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He asked a question, I answered it.
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo — Page 512
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It’s like you want it posted again
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*sigh*
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While I’m generally pleased about how the Dems fared this year in Virginia, this interesting stat stands out:
Democratic candidates won 54.8 percent of all votes that were cast for one of the two major parties
The Democrats beat the Republicans by almost ten points in the House popular vote. And that was almost enough to get half the seats in the VA House of Delegates, but not quite. For all the laughing about how the Republican gerrymander was so stupidly aggressive that it made them vulnerable to waves, the gerrymander held. It worked. And as long as there’s not an insane Democratic wave every year, the Republicans will be sailing back to a veto-proof majority in a state they simply can’t win anymore in terms of votes.
If I were a Republican strategist, I’d look at Virginia as a success. And a roadmap for the future. Drawing maps may be hard, but it’s easier than winning.
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With all due respect to people’s religions, it irks me when politicians tell me that I need to pray. I’m not religious, and we are supposedly in a country that values separation of church and state. Yet every time some catastrophe happens, the first thing politicians tell us is that we need to pray. Not “pray if you’re religious”, but “we need to pray”. While I don’t mind if people want to pray, I don’t appreciate politicians telling me that I need to become religious.
It’s not a big deal, it just irks me. I realize I’m probably in an extreme minority.
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With all due respect to people’s religions, it irks me when politicians tell me that I need to pray. I’m not religious, and we are supposedly in a country that values separation of church and state. Yet every time some catastrophe happens, the first thing politicians tell us is that we need to pray. Not “pray if you’re religious”, but “we need to pray”. While I don’t mind if people want to pray, I don’t appreciate politicians telling me that I need to become religious.
It’s not a big deal, it just irks me. I realize I’m probably in an extreme minority.
It irks me too, and I am religious!
It is a simple placating response that doesn’t mean anything, yet religious people eat it up and keep voting. Nevermind that these same politicians might be voting in ways that very well could have contributed to the thing they ate promising to pray for.
That is what pisses me off when I hear politicians respond with “I am praying for them”. Snakes the lot of them. Leave the praying for the people and their families, friends, priests, and pastors. You are a legislator, Legislate!
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Why do people act like its either do one or the other? One can pray AND legislate.
Complain about them not legislating. Whether they are praying or not, has nothing to do about it.
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With all due respect to people’s religions, it irks me when politicians tell me that I need to pray. I’m not religious, and we are supposedly in a country that values separation of church and state. Yet every time some catastrophe happens, the first thing politicians tell us is that we need to pray. Not “pray if you’re religious”, but “we need to pray”. While I don’t mind if people want to pray, I don’t appreciate politicians telling me that I need to become religious.
It’s not a big deal, it just irks me. I realize I’m probably in an extreme minority.
The problem is, “Pray if you’re religious”, might not play well to the Bible belt, so they just say “pray”. They probably figure that most people won’t take it as them saying you need to become religious.
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You know, it irks me that politicians wear ties. Leave the tie wearing to other people. You’re legislators, Legislate!
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He didn’t say it bothered him when politicians pray.
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Why do people act like its either do one or the other? One can pray AND legislate.
Complain about them not legislating. Whether they are praying or not, has nothing to do about it.
they can do both! but it pisses me off when they only do ONE OF THEM. They should lead with doing the thing they were elected to do. and if they want to also pray, go for it.
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I don’t care if politicians pray - they have that religious freedom. But let’s look at gun legislation… first the republicans say that existing laws should be enforced rather than enacting new laws. I’d agree with them, except that they are simultaneously gutting the agencies responsible for enforcing those laws. Instead, Paul Ryan says we should pray because “prayer works”. Well, he might believe that, but there is absolutely no evidence that prayer works. In fact, every single scientific study ever done has concluded that prayer does nothing. So when the politicians do things that demonstrably make the laws weaker, while asking us to do something religious and that doesn’t do anything, it shows me that they have absolutely no interest in solving the problem.
Of course, the reason has nothing to do with their faith, and everything to do with the votes they receive from evangelicals, and even more so the money they are receiving from gun lobbies.
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He didn’t say it bothered him when politicians pray.
With all due respect to people’s religions, it irks me when politicians tell me that I need to pray.
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Why do people act like its either do one or the other? One can pray AND legislate.
Complain about them not legislating. Whether they are praying or not, has nothing to do about it.
they can do both! but it pisses me off when they only do ONE OF THEM.
Then complain about the one they don’t do, instead of complaing about the praying or asking for prayer.
They should lead with doing the thing they were elected to do. and if they want to also pray, go for it.
Well sometimes, these things happen on Sunday or some other time when Congress isn’t in session. When that happens, it makes sense to lead off with prayer. Also many religious people would argue that prayer is the first thing you should do.
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He didn’t say it bothered him when politicians pray.
With all due respect to people’s religions, it irks me when politicians tell me that I need to pray.
He said it irks him when politicians tell him to pray, not when politicians themseleves pray.
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Why do people act like its either do one or the other? One can pray AND legislate.
Warbler, I think the point is the politicians are being disingenuous about prayer. They shouldn’t call for prayer if their actions speak to the fact that they don’t actually care to offer more than lip service.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
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There is nothing wrong with our leaders playing the violin… as long they are also providing adequate fire-fighting services and fire-safety legislation.
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I don’t care if politicians pray - they have that religious freedom. But let’s look at gun legislation… first the republicans say that existing laws should be enforced rather than enacting new laws. I’d agree with them, except that they are simultaneously gutting the agencies responsible for enforcing those laws. Instead, Paul Ryan says we should pray because “prayer works”. Well, he might believe that, but there is absolutely no evidence that prayer works. In fact, every single scientific study ever done has concluded that prayer does nothing. So when the politicians do things that demonstrably make the laws weaker, while asking us to do something religious and that doesn’t do anything, it shows me that they have absolutely no interest in solving the problem.
Of course, the reason has nothing to do with their faith, and everything to do with the votes they receive from evangelicals, and even more so the money they are receiving from gun lobbies.
I’ve said it before and I will say it again, criticize them for what do/don’t do about guns. Don’t criticize the asking for prayer. Heck, criticize the reason for them asking for prayer if yoy honestly think it has to do with votes and not faith. As long as it is worded clearly criticize them if they act like asking for prayer is enough, or if they use prayer to mask their lack of doing anything about guns. Just do criticize the praying or asking for prayer itself.
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criticize them if they act like asking for prayer is enough, or if they use prayer to mask their lack of doing anything about guns
That’s what Wheaton was doing.
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He didn’t say it bothered him when politicians pray.
With all due respect to people’s religions, it irks me when politicians tell me that I need to pray.
He said it irks him when politicians tell him to pray, not when politicians themseleves pray.
Do politicians spefically tell him to pray? When they that, they mean it in general. Obviously the non-religous can disregard.
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He didn’t say it bothered him when politicians pray.
With all due respect to people’s religions, it irks me when politicians tell me that I need to pray.
He said it irks him when politicians tell him to pray, not when politicians themseleves pray.
was just about to post this.
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criticize them if they act like asking for prayer is enough, or if they use prayer to mask their lack of doing anything about guns
That’s what Wheaton was doing.
Didn’t sound that way to me.
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But again, I criticize the insincerity; the disingenuousness. That they likely use a call to prayer to gain popularity with people of faith than actually being genuine in their own faith.
My dad always said he doesn’t like people putting a cross or an ichthus on their business cards or marketing materials, because it is not clear that they aren’t just using it disingenuously to drum up sales.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
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There is nothing wrong with our leaders playing the violin… as long they are also providing adequate fire-fighting services and fire-safety legislation.
True, but if they don’t provide adequate fire-fighting services and fire-safety legislation, criticize them for that, not playing the violin.
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There is nothing wrong with our leaders playing the violin… as long they are also providing adequate fire-fighting services and fire-safety legislation.
True, but if they don’t provide adequate fire-fighting services and fire-safety legislation, criticize them for that, not playing the violin.
Why not both? If they don’t actually play the violin but are instead pretending to make the crowd like them better?
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.