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Density said:

It’s common knowledge around…

Ok ok, common knowledge… but it’s not at all what I was talking about: Lucas is not involved with the new SW movies/creations past 2012 (but everything done since then is a massive reuse of his material for the OT and even for the PT era… anyway…), we all know that. But what about his rights to everything else before (I-VI + TCW) ? If in the Disney contract there is a line about “never release a HD version of the OOT”, it’s not relevant that Disney and Lucas aren’t friends (which is still debatable. The guy was invited during Rogue One shooting… a movie massively based on a movie he directed/wrote/produced 40 years ago…) because there is something called “rights”, “intellectual property”, etc. You know, the law… This really is the bottom line. So I get there is a 2020 limit for Fox to release SW movies (I to VI). A HD version of the OOT can only happen if Lucas says “well, ok, do it”, because I think (but I’m not sure, that’s why I was asking for reliable sources, not “common knowledge”…) that he is still the owner of SW I-VI (Fox being half the owner of IV) even if he sold his company. Am I wrong ? Maybe… but is there a text/source to support that I’m wrong ? If there is, I would love to read it, so thanks in advance !

And yes, TCW is Lucas tv series. He never wrote or directed a single episode but he was behind every decision made. That’s why half the series really does suck while the other half is very good.

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There are 4 billion reasons why it would have been extremely stupid of Disney to accept such a clause.

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Frank your Majesty said:

There are 4 billion reasons why it would have been extremely stupid of Disney to accept such a clause.

That’s still not the point of my question, which is “does this clause exist ?”. So nobody knows. If the christmas box set happens to be the OOT, the answer would be quite clear…

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If we are willing to believe what John Landis said a year ago that George Lucas told him Disney is restoring the OUT then the clause likely doesn’t exist.

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Has it already been ten months?

We’re officially overdue for another stirring of the rumor mill.

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Fang Zei said:

Has it already been ten months?

We’re officially overdue for another stirring of the rumor mill.

No one has picked up the Digital Bill’s rumor, but to be fair he didn’t say a word about the original cuts of the movies.

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MalàStrana said:

Frank your Majesty said:

There are 4 billion reasons why it would have been extremely stupid of Disney to accept such a clause.

That’s still not the point of my question, which is “does this clause exist ?”. So nobody knows. If the christmas box set happens to be the OOT, the answer would be quite clear…

Do you believe the Diseny executives are idiots? Becasue that’s the only way such a clause would exist.

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I still think we’re gonna get the OOT released next year, or after the new trilogy gets released

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Disappointing update to say the least (Again from Bill Hunt).
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By the way, file this in the Rumor Mill category, but we’re now hearing a new Star Wars-related Blu-ray rumor from some of our retail and industry sources, and this one makes a bit more sense. Disney and Lucasfilm MAY be planning a Blu-ray 3D box set that would include The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, and Revenge of the Sith, plus The Force Awakens, all in 3D. As you know, the prequels were going to be 3D-converted for theatrical release several years ago, but only the 3D conversion of The Phantom Menace was released into theaters (in early 2012), the 3D conversion of Attack of the Clones screened at the Christopher B. Smith Film Center in San Rafael, CA last November (as part of a tribute to Dennis Muren), and Revenge of the Sith finally made its 3D debut at Star Wars Celebration in Anaheim last year. So a Blu-ray release would make sense on a lot of levels, though Fox still owns the physical distribution rights to the prequels (which is not to say that some kind of deal couldn’t be made if the desire was there). We’re digging into this with our sources and will try to confirm one way or another.

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Ok now I get it: a trilogy box set with TFA-3D could only mean one thing: the prequel trilogy in glorious 3D is to be in the set… The alleged “OT restoration” John Landis was talking about might have been a 3D conversion of the 2011 SE.

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MalàStrana said:

Ok now I get it: a trilogy box set with TFA-3D could only mean one thing: the prequel trilogy in glorious 3D is to be in the set… The alleged “OT restoration” John Landis was talking about might have been a 3D conversion of the 2011 SE.

Yeah, GL told Landis that LF was going to release the OT SE in 3D, and Landis, who everyone knows is a complete and utter moron, mistook the 3D SE for the OUT, but what GL really meant was the 3D PT. Thanks for clearing this all up, Malá!

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On another note, if LF is indeed cooperating with 20th C. Fox for release like this, that would put all the “no way LF would release the OUT b/c Fox still owns the rights” chatter (which I always thought was bullshit), to rest.

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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

MalàStrana said:

Ok now I get it: a trilogy box set with TFA-3D could only mean one thing: the prequel trilogy in glorious 3D is to be in the set… The alleged “OT restoration” John Landis was talking about might have been a 3D conversion of the 2011 SE.

Yeah, GL told Landis that LF was going to release the OT SE in 3D, and Landis, who everyone knows is a complete and utter moron, mistook the 3D SE for the OUT, but what GL really meant was the 3D PT. Thanks for clearing this all up, Malá!

You’re welcome. Or second hand info from second hand source which has never been confirmed over a year might not be the most reliable thing we can get, who knows ? A magic OOT box set can still be available for Christmas, or the next… or the next… Maybe when (just a few days ago) I stated that a box set of the OOT with TFA included was non sense and weird I… was… right ? So “3D” would be the only reason/label for a box. Maybe all theories of “JJ only watches Harmy’s version with his kids” were, like I said, totally irrelevant. Nobody knows… I still hope i’ll be surprised by LF some day. A very welcome surprise, a huge surprise nonetheless… (let’s hope Landis has provided us with solid info).

By the way the PT was already converted in 3D before GL sold LF.

On another note, if LF is indeed cooperating with 20th C. Fox for release like this, that would put all the “no way LF would release the OUT b/c Fox still owns the rights” chatter (which I always thought was bullshit), to rest.

I’ve never read anything about Fox blocking the release of the OUT, only about LF/GL blocking it. Has the Library of Congress got its archival copy since GL sold LF ? If you know something, please, share the information…

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MalàStrana said:

I’ve never read anything about Fox blocking the release of the OUT, only about LF/GL blocking it. Has the Library of Congress got its archival copy since GL sold LF ?

The idea was that it would be too difficult for Disney/Fox to work out a deal for a new product b/c of the rights issues. Nothing inherently to do with the OUT.

If you know something, please, share the information…

If you don’t know anything, please stop cluttering the thread.

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MalàStrana said:

Has the Library of Congress got its archival copy since GL sold LF ?

Don’t they have a print and a 2k scan of the first film? I thought I remembered hearing last year that you could make an appointment to view the digital copy.

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joefavs said:

MalàStrana said:

Has the Library of Congress got its archival copy since GL sold LF ?

Don’t they have a print and a 2k scan of the first film? I thought I remembered hearing last year that you could make an appointment to view the digital copy.

LOC has the copyright deposit that is required by law to be submitted for every copyrighted film ever. What they don’t have is an archival-quality print for the National Film Registry.

Edit: the film registry being a subset of films selected by LOC (25 inductees per year) for special preservation. As per the law as passed by congress, film prints stored in the national registry must be of the original theatrical presentation. Star Wars was a first-year inductee in 1989. Lucas didn’t offer a print for archiving until after the SE was released, and he offered a '97 print. Archiving this print was a clear violation of the law, hence it was declined, and no print has been archived by the National Film Registry. Same for ESB, inducted in the 2010 class. ROTJ has not been selected for preservation.

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Empire Magazine was the one that claimed on Twitter that George spoke with Landis regarding said release. Landis himself never said “George told me that the OUT is coming”. All he said was “Did you know, by the way, that Disney is putting out, the ORIGINAL Star Wars, the way it was”. ----https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWeDd7lfNsM

It’s only been 10 months since he stated such, I’m not ready to give up hope yet, as I don’t consider John Landis a moron. He’s not THAT ignorant. How can someone confuse “They’re gonna release the 3D special editions” with “They’re gonna release the unaltered trilogy” Come on, he’s not brain dead.

Either Disney and Fox are gonna work together to put this set out, or Disney’s gonna wait until the rights revert to them in 2020 to make maximum profit.

Disney nor Fox can give a shit about what George Lucas would have to say about an OUT release. If they really cared about George, then they wouldn’t have thrown all his ideas for TFA into the garbage, and George wouldn’t have publicly blasted Disney by calling them “White Slavers”

I really do believe that we’ll eventually get a proper OUT HD restoration. Only time will tell. I know people have been saying this for over a decade, but I believe now, under these current circumstances, that it’s more likely than ever before that it’ll happen.

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Why would anyone want a box set of only the PT and TFA in 3d?

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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

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Why would anyone want a box set of only the PT and TFA in 3d?

Because they are bitter they spent thousands on a 3D setup and need something to watch on it…

Yeah, I mean, if you spend the money and work on doing 3D conversions, do SOMETHING with them, right?
3D Blu-Ray discs are a pretty niche thing but hey, money is money.

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I think he meant that people who spent money on 3d televisions would want to buy the PT/TFA set so they could have something to watch on their equipment, but you’re right that they might as well do something with the scrapped re-release of the other two prequels.

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moviefreakedmind said:

I think he meant that people who spent money on 3d televisions would want to buy the PT/TFA set so they could have something to watch on their equipment, but you’re right that they might as well do something with the scrapped re-release of the other two prequels.

I’m sure that they’d sell at least 5 copies lol