logo Sign In

Ranking the Batman films — Page 21

Author
Time
Post link

TV’s Frink said:

I don’t understand the problem with changing the race of a fictional character. The race was made up to begin with.

This is true, but sometimes a person’s emotions can be invested in even the appearance of a character. It is not just about race and can be about something as simple as hair color. Heck, how many people complained about Jesse Eisenberg’s portrayal of Lex Luthor, and he was also white? Saying it was just his twitchy behavior doesn’t alone account for it, I don’t believe. He didn’t look the part, and even if he’d portrayed a much more sane version, he still would be difficult to accept as Lex. Similarly, if someone were to take Storm from X-men and make her white, it would be a massive challenge to accept the change. I can’t imagine anyone would be pleased with such a change.

That said, I do not believe changes are always difficult. Like I said, I thought Billy Dee Williams was a great Harvey Dent and really would have loved to see his Two Face. While Daredevil (2003) was not a great movie, I thought Michael Clarke Duncan was amazingly well suited to play The Kingpin.

It does not automatically make one racist to be invested in consistency in a character’s appearance across different media.

Author
Time
Post link

Possessed said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

I don’t care what the reaction to a black Superman would be, there’s no reason it couldn’t work.

It wouldn’t work and everyone knows it.

Don’t get in a wad, I’m just joking.

People are saying it won’t work and everyone knows it.

Author
Time
 (Edited)
Post link

darth_ender said:

TV’s Frink said:

I don’t understand the problem with changing the race of a fictional character. The race was made up to begin with.

This is true, but sometimes a person’s emotions can be invested in even the appearance of a character. It is not just about race and can be about something as simple as hair color. Heck, how many people complained about Jesse Eisenberg’s portrayal of Lex Luthor, and he was also white? Saying it was just his twitchy behavior doesn’t alone account for it, I don’t believe. He didn’t look the part, and even if he’d portrayed a much more sane version, he still would be difficult to accept as Lex. Similarly, if someone were to take Storm from X-men and make her white, it would be a massive challenge to accept the change. I can’t imagine anyone would be pleased with such a change.

That said, I do not believe changes are always difficult. Like I said, I thought Billy Dee Williams was a great Harvey Dent and really would have loved to see his Two Face. While Daredevil (2003) was not a great movie, I thought Michael Clarke Duncan was amazingly well suited to play The Kingpin.

It does not automatically make one racist to be invested in consistency in a character’s appearance across different media.

I agree that it doesn’t automatically make on racist and I get that people get invested in the appearance of a character. Still don’t think there’s a terribly good reason for getting upset about a new appearance for an old character in a new version of a series.

Author
Time
Post link

Comic book fans take continuity to a whole other level, so when an actor is cast in an important role and they differ in some way or do not fit the bill, comic fans generally freak out. Batfleck is the most recent example which comes to my mind…but Keaton faced the same outcry when he dawned the cowl.

Author
Time
Post link

Comic book fans take continuity to a whole other level, so when an actor is cast in an important role and they differ in some way or do not fit the bill, comic fans generally freak out. Batfleck is the most recent example which comes to my mind…but Keaton faced the same outcry when he dawned the cowl.

Author
Time
Post link

Comic book fans take continuity to a whole other level, so when an actor is cast in an important role and they differ in some way or do not fit the bill, comic fans generally freak out. Batfleck is the most recent example which comes to my mind…but Keaton faced the same outcry when he dawned the cowl.

Author
Time
Post link

My take on the whole thing, a Batman casting is only as good as the script. Like one69chev stated, Keaton got a lot of negative feedback. Imagine if social media had existed back then. People were so mad that Mr. Mom was playing Batman…even the studio wasn’t too keen on the idea, but Burton believed in him, and I’m so glad it happened. The only time since that anything like that has happened is when Chris Pratt, a goofy overweight guy, becomes the new blockbuster man. I miss action stars that could be goofy. Bruce Willis, Harrison Ford, and Mel Gibson were downright hilarious at times.

I would’ve liked to have seen Billy Dee William’s take on Two-Face. I don’t know if his transformation would’ve topped the 2 part episode from the Animated Series. Maybe with Tim Burton’s direction, it could’ve worked.

I’ve often wondered about whether Tim Burton’s Superman film would’ve been good, because all the concept art and casting choices look iffy to my eyes. Nicholas Cage would’ve been fun to watch, but I don’t know if I could ever see him as Superman.

With Tim Burton you never know what you’re going to get. I think he was going in an interesting direction with Batman, and then Schumacher came in and derailed that train. Schumacher is another one that you never know what you’re going to get, but Burton’s poorer offerings are still well crafted and watchable. I still don’t like most of his choices in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, but I don’t completely hate the movie. The Oompa Loompas fall into Jar Jar territory for me. Lacking the charm the 70s versions had, but I digress…

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

<span> </span>

Author
Time
Post link

EyeShotFirst said:

With Tim Burton you never know what you’re going to get. I think he was going in an interesting direction with Batman, and then Schumacher came in and derailed that train. Schumacher is another one that you never know what you’re going to get, but Burton’s poorer offerings are still well crafted and watchable. I still don’t like most of his choices in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, but I don’t completely hate the movie. The Oompa Loompas fall into Jar Jar territory for me. Lacking the charm the 70s versions had, but I digress…

Burton should be shot for “Charlie and the Chocolate Factory”. Johnny Depp as Willy Wonka??? “P-P-Parents”?? Fortunately, there already existed a good film of the book.

Author
Time
Post link

Burton’s Wonka movie was surprisingly good. And I like the original too.

Author
Time
Post link

Mid-afternoon seems a little early, don’t ya think?

Author
Time
Post link

Impscum sock confirmed.

Author
Time
Post link

I’m not saying mine are correct, they’re just opinions.

Author
Time
Post link

That post wasn’t referring to you.

Author
Time
 (Edited)
Post link

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Burton’s Wonka movie was surprisingly good. And I like the original too.

You’re drunk again.

You seem to think your opinions on movies are the correct ones.

People usually think their opinions are correct or they wouldn’t be their opinions.

Tell me something, what would you say I said that TPM is better than ESB? I am willing to be you’d think there was something wrong with me.

Author
Time
 (Edited)
Post link

Y’all are both being ridiculous.

JEDIT: On further reflection, maybe not.