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I thought CatBus was about right. It’s tedious to complain about political bogeymen.

The blue elephant in the room.

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Mrebo said:

I thought CatBus was about right. It’s tedious to complain about political bogeymen.

And that is of of the world’s most awesomely terrible tattoos?

Project Threepio (Star Wars OOT subtitles)

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Oh no, hes not racist. He’ll openly admit he loves the music black people used to make (talking about blues…) so be can’t be racist right!?

To be fair to him, though he is an idiot and definitely has stupid politics, I don’t know that he’s racist so much as he just hates “hip hop culture”, which is still dumb and he probably just has started generalizing. At least he didn’t seem to come off as racist before he would talk about things like that. But maybe he is racist and hip hop culture just pushed him to break his silence on it who knows he’s still an idiot.

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Possessed said:

To be fair to him, though he is an idiot and definitely has stupid politics, I don’t know that he’s racist so much as he just hates “hip hop culture”, which is still dumb and he probably just has started generalizing. At least he didn’t seem to come off as racist before he would talk about things like that. But maybe he is racist and hip hop culture just pushed him to break his silence on it who knows he’s still an idiot.

To be fair to him? May not be a racist? Careful what you say around these parts. I don’t know anything about him/his music but he says things that are dumb and inflammatory.

The blue elephant in the room.

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Oh he may well be and it wouldn’t surprise me if he was. He’s definitely an ignorant fool even if he isn’t.

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Ted Nugent, unlike most on his side of the political aisle, at least has the decency of being talented at something. I’ll give him that.

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The stuff I’ve read about his past is pretty icky though. (Presuming it’s true.) I don’t think he’s ever getting in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/07/london-stabbings-300-extra-police-deployed-streets-tackle-spike/

Sounds like it’s all under control over there in the nanny state.

“You could be a mum or dad, big brother, big sister, a friend, a girlfriend, a boyfriend who knows somebody carrying a knife, leaving their home with a knife, involved in criminality - there’s no honour in keeping that a secret,” he said.

“You should try and prevent that person carrying a knife, leaving home with a knife.”

Insanity. “Just disarm yourselves, populace, and don’t worry: the government will keep you safe.”

Addendum:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jul/18/plans-to-make-delivery-of-knives-sold-online-to-private-addresses-illegal-knife-crime

Knives bought online will in future have to be collected in person, with retailers responsible for checking that all buyers are 18 or older. New powers are also proposed for the police to seize banned weapons such as zombie knives, knuckledusters and throwing stars if they are found in someone’s home, and to arrest those involved.

I can’t even wrap my head around the fact that we actually live in a world where things like this are going on. I carry a pocket knife every day because it’s useful in many situations at home or out and about or at work or really anywhere. It’s crazy to think that could be considered a criminal act in some places.

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SilverWook said:

The stuff I’ve read about his past is pretty icky though. (Presuming it’s true.) I don’t think he’s ever getting in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Definitely not in his lifetime. If he were associated with an important enough band then he would, like how Ike Turner got in as part of Ike and Tina Turner or Sid Vicious with the Sex Pistols, but I can’t see that happening with Nugent.

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Tyrphanax said:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/07/london-stabbings-300-extra-police-deployed-streets-tackle-spike/

Sounds like it’s all under control over there in the nanny state.

“You could be a mum or dad, big brother, big sister, a friend, a girlfriend, a boyfriend who knows somebody carrying a knife, leaving their home with a knife, involved in criminality - there’s no honour in keeping that a secret,” he said.

“You should try and prevent that person carrying a knife, leaving home with a knife.”

Insanity. “Just disarm yourselves, populace, and don’t worry: the government will keep you safe.”

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jul/18/plans-to-make-delivery-of-knives-sold-online-to-private-addresses-illegal-knife-crime

Knives bought online will in future have to be collected in person, with retailers responsible for checking that all buyers are 18 or older. New powers are also proposed for the police to seize banned weapons such as zombie knives, knuckledusters and throwing stars if they are found in someone’s home, and to arrest those involved.

I can’t even wrap my head around the fact that we actually live in a world where things like this are going on. I carry a pocket knife every day because it’s useful in many situations at home or out and about or at work or really anywhere. It’s crazy to think that could be considered a criminal act in some places.

Yeah, this is all an overreaction.

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England, I mourn for your spirit.

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What if I’m a construction worker and forget to take off my toolbelt when I go on break to get lunch. Is my phillips-head screwdriver really that threatening? This is truly a case where if people want to hurt someone, they’ll do it. We can’t sacrifice daily items like kitchen knives, pocket knives, screwdrivers, etc. just because they can be used for violence. I mean, shit you could probably beat a guy to death with a Sunday New York Times if you really cared enough. (line stolen from George Carlin)

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moviefreakedmind said:

What if I’m a construction worker and forget to take off my toolbelt when I go on break to get lunch. Is my phillips-head screwdriver really that threatening? This is truly a case where if people want to hurt someone, they’ll do it. We can’t sacrifice daily items like kitchen knives, pocket knives, screwdrivers, etc. just because they can be used for violence. I mean, shit you could probably beat a guy to death with a Sunday New York Times if you really cared enough. (line stolen from George Carlin)

It’s not exactly that bad, but it’s still ridiculous and smells suspiciously like a slippery slope to me.

https://www.police.uk/crime-prevention-advice/possession-of-weapons/

Knives

It is illegal to:

  • sell a knife of any kind to anyone under 18 years old (16 to 18 year olds in Scotland can buy cutlery and kitchen knives)
  • carry a knife in public without good reason - unless it’s a knife with a folding blade 3 inches long (7.62 cm) or less, e.g. a Swiss Army knife (a “lock knife” does not come into the category of “folding pocket knife” because it is not immediately foldable at all times)
  • carry, buy or sell any type of banned knife
  • use any knife in a threatening way (including a legal knife, such as a Swiss Army knife)

Good reasons for carrying a knife

Examples of good reasons to carry a knife in public can include:

  • taking knives you use at work to and from work
  • taking knives to a gallery or museum to be exhibited
  • the knife is going to be used for theatre, film, television, historical reenactment or religious purposes, e.g. the kirpan some Sikhs carry

A court will decide if you’ve got a good reason to carry a knife if you’re charged with carrying it illegally.

Banned knives

Examples of knives that are completely banned are:

  • disguised knife
  • stealth knife & baton
  • sword
  • zombie knife

This is not a complete list of banned knives and weapons. Contact your local police to check if a knife or weapon is illegal.

The idea that you can get popped and have to convince a court that you had a good reason to be carrying a knife sounds really uncool to me.

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Is that for real? And why is Cookie Monster associated with this? I have a hard time believing the Sesame Street folks signed off on that.

George Carlin also pointed out you can use a the sharp edge of a sheet of paper as a weapon.

Is this next?

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That’s not too bad. I don’t mind people having to be 18 (or 16) to buy knives, especially since you have to be seventeen to buy your own ticket to certain movies, but the others seem a little much to me.

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SilverWook said:

George Carlin also pointed out you can use a the sharp edge of a sheet of paper as a weapon.

I love that man. By the way, this is actually the third time that I’ve quoted Carlin’s line on the New York Times and this is the third time you’ve reminded me that he pointed out that a sheet of paper could be a weapon. 😃

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Third time’s the charm! 😛

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If Swiss Army type knives are allowed, I don’t see what the problem is. I can’t think of a single good reason to be carrying a knife besides those listed. Honestly I’m struggling to find what’s wrong with anything in that law.

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DominicCobb said:

If Swiss Army type knives are allowed, I don’t see what the problem is. I can’t think of a single good reason to be carrying a knife besides those listed. Honestly I’m struggling to find what’s wrong with anything in that law.

The main problem I see is that there is no clear and universal definition for a “disguised knife.” What about a switch-blade? I own one of those.

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moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

If Swiss Army type knives are allowed, I don’t see what the problem is. I can’t think of a single good reason to be carrying a knife besides those listed. Honestly I’m struggling to find what’s wrong with anything in that law.

The main problem I see is that there is no clear and universal definition for a “disguised knife.” What about a switch-blade? I own one of those.

I’d imagine so. It’s illegal in a lot of states here too.

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Isn’t that interesting? I don’t hear any uproar from second-amendment activists over that.

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