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darth_ender said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Please ignore anything I have said because it seems I’m invisible and even if I weren’t I’d probably be reminded that I still don’t know what the hell I’m talking about. I’m one of the few that need to suffer and I’m okay with that.

Anyways, I do hope that those of you having some difficulties do find avenues for assistance, including coming here if you need to.

Stay optimistic and don’t give up. I don’t and I won’t.

There’s no need for this kind of chat. No one excluded you in any way, and you seem to forget the good feedback you get all to easily. You’re a good guy. Doesn’t mean I won’t call you out when I disagree, but that doesn’t make you a bad guy. You too are worthwhile.

Let me just say, I wasn’t trying to be mean or be crappy. I was trying to show those having trouble that they are not alone even though they are younger than myself. Your response shows how it can happen. I’m not dogging you for your response either. Combined with my post it demonstrates openly that we are all vulnerable, even in a safe space, but we can all rise above.

I appreciate your words, and I wasn’t trying to hide my intention, but it was the only way to let them know we really do understand because we go through it ourselves. And that is why we are willing to share our support for them.

I’m not angry or upset, I hope you aren’t either.

😃

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Mike O said:

Really wish after all the kindness offered to me, I could offer up some good advice to all the other suffering people in their thread, but sadly, I can only offer empathy and hopes that everything will work out for the best. That feels sadly hollow, though. If I weren’t having a crippling crisis of losing faith, I may offer some prayers. Lots of love, and hope you guys figure things out.

Your faith in yourself needs to be healed before your faith in other things can follow. We will do what we can to help.

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I will admit that the “music” of this generation is not my cup of tea but you all have a few artists that have created songs that define it. One in particular is one with lyrics I want to dedicate to you. You may not like the artist or their style of music but it’s the words written and the passion in which they’re released that are most important. They say something that all of us should be able to see and feel in ourselves while passing it on to our own children and others around us.

Sappiness rant over. Take it for what it’s worth to you. NO crappy responses, please.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGJuMBdaqIw

Katy Perry: Firework

Do you ever feel like a plastic bag
Drifting thought the wind
Wanting to start again

Do you ever feel, feel so paper thin
Like a house of cards
One blow from caving in

Do you ever feel already buried deep
Six feet under scream
But no one seems to hear a thing

Do you know that there’s still a chance for you
’Cause there’s a spark in you

You just gotta ignite the light
And let it shine
Just own the night
Like the Fourth of July

'Cause baby you’re a firework
Come on show 'em what your worth
Make 'em go "Oh, oh, oh!"
As you shoot across the sky-y-y

Baby you’re a firework
Come on let your colors burst
Make 'em go "Oh, oh, oh!"
You’re gonna leave ‘em fallin’ down down down

You don’t have to feel like a waste of space
You’re original, cannot be replaced
If you only knew what the future holds
After a hurricane comes a rainbow

Maybe a reason why all the doors are closed
So you can open one that leads you to the perfect road
Like a lightning bolt, your heart will glow
And when it’s time, you’ll know

You just gotta ignite the light
And let it shine
Just own the night
Like the Fourth of July

'Cause baby you’re a firework
Come on show 'em what your worth
Make 'em go "Oh, oh, oh!"
As you shoot across the sky-y-y

Baby you’re a firework
Come on let your colors burst
Make 'em go "Oh, oh, oh!"
You’re gonna leave ‘em fallin’ down down down

Boom, boom, boom
Even brighter than the moon, moon, moon
It’s always been inside of you, you, you
And now it’s time to let it through

'Cause baby you’re a firework
Come on show 'em what your worth
Make 'em go "Oh, oh, oh!"
As you shoot across the sky-y-y

Baby you’re a firework
Come on let your colors burst
Make 'em go "Oh, oh, oh!"
You’re gonna leave ‘em fallin’ down down down
Boom, boom, boom
Even brighter than the moon, moon, moon
Boom, boom, boom
Even brighter than the moon, moon, moon

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suspiciouscoffee said:

Thanks everyone for being so nice and trying to help me. I’m currently in a situation that would make seeking professional help impossible, so you guys and a handful of real-world friends are all I’ve got. I don’t deserve any of you. Thank you.

EDIT: Husezni, if you have advice, even if it’s contrary to everyone else’s, you’re welcome to share it. I didn’t make my post to start debates among people trying to help me, no matter how wrong you think they are. So if you have ideas for solutions to my problem, tell me, because arguing with Ender, or anyone else, is pointless for all involved.

I just find CLARITY where there was muddle to be supportive and comforting.

The Powers That Be have spent many centuries deliberately creating muddle confusion and error where it should be simple.

Underneath it all, people KNOW.

Everyone with at least three functioning brain cells comes equipped with the ability to readily recognize Truth and the right Way. TPTB try mightily to interfere and prevent realization. Above all, they try to create characters who try to substitute their own sick nonsense and as much as half-believe that it is truth.

I would urge anyone to develop the habit of carefully examining questions with great skepticism for any position the enlightened people insist must be accepted as their own Moral Narcissist gospel. If they tell us the sky is blue, we should all walk outside and gaze upwards carefully considering for some time.

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thejediknighthusezni said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Thanks everyone for being so nice and trying to help me. I’m currently in a situation that would make seeking professional help impossible, so you guys and a handful of real-world friends are all I’ve got. I don’t deserve any of you. Thank you.

EDIT: Husezni, if you have advice, even if it’s contrary to everyone else’s, you’re welcome to share it. I didn’t make my post to start debates among people trying to help me, no matter how wrong you think they are. So if you have ideas for solutions to my problem, tell me, because arguing with Ender, or anyone else, is pointless for all involved.

I just find CLARITY where there was muddle to be supportive and comforting.

The Powers That Be have spent many centuries deliberately creating muddle confusion and error where it should be simple.

Underneath it all, people KNOW.

Everyone with at least three functioning brain cells comes equipped with the ability to readily recognize Truth and the right Way. TPTB try mightily to interfere and prevent realization. Above all, they try to create characters who try to substitute their own sick nonsense and as much as half-believe that it is Truth.

I would urge anyone to develop the habit of carefully examining questions with great skepticism for any position the enlightened people insist must be accepted as their own Moral Narcissist gospel. If they tell us the sky is blue, we should all walk outside and gaze upwards carefully considering for some time.

and I would urge to take this debate to another thread. It doesn’t belong here.

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I don’t believe they’re debating it warbler. I believe husezni is speaking in layman’s terms to explain what had been posted and coffee encouraged the sharing of opinions even if they weren’t the same as others.

This is just how I am seeing it though. I could very well be wrong.

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Jetrell Fo said:

I don’t believe they’re debating it warbler. I believe husezni is speaking in layman’s terms to explain what had been posted and coffee encouraged the sharing of opinions even if they weren’t the same as others.

This is just how I am seeing it though. I could very well be wrong.

whatever you want to call it, it doesn’t belong here in this thread.

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suspiciouscoffee said:

Jetrell Fo said:

I don’t believe they’re debating it warbler. I believe husezni is speaking in layman’s terms to explain what had been posted and coffee encouraged the sharing of opinions even if they weren’t the same as others.

This is just how I am seeing it though. I could very well be wrong.

I encouraged him to give advice actually pertaining to my situation if he could, (even if it was just how many volts of electricity I should subject myself to). Instead, it seems he decided to defend himself and/or offer completely irrelevant advice about questioning everything. ¯\ _(ツ)_/¯

I meant to convey what is very often forgotten. Solving a problem requires clarity and freedom from deception and deceivers.

I’ll review your post and see if I have anything more specific.

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suspiciouscoffee said:

Jetrell Fo said:

I don’t believe they’re debating it warbler. I believe husezni is speaking in layman’s terms to explain what had been posted and coffee encouraged the sharing of opinions even if they weren’t the same as others.

This is just how I am seeing it though. I could very well be wrong.

I encouraged him to give advice actually pertaining to my situation if he could, (even if it was just how many volts of electricity I should subject myself to). Instead, it seems he decided to defend himself and/or offer completely irrelevant advice about questioning everything. ¯\ _(ツ)_/¯

It is the unfortunate side effect of one too many unkind jabs. I mean he did stray but when someone always gets dissed by folks defense mode tends to become the only mode. Maybe he looks for it, maybe he doesn’t. Maybe he too has some things going wrong in his life that affect him and it shows in his posts. I don’t know, I’m not a licensed physician of any kind, so I can only guess. He will most certainly be judged here which isn’t helpful but will happen whether he wants it or not.

I hope things start going better for him.

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suspiciouscoffee said:

Jetrell Fo said:

I don’t believe they’re debating it warbler. I believe husezni is speaking in layman’s terms to explain what had been posted and coffee encouraged the sharing of opinions even if they weren’t the same as others.

This is just how I am seeing it though. I could very well be wrong.

I encouraged him to give advice actually pertaining to my situation if he could, (even if it was just how many volts of electricity I should subject myself to). Instead, it seems he decided to defend himself and/or offer completely irrelevant advice about questioning everything. ¯\ _(ツ)_/¯

Fearing God.
For a long time I felt great fear of our Creator and what He might do or allow to be done to us.

I found the realization that True Law must logically exist, whether or not God upholds it, to be greatly liberating. We then are bound to the Logos. If our Creator upholds It, we must be faithful to our Maker, as It is an aspect of His being. If he betrays, he’s not worthy of our faith.

What to do? Honestly seek Truth and Law with the confidence that underneath everything, we are able to distinguish. Feel greatly grieved when we fail.

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thejediknighthusezni said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Jetrell Fo said:

I don’t believe they’re debating it warbler. I believe husezni is speaking in layman’s terms to explain what had been posted and coffee encouraged the sharing of opinions even if they weren’t the same as others.

This is just how I am seeing it though. I could very well be wrong.

I encouraged him to give advice actually pertaining to my situation if he could, (even if it was just how many volts of electricity I should subject myself to). Instead, it seems he decided to defend himself and/or offer completely irrelevant advice about questioning everything. ¯\ _(ツ)_/¯

I meant to convey what is very often forgotten. Solving a problem requires clarity and freedom from deception and deceivers.

Deception from people like you with twisted views on the world and how people should hate themselves so they more closely align with those views?

Other than you, everyone else giving advice is doing so from the perspective of what would be best for coffee, not for their “morally narcissistic” views.

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DominicCobb said:

thejediknighthusezni said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Jetrell Fo said:

I don’t believe they’re debating it warbler. I believe husezni is speaking in layman’s terms to explain what had been posted and coffee encouraged the sharing of opinions even if they weren’t the same as others.

This is just how I am seeing it though. I could very well be wrong.

I encouraged him to give advice actually pertaining to my situation if he could, (even if it was just how many volts of electricity I should subject myself to). Instead, it seems he decided to defend himself and/or offer completely irrelevant advice about questioning everything. ¯\ _(ツ)_/¯

I meant to convey what is very often forgotten. Solving a problem requires clarity and freedom from deception and deceivers.

Deception from people like you with twisted views on the world and how people should hate themselves so they more closely align with those views?

Other than you, everyone else giving advice is doing so from the perspective of what would be best for coffee, not for their “morally narcissistic” views.

I’ve deliberately avoided specific advice in this matter to encourage the pursuit of what Coffee knows to be True.

Hatred for one’s self is most often an indication that one is not standing with honesty or courage for Truth. The psychopathic solution to this dilemma is to jettison Truth and pretend to believe in “truth” invented by twisted Moral Narcissists.

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thejediknighthusezni said:

DominicCobb said:

thejediknighthusezni said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Jetrell Fo said:

I don’t believe they’re debating it warbler. I believe husezni is speaking in layman’s terms to explain what had been posted and coffee encouraged the sharing of opinions even if they weren’t the same as others.

This is just how I am seeing it though. I could very well be wrong.

I encouraged him to give advice actually pertaining to my situation if he could, (even if it was just how many volts of electricity I should subject myself to). Instead, it seems he decided to defend himself and/or offer completely irrelevant advice about questioning everything. ¯\ _(ツ)_/¯

I meant to convey what is very often forgotten. Solving a problem requires clarity and freedom from deception and deceivers.

Deception from people like you with twisted views on the world and how people should hate themselves so they more closely align with those views?

Other than you, everyone else giving advice is doing so from the perspective of what would be best for coffee, not for their “morally narcissistic” views.

I’ve deliberately avoided specific advice in this matter to encourage the pursuit of what Coffee knows to be True.

Hatred for one’s self is most often an indication that one is not standing with honesty or courage for Truth.

Just because your “advice” isn’t explicit doesn’t mean the implications aren’t clear as day. Coffee’s hating himself based on the warped and extreme views that have been seared into his brain by a thoughtless group masquerading for “truth” when really all they’re doing is enforcing their own stringent and hateful ideals (based on strained interpretations from an archaic text) on innocent minds. You’re a part of that odious group and honestly you can fuck right off. If God exists and is as loving as his followers say he is, he does not approve of your disgusting and spiteful behavior and devious misrepresentations of words, and he’ll surely send you straight down to where you and your other hateful “followers” belong.

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Yeehaw … we got ourselves another roundup.

Lame.

😦

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thejediknighthusezni, your history of irrational posts speak for themselves. You are ill qualified to be giving advice to anyone around here. Please stop posting in this thread.

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Jetrell Fo said:

Yeehaw … we got ourselves another roundup.

Lame.

😦

I’m sorry that I’d rather defend the struggling and good hearted coffee than the bigoted husezni that’s trying to make coffee hate himself. If that makes me a part of some “posse” then fine. I’m disappointed that you’d put petty disagreements with me in front of coffee’s personal mental health.

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Back to the subject of suspiciouscoffee actually reaching out and needing help…

I don’t know how much my advice is worth to you. I’m a straight old white guy, married with kids and a mortgage. And I’m atheist too. So as far a shared life experiences go, maybe not so much. But I know quite a good number of gay folk, and I’ve witnessed at least one complete nightmare trainwreck of a coming-out scenario, so maybe I have something to offer.

My advice: There’s no universally correct way to be gay. Maybe you get giddy and enjoy dancing with girls. That’s not really unheard of. Maybe you’re not a big beefy physical sports guy. That’s pretty common. But you know what? It’s also not unusual for big beefy physical sports guys to be gay too, so don’t heterofetishize that lifestyle too much. A lot of coming to terms with being gay is better described as coming to terms with being yourself. Because if you’ve got these preconceived ideas of what comes along with being gay (“but I don’t like interior design!”), you’re just going to ride the roller coaster of maybe-I-am-maybe-I’m-not a little longer. Maybe you’re gay, maybe you’re bi, maybe there’s no label for what you are. Does the label help? If not, don’t focus on that. Focus on what you think might make you happy and fulfilled. You have a better sense of that than you think.

Community is important. For a lot of people, coming out means saying goodbye to a lot of previously available folks. Church, family, friends. That’s the killer. Without a community of accepting friends, coming out is much, much harder. Find that community–and you won’t know for sure until you come out, but they’ll support you–I’m sure you have a good sense of safe spaces by now, and you should trust them. That’s kinda what we are here–the worst we can do is throw odious words at you anonymously–we’re relatively safe. But in-person safe people are needed too. Start with a new church if church is important to you. Even if you don’t buy their lefty-loosey Bible interpretations–you’re not in it for the dogma, you need the community. You’ll even have some shocking support from some quarter you’d written off. It happens. Once you’re out, the trouble doesn’t end–not by a long shot–but the anxiety, the dread, it all washes away. Slowly, but it does. You know the “It Gets Better” campaign? They’re not wrong.

Project Threepio (Star Wars OOT subtitles)

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Great words CatBus.

Yeah, coffee, you need to focus on what you like and what makes you happy. Don’t feel like you have to change who you are based on the thoughts or actions of others. Maybe it’s not safe to be who you are right now in certain places, but don’t feel like you have to purge that part of you entirely and forever because of it.

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DominicCobb said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Yeehaw … we got ourselves another roundup.

Lame.

😦

I’m sorry that I’d rather defend the struggling and good hearted coffee than the bigoted husezni that’s trying to make coffee hate himself. If that makes me a part of some “posse” then fine. I’m disappointed that you’d put petty disagreements with me in front of coffee’s personal mental health.

All my posts directly to those coming for support do not match your summation of my participation in the support of fellow members. I will say that some of you seem to come in drooling when you go after folks over your interpretation of their words. That is something that should be left out of this thread and I’m sure you’d agree because we’re here to help people not hurt them.

I have no more to say on the matter. Take it as you like. I will continue to support our members in need of it, because them and others in need, deserve it.

Good day to you.

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SilverWook said:

thejediknighthusezni, your history of irrational posts speak for themselves. You are ill qualified to be giving advice to anyone around here. Please stop posting in this thread.

This basically covered it.

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Okay, whoohoo, now husezni knows who complained about him, can we move on?

😦

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Jetrell Fo said:

Okay, so now husezni knows who complained about him, can we move on?

😦

Wrong. 😉

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