4K restoration on Star Wars — Page 179

DrDre said:

Fang Zei said:

DrDre said:

I only wish that were true. The 2015 releases of the saga box set contained nothing new, yet it still was a huge hit.

If the history of releases teaches us anything, it’s that people will buy anything with the words “special collectors edition”, or “remastered” on it, or just a cool new cover.

True, but if you go back to the initial releases of these discs in 2011 and look at how people reacted to news of the additional changes and how it took the blu-rays more than a week to make what the 2004 OT dvd made in its very first day, then it should become clear that the fans wouldn’t be so excited about repeating the experience on a new format.

Sure, but the bluray market now is quite a bit smaller than the DVD market was in it’s heyday, and the price tag for the saga set was also pretty steep, compared to previous releases. I’m not sure if things would have been very different, had an OOT set been included. Most of the OOT fans still bought the bluray set, despite no OOT, while the general audience doesn’t care either way.

If a 4K SE set is under way, I would still buy it, if only to replace the horrible 2011 release, and to get better material for fan edits. I suspect many here will do the same.

Fair enough, and you’re probably right.

Speaking only for myself, I still wouldn’t buy a 4k SE for the same reason I didn’t buy the blu-rays or the GOUT: it sends the wrong message to the powers-that-be.

When the bootleg listings are up and running, they sell like hot cakes

And for the people who didn’t buy these bootlegs, they either already have the despecialized Edition and/or are waiting for an official release

You cannot tell me that the bootleg Market is dead when Joe Schmo over here can make over $1,500 off of shity burned discs in less than a month’s time

SilverWook said:

dahmage said:

i wonder if they will ever perfect behind-your-face 3D. then things really could sneak up on you in movies.

They tested Feel A Round movies in the 70’s, but it was too intense for average movie goers. 😉
https://youtu.be/TCq_nzlou0Q

LOL, that is insane! popcorn for $1? :p

Fresh off the presses: Kathy Kennedy, on whether or not there are plans to alter George’s “final cut” of the films: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie6Cr3m344k&feature=youtu.be

skip to around the 2:50 mark

Lust-In-Phaze said:

Fresh off the presses: Kathy Kennedy, on whether or not there are plans to alter George’s “final cut” of the films: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie6Cr3m344k&feature=youtu.be

Should have asked if an OOT release was possible, and not if a new special edition was possible. She did confirm that they have creative freedom which is good

nickyd47 said:

Lust-In-Phaze said:

Fresh off the presses: Kathy Kennedy, on whether or not there are plans to alter George’s “final cut” of the films: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie6Cr3m344k&feature=youtu.be

Should have asked if an OOT release was possible, and not if a new special edition was possible. She did confirm that they have creative freedom which is good

yeah, a great example of why you should be direct in your questions. never assume that your interviewee can read your mind.

dahmage said:

nickyd47 said:

Lust-In-Phaze said:

Fresh off the presses: Kathy Kennedy, on whether or not there are plans to alter George’s “final cut” of the films: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie6Cr3m344k&feature=youtu.be

Should have asked if an OOT release was possible, and not if a new special edition was possible. She did confirm that they have creative freedom which is good

yeah, a great example of why you should be direct in your questions. never assume that your interviewee can read your mind.

People who actually get as far as interviewing the ones in charge are probably too nervous to just ask that question directly.

Lust-In-Phaze said:

Fresh off the presses: Kathy Kennedy, on whether or not there are plans to alter George’s “final cut” of the films: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie6Cr3m344k&feature=youtu.be

skip to around the 2:50 mark

The writing’s on the wall. “I wouldn’t touch those. They will always be his films”.

The only way an OOT release will happen, is if George Lucas gives his approval. I doubt Lucasfilm would start restoring the OOT on their own accord, and as Pablo Hidalgo hinted, George Lucas is not all that interested.

At this point Mike Verta’s restoration is our best hope. Once his pitch has happened, I suspect a copy will be shared with Lucasfilm, who will have to decide what to do with it: bury it, or get Lucas’ approval for some kind if release.

Either way, as far as I can tell an OOT release seems highly unlikely this year.

Cobra Kai said:

DrDre said:

Lust-In-Phaze said:

Fresh off the presses: Kathy Kennedy, on whether or not there are plans to alter George’s “final cut” of the films: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie6Cr3m344k&feature=youtu.be

skip to around the 2:50 mark

The writing’s on the wall. “I wouldn’t touch those. They will always be his films”.

The only way an OOT release will happen, is if George Lucas gives his approval. I doubt Lucasfilm would start restoring the OOT on their own accord, and as Pablo Hidalgo hinted, George Lucas is not all that interested.

At this point Mike Verta’s restoration is our best hope. Once his pitch has happened, I suspect a copy will be shared with Lucasfilm, who will have to decide what to do with it.

Well, I dont know - the way the interviewer phrased it she could have taken that as if he was talking about future changes to the movies. So I’m not sure if that told us anything one way or the other. A wasted opportunity by the interviewer

Certainly, but she has great respect, and affection for her former boss. “They will always be his films”. Releasing the OOT without consulting George Lucas would be incredibly disrespectful.

Pablo Hidalgo has confirmed the 4K restoration is the SE, and was started under Lucas’ watch.

The Disney restoration people have confirmed the negative is still conformed to the SE.

At this point all we know is, that Lucasfilm and Disney are preserving all Star Wars related material, which would include the surviving OOT material. So, a release is technically possible at some point in the future, but I wouldn’t bet on any time soon.

Cobra Kai said:

DrDre said:

Cobra Kai said:

DrDre said:

Lust-In-Phaze said:

Fresh off the presses: Kathy Kennedy, on whether or not there are plans to alter George’s “final cut” of the films: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie6Cr3m344k&feature=youtu.be

skip to around the 2:50 mark

The writing’s on the wall. “I wouldn’t touch those. They will always be his films”.

The only way an OOT release will happen, is if George Lucas gives his approval. I doubt Lucasfilm would start restoring the OOT on their own accord, and as Pablo Hidalgo hinted, George Lucas is not all that interested.

At this point Mike Verta’s restoration is our best hope. Once his pitch has happened, I suspect a copy will be shared with Lucasfilm, who will have to decide what to do with it.

Well, I dont know - the way the interviewer phrased it she could have taken that as if he was talking about future changes to the movies. So I’m not sure if that told us anything one way or the other. A wasted opportunity by the interviewer

Certainly, but she has great respect, and affection for her former boss. “They will always be his films”. Releasing the OOT without consulting George Lucas would be incredibly disrespectful.

Pablo Hidalgo has confirmed the 4K restoration is the SE, and was started under Lucas’ watch.

The Disney restoration people have confirmed the negative is still conformed to the SE.

At this point all we know is, that Lucasfilm and Disney are preserving all Star Wars related material, which would include the surviving OOT material. So, a release is technically possible at some point in the future, but I wouldn’t bet on any time soon.

Yes, but perhaps George really doesn’t care if they release the OOT along side his preferred cuts. He seemed to soften on his stance about that before Disney bought it anyway.

That being said - yeah I agree with you. I dont have have much hope left either.

Perhaps, although his remarks at celebration about the critics and fans, and the films being for kids, tells me he’s still pretty bitter about it all. I guess we’ll have to wait and see, or more correctly just see, as I’m tired of waiting 😉.

This appeared on the official Star Wars Twitter - lots of replies calling for a HD OT release!

https://twitter.com/starwars/status/856564649147420672

All she said was that they aren’t going to do any more revisions, which is pretty much just common sense and shouldn’t be news to anyone.

DominicCobb said:

pretty much just common sense and shouldn’t be news to anyone.

Kind of sums up the whole thread right there.

DominicCobb said:

All she said was that they aren’t going to do any more revisions, which is pretty much just common sense and shouldn’t be news to anyone.

You don’t think she could mean they have no plans of releasing any version except the one that George considers his truest vision?

Lust-In-Phaze said:

DominicCobb said:

All she said was that they aren’t going to do any more revisions, which is pretty much just common sense and shouldn’t be news to anyone.

You don’t think she could mean they have no plans of releasing any version except the one that George considers his truest vision?

That’s the way I understood her remarks, at least not without George’s blessing.

I think that’s a pretty silly interpretation, honestly.

Cobra Kai said:

DrDre said:

Cobra Kai said:

DrDre said:

Lust-In-Phaze said:

Fresh off the presses: Kathy Kennedy, on whether or not there are plans to alter George’s “final cut” of the films: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie6Cr3m344k&feature=youtu.be

skip to around the 2:50 mark

The writing’s on the wall. “I wouldn’t touch those. They will always be his films”.

The only way an OOT release will happen, is if George Lucas gives his approval. I doubt Lucasfilm would start restoring the OOT on their own accord, and as Pablo Hidalgo hinted, George Lucas is not all that interested.

At this point Mike Verta’s restoration is our best hope. Once his pitch has happened, I suspect a copy will be shared with Lucasfilm, who will have to decide what to do with it.

Well, I dont know - the way the interviewer phrased it she could have taken that as if he was talking about future changes to the movies. So I’m not sure if that told us anything one way or the other. A wasted opportunity by the interviewer

Certainly, but she has great respect, and affection for her former boss. “They will always be his films”. Releasing the OOT without consulting George Lucas would be incredibly disrespectful.

Pablo Hidalgo has confirmed the 4K restoration is the SE, and was started under Lucas’ watch.

The Disney restoration people have confirmed the negative is still conformed to the SE.

At this point all we know is, that Lucasfilm and Disney are preserving all Star Wars related material, which would include the surviving OOT material. So, a release is technically possible at some point in the future, but I wouldn’t bet on any time soon.

Yes, but perhaps George really doesn’t care if they release the OOT along side his preferred cuts. He seemed to soften on his stance about that before Disney bought it anyway.

That being said - yeah I agree with you. I dont have much hope left either.

I just wish someone would ask them directly so we would know.

I really don’t think George cares either way.

Releasing the unaltereds wouldn’t be disrespectful to him so long as they’re packaged with his preferred version and aren’t presented in superior quality. We already know the 4k restoration was of the SE, which means it was off the negative just like the lowry transfer was. An OOT restoration need not be from the negative. If they were to use the separation masters (and Robert A. Harris has suggested they should), right there you are starting out with a lower quality source than the o-neg. Nothing for GL to complain about there. His version would still be superior quality, and they could still get the unaltereds looking close enough to the same level of quality. Hell, call it “bonus material” just like they did last time if he really still wants it known they’re his “rough drafts.”

Now some of you will say “but George doesn’t even want people having that option because they’ll never watch his version again.” To that I simply say, he sold the company to Disney for $4 Billion. If he really is that insecure about it, it should no longer be our problem.

DominicCobb said:

I think that’s a pretty silly interpretation, honestly.

Combine “I wouldn’t touch those. They’re his films” with Hidalgo’s “As far as I can tell only one person can do it, and he’s not all that interested”, and a pretty clear picture emerges. I don’t think it’s a silly suggestion, that those people that in some cases worked with Lucas for decades, would respect his wishes, even if there’s no legally binding contract.

I think it is silly to believe otherwise at this point, since nothing other than unsubstantiated rumours supports another thesis. All information coming from (semi-)official sources points to no OOT in the works at this moment in time. Kennedy’s remarks fit that interpretation of events.

I can see where the idea comes from, I just find it hard to believe.