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What if it’s a black Arabian horse?

(Sarcastic Question was Sarcastic)

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Jeebus said:

Here’s a short 2 and a half minute Youtube video that’s relevant and informative.

This timeline shows confederate monuments are about racial conflict

For those of you that don’t want to watch (of course, some of it is meaningless without having watched the video for the full context);

This makes it pretty clear that these monuments weren’t just trying to ‘celebrate history and honor the noble Confederacy.’ They were erected to scare and intimidate black people, plain and simple.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/6umym5/when_perusing_wikipedias_list_of_confederate/

I found this thread to be incredibly informative on the subject. All of Georgy_K_Zhukov’s posts about it are worth reading.

Keep Circulating the Tapes.

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DominicCobb said:

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That’s as ridiculous as comparing taking down a Confederate statue and the Jefferson monument. Give me a break.

why is it ridiculous? Jefferson was a slave owner. People argue the Confederates were traitors. Guess what England thought of Washington, Jefferson, Franklin and John Adams in the 1760’s? I guarantee you they thought of them as traitors.

What country do we live in again?

I don’t know about you, but I live in America.

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TV’s Frink said:

When black and white men are being sold to black and white men.

fixed for accuracy.

Doesn’t matter if it’s pretend or pretend football or pretend pretend football or if there’s also white men being pretend sold. Your other examples are ridiculous. No one thinks “black slavery!” when a horse is bought at auction.

What about a charity auction where the highest bid gets a date with an eligible bachelor/bachelorette?

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Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

That’s as ridiculous as comparing taking down a Confederate statue and the Jefferson monument. Give me a break.

why is it ridiculous? Jefferson was a slave owner. People argue the Confederates were traitors. Guess what England thought of Washington, Jefferson, Franklin and John Adams in the 1760’s? I guarantee you they thought of them as traitors.

What country do we live in again?

I don’t know about you, but I live in America.

So why would you care what England considers traitors? And why don’t you care what we do?

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Tyrphanax said:

Jeebus said:

Here’s a short 2 and a half minute Youtube video that’s relevant and informative.

This timeline shows confederate monuments are about racial conflict

For those of you that don’t want to watch (of course, some of it is meaningless without having watched the video for the full context);

This makes it pretty clear that these monuments weren’t just trying to ‘celebrate history and honor the noble Confederacy.’ They were erected to scare and intimidate black people, plain and simple.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/6umym5/when_perusing_wikipedias_list_of_confederate/

I found this thread to be incredibly informative on the subject. All of Georgy_K_Zhukov’s posts about it are worth reading.

Very interesting read. I’m actually subbed there, but I must’ve missed that post, so I’m glad you pointed it out. There does seem to be a very clear shift from honoring fallen soldiers to wholesale romanticization of the Confederacy. Personally, I have no problem with solemnly honoring the fallen soldiers, but I think it’s wrong to try and honor the Confederacy as a whole. Whether the war was fought solely over slavery, or slavery was just one aspect of an overall disconnect between the North and the South; it can’t be denied that slavery did play a part in the war, and the Confederacy was on the wrong side of that issue.

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Jeebus said:

Tyrphanax said:

Jeebus said:

Here’s a short 2 and a half minute Youtube video that’s relevant and informative.

This timeline shows confederate monuments are about racial conflict

For those of you that don’t want to watch (of course, some of it is meaningless without having watched the video for the full context);

This makes it pretty clear that these monuments weren’t just trying to ‘celebrate history and honor the noble Confederacy.’ They were erected to scare and intimidate black people, plain and simple.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/6umym5/when_perusing_wikipedias_list_of_confederate/

I found this thread to be incredibly informative on the subject. All of Georgy_K_Zhukov’s posts about it are worth reading.

Very interesting read. I’m actually subbed there, but I must’ve missed that post, so I’m glad you pointed it out. There does seem to be a very clear shift from honoring fallen soldiers to wholesale romanticization of the Confederacy. Personally, I have no problem with solemnly honoring the fallen soldiers, but I think it’s wrong to try and honor the Confederacy as a whole. Whether the war was fought solely over slavery, or slavery was just one aspect of an overall disconnect between the North and the South; it can’t be denied that slavery did play a part in the war, and the Confederacy was on the wrong side of that issue.

I definitely agree.

Keep Circulating the Tapes.

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Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

When black and white men are being sold to black and white men.

fixed for accuracy.

Doesn’t really matter if the people being “sold” include people of other races. The imagery of a black person being auctioned off in and of itself is the problem. If the ad had been entirely white players, it wouldn’t have been an issue.

None of your other examples involve a human of a minority race with a history of being sold as slaves. Auctions themselves aren’t the issue.

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Rock bottom, we have hit.

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Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

When black and white men are being sold to black and white men.

fixed for accuracy.

Doesn’t matter if it’s pretend or pretend football or pretend pretend football or if there’s also white men being pretend sold. Your other examples are ridiculous. No one thinks “black slavery!” when a horse is bought at auction.

What about a charity auction where the highest bid gets a date with an eligible bachelor/bachelorette?

What the literally fungus. Unless the xgaity auction is ncluds actually slavery, I don’t nderstand your question.

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dahmage said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

When black and white men are being sold to black and white men.

fixed for accuracy.

Doesn’t matter if it’s pretend or pretend football or pretend pretend football or if there’s also white men being pretend sold. Your other examples are ridiculous. No one thinks “black slavery!” when a horse is bought at auction.

What about a charity auction where the highest bid gets a date with an eligible bachelor/bachelorette?

What the literally fungus. Unless the xgaity auction is ncluds actually slavery, I don’t nderstand your question.

Go home you’re drunk.

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TV’s Frink said:

dahmage said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

When black and white men are being sold to black and white men.

fixed for accuracy.

Doesn’t matter if it’s pretend or pretend football or pretend pretend football or if there’s also white men being pretend sold. Your other examples are ridiculous. No one thinks “black slavery!” when a horse is bought at auction.

What about a charity auction where the highest bid gets a date with an eligible bachelor/bachelorette?

What the literally fungus. Unless the xgaity auction is ncluds actually slavery, I don’t nderstand your question.

Go home you’re drunk.

It’s true, all of it.

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ChainsawAsh said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

When black and white men are being sold to black and white men.

fixed for accuracy.

Doesn’t really matter if the people being “sold” include people of other races. The imagery of a black person being auctioned off in and of itself is the problem. If the ad had been entirely white players, it wouldn’t have been an issue.

None of your other examples involve a human of a minority race with a history of being sold as slaves. Auctions themselves aren’t the issue.

Hate to be that guy, but technically all races have been sold as slaves at SOME point. I agree that it is a harmful image to have black people auctioned. But not because they are black. But because racial tensions towards black people are still (at least) moderately high, and not enough time had passed. Hopefully as more time passes racial tensions will be a thing of the past and this sort of thing will be seen as what it honestly is, an innocent game, but for now, and rightly so, it’s still a sensitive subject.

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You’re not wrong. I was speaking from an American history standpoint, not a global one.

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Silly redundant computers. “Source code programming” is akin to “ATM machine.”

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If only Bobcat Goldthwait would join in on this discussion. Then this thread would be complete.

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In Tucker “Bowtie” Carlson news, there’s this:

https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/901465286200750080

@TuckerCarlson: “If the [@NFL] owners are racist, why are 70% of their employees black?”

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/901441758206324736/pl/2nuzbbjThEt1eY2H.m3u8

And in other news of Antifa and punching Nazis, I want to ask a couple of questions: Is it okay to be violent when protesting against white supremacists?

Is it okay to kill them?

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yhwx said:

Silly redundant computers. “Source code programming” is akin to “ATM machine.”

JUST BECAUSE WE USE HUMAN WORDS IT DOESNT MEAN WERE TALKING A LANGUAGE YOU CAN UNDERSTAND