should let Harry's dementia develop further before turning him into the full-fledged Goblin.

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I vote for Venom and Carnage as the villians. I would also like them to devolop the Man-Spider plot for the third movie. The second movie set this up. Spoiler ahead. We see Spider-Mans powers cancelling. This is his human DNA trying to save him. Him getting his powers back means his human DNA fails. That means he will continue to change.
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Again, going solely on the cartoon for my knowledge (bad source, I know), could those 2 storylines be mixed?? In the cartoon, they are 2 separate storylines.

But, I have an idea.
Spiderman 3 deals with the Venom/Carnage encounter. In the beginning, something happens and Spiderman has to hide. This is where Venom comes into play (in the cartoon, the Venom symbiote could morph into suits of clothing, which would be a really cool effect on screen). He uses the black suit to continue his work.
But, the symbiote has started inadvertantly accelerating the DNA changes. All throughout the picture, we get hints of the changes, physically. Soon, he realizes what's going on, and he discards the suit, and it splits, and the 2 symbiotes find new hosts.
In the end, he defeats Venom/Carnage. Part of me says he should transform into a full-blown Man Spider at the very end, and that is how he defeats both. The other part of me says that's too much of a cliffhanger, and if a 4th movie isn't made, it too much to leave undone.

Then, if/when they do Spiderman 4, then we have the full-blown Man Spider, and the attempts to have him change back (intro the Lizard/1-armed doctor that can help him when he's not transformed himself, add Scorpion as JJJ's attempt to destroy Spiderman).
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There will be a Spider-Man 4. In fact I doubt they will stop making sequel after sequel anytime soon.
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Originally posted by: die-jarjar-die
Other "comic book" adaptations that might or might not be worthy of mentioning:

Ghost World
The Phantom
Flash Gordon
Road To Perdition
League Of Xtraordinary Gentlemen
The Shadow
Dick Tracey
The Rocketeer

thats all I can remember off the top of my head, but I know theres been loads more....I left out the Hulk & Spiderman tv movies...thought them too obvious


Don't forget Darkman.
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Originally posted by: die-jarjar-die
Other "comic book" adaptations that might or might not be worthy of mentioning:

Ghost World
The Phantom
Flash Gordon
Road To Perdition
League Of Xtraordinary Gentlemen
The Shadow
Dick Tracey
The Rocketeer

thats all I can remember off the top of my head, but I know theres been loads more....I left out the Hulk & Spiderman tv movies...thought them too obvious
Don't forget Darkman.
I do believe Spawn was a comic book turned movie as well.
Of the movies above, I've only seen 3 of them. The Shadow (which may be Alec Baldwin's best performance besides Hunt for Red October), Dick Tracy (the makeup/costume work deserved the oscars they got) and The Rocketeer.

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Originally posted by: die-jarjar-die
Other "comic book" adaptations that might or might not be worthy of mentioning:

Ghost World
The Phantom
Flash Gordon
Road To Perdition
League Of Xtraordinary Gentlemen
The Shadow
Dick Tracey
The Rocketeer

thats all I can remember off the top of my head, but I know theres been loads more....I left out the Hulk & Spiderman tv movies...thought them too obvious



Oooo eck! dont quote me BUT........................I dont think DARKMAN is based on a comic....i think it was just ripping off comics....i could b wrong...I'll check me dvd later on

Don't forget Darkman.


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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't The Shadow based on an old 1930s/1940s radio serial and not on a comic book?
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the shadow originally featured in detective stories appearing in trashy pulp magazines. it was then turned into radio dramatisations & weekly comic strips, I think in those days it resembled the old flash gordon dailies......a few panels a day..
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I heard 2006. I think they're trying to keep them at two-year intervals.
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I just saw Spiderman 2, It was awesome! It was as good if not better than the first one. My one complaint is that Spiderman was a little too careless with the removal of the mask. I mean, aren't superheroes suposed to keep their real identities a secret? Removing your mask while in public on top of a bus is not the way to do it, nor is removing your mask while in front of one of your greatest foes either

btw, Anyone agree with me that MJ is going to get killed off in the 3rd movie by the 2nd Green Goblin in revenge for his father?
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I'm.......confused.......what do you understand?
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I saw it Thursday, and I must say it was awesome. Much better than the original.

And about him taking his mask off... He took it off because it got burned and he couldn't wear it 'til it cooled off. What I wonder is...Where did those kids get the mask? As far as I could tell, it fell off the train.

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saw it and i loved it.

here is a question for those of you that saw SM2

who is the villin in the next one?

A. venom
B. Green Goblin(Harry Osborn)
C. Both

i think it my be either both or just the GG.
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Chaltab, I was also wondering how the kids got the masks. As for Spidey taking it off so often.... the first was necessary as it seemed about ready to melt to his skin. The second time (with Ock) was simply because he realized that the only way to appeal to Ock's humanity was by appearing as a person and not a man hiding behind a mask. Especially when that person appealing to him is one he already knows and has a semi-friendly relationship with. I am more than willing to forgive the revealing of his face.



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One reviewer I read (and he's the only one to bring it up) thought that it was possible that something might come from the Russian girl from Pete's apartment complex. She had a minor role, but it was more than just some insignificant bit part. He was suggesting that she might become Black Cat. She obviously likes Peter. And, who knows, maybe she will be revealed as having been in the background watching when MJ showed up at Pete's in the wedding gown. She's gonna be the unrequited love case in the story. No, it doesn't follow the comic book. But only some of what we've seen in the movies thus far truly has. What do you guys think? Or did I mention this already and forgot about it completely?
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saw it and i loved it.

here is a question for those of you that saw SM2

who is the villin in the next one?

A. venom
B. Green Goblin(Harry Osborn)
C. Both

i think it my be either both or just the GG.


well eddie brock (vemon) was introduced in the first one
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I think its going to be the Green Goblin.