STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW — Page 1266

And here I though my edit was hard work.

I was too lazy to do some extra folley work and here you are building replicas. You shame me with your level of devotion.

Once again I am amazed at your dedication to this project!  Thank you for sharing the latest pics.  The HIC looks fantastic.

If it survives the casting process it might be fun to attempt a few vac-formed copies.

When I was young I made a vac-formed jelly mold of my head using a cast as the base. Imagine the home decor and food fun you could have with a life-sized Han in carbonite :-D

That mold should be well protected...if it survives the casting process that is.

adywan said:

yoda1138 said:

Adywan, just on the offchance you may not have molded plasticine with Silicone rubber before, use plenty of layers of protective clearcoat first as plasticine contains sulphur and stops silicone curing making a right ol mess! I usually sculpt from Chavant or brown terracotta wax which is very soft and meltable. no release agent needed for these.  I buy mine from http://www.tiranti.co.uk/

You most likely already know all this, but that 1% chance you didn't coulda been expensive mistake.

 Thanks for the info. I actually didn't realise that plasticine was still made with sulphur. Damn. I'm pretty sure that the silicon i have is tin cure and not platinum so i should be ok ( fingers crossed). But i'll do some tests first anyway

I'm not contradicting what Yoda1138 is suggesting - but I've used plastacine alot with silicones in the past (two part mould making and such) and we've had no such issues - but I guess just try a few dabs first?

Tiranti are great as they are not just stockists, but generally practitioners as well so can often answer specific questions too. A warning with Tiranti Silicone though, it has no dye in the catalyst! So you can't visibly see if its mixed consistently. I don't know if you can add dye. We used to buy silicone from Propbuilder.co.uk (as the catalyst was a deep orange, the silicone came out a nice salmon colour when mixed), but they've stopped selling now sadly.:(

This youtube channel is a hive of knowledge if you haven't already tried it - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCI4MY9vL2ecVLF4JZLRoO-Q

Mind blown at your level of dedication to this edit Adywan.

adywan said:

Good news. Did a test with the plasticine and no reaction whatsoever. The silicone cured perfectly. :)

 This is great news!  Now when you're done with it, are you going to going to set up some sort of bargain for the cast?

Or will there be no bargain?  Will you not give up your favorite decoration?

We see that Team_Ender is a lie.  There's just one guy who forgot to pretend to be a team.

Team Olie

I think you'll find you were all me long before anyone was a team.

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1) Great news about the plasticine.

2) I hope you are clearing the swamp of trees fast.

3) Ady do you think the X-wing turbine needs tinkering or is fine as it is?

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BingOmnibus

darth_ender said:

adywan said:

Good news. Did a test with the plasticine and no reaction whatsoever. The silicone cured perfectly. :)

 This is great news!  Now when you're done with it, are you going to going to set up some sort of bargain for the cast?

Or will there be no bargain?  Will you not give up your favorite decoration?

 Zing? :(

Monroville said:

(smacks self in face)

The wings are closed.  THE BLOODY WINGS ARE CLOSED.

Thanx Imp Fighter for pointing out what should have been obvious.  Talk about a mega derp moment.

So in other words, don't change a thing.  :)

I found this just now... You would only not see the upper gun if the wings were in attack position on a closely framed side cockpit view.

Weather something should be done about it??? It's not a big deal but it's worth knowing anyway. THEY REMOVED THE BLOODY GUN MONROVILLE!!!! :)

Although I should probably add it all depends on how many versions of the x-wing there actually are and what differences there are between them And which one is correct and which one is incorrect. That is really where this hangs in the balance of a big ??? 

adywan said:

No, you would not see the turbine in any of the R2 shots. Nothing was removed from the set piece in order to film these shots. Due to the angle of the shots and the lens used, it would be out of shot. As for seeing the guns, well no you certainly wouldn't see any of those as the wings are closed ( although the wings on the set were actually set to the open position and cut off mid way along the wings) . So there is nothing to fix regarding any of these.

 Good to see this issue put to bed finally. :)

adywan said:

No, you would not see the turbine in any of the R2 shots. Nothing was removed from the set piece in order to film these shots. Due to the angle of the shots and the lens used, it would be out of shot. As for seeing the guns, well no you certainly wouldn't see any of those as the wings are closed ( although the wings on the set were actually set to the open position and cut off mid way along the wings) . So there is nothing to fix regarding any of these.  But i'm very surprised that, with all this scritiny going on about these shots and where the turbines should be, that not one single person noticed the matte problem with the turbine we actually do see in one of these shots leaving Hoth. The turbine behind R2 has a static matte, yet the x-wing banks very slightly and the matte cuts the top of the turbine off. ;)

I am extremely happy you won't be altering the replacement matte painting :)

But what you have said here, is something that I pondered, that the actual engine that we see is incorrect.

If what you are saying is the case then the engine is in the wrong position i.e. to high?

Are we talking a different kind of fix? Or just leave it as it is? Either way I am not pushing, I just felt that something was not right with this, and if what you are saying is true for which I believe you are telling us valuable information here about it. Then well I kind of feel like you have Answered very well but also raised a few other questions because the engines pivot up higher in attack (open) position. So even if nothing get's changed with it, it's now better to know a bit more about what is going on.

Get some good rest today after hard days night :)

One last thing I had a look after what you said and then I noticed...

Is that the arm, that they use to shake the x-wing? Gimble arm or what ever it is to create movement?

Ronster said:

adywan said:

(although the wings on the set were actually set to the open position and cut off mid way along the wings)

If what you are saying is the case then the engine is in the wrong position i.e. to high?

Are we talking a different kind of fix? Or just leave it as it is? Either way I am not pushing, I just felt that something was not right with this, and if what you are saying is true for which I believe you are telling us valuable information here about it. Then well I kind of feel like you have Answered very well but also raised a few other questions because the engines pivot up higher in attack (open) position. So even if nothing get's changed with it, it's now better to know a bit more about what is going on.

One last thing I had a look after what you said and then I noticed...

Is that the arm, that they use to shake the x-wing? Gimble arm or what ever it is to create movement?

Ronster, as adywan points out, it seems that Luke's X-Wing 'cockpit' prop did indeed have it's (cut down) wings set in an 'open' position...unlike the full-sized prop seen during the Dagobah swamp scenes.

(something along the lines of these particular behind-the-scenes cockpits, for instance) -

So you're right, that would make the prop 'engine turbines' slightly 'higher' in these shots than they would have been if they had been (correctly) closed when the X-Wing headed down to Dagobah.

But this unfortunately means that the middle 'horizontal' detail of the engine turbines also have an incorrect 'slanted angle' in these shots, because the wings are in the 'open' position. (this image gives a good idea of what I mean) -

(and here's your example pic again, which shows the incorrectly 'angled' engine detail a little better, without being obscured by your red outline) -

It's one of these little things that I've never actually noticed before, and I'm not sure it's something that can be rectified without a lot of additional work.  No biggie in the scheme of things, then.  :)

I also think that the small section you highlighted in your pic above just happens to be part the *lower section* of the engine turbine itself - but the strange thing is that it looks a bit 'thicker' than the top section.  I always thought that the rim of the 'circular' engine turbines was roughly the *same* thickness at the top and bottom...so that might just be down to the prop buiders, as some of their stuff is 'off' compared to the miniature work in a few instances.  On the other hand, the thickness of the top and bottom sections of the engine's 'circular rim' seem to vary when 'googling' various X-Wing images anyway.