Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo — Page 219

chyron8472 said:

Jetrell Fo said:

CatBus said:

Similarly there was a common refrain that Obama created ISIS, which was equally impossible given that it happened before Obama. Does that absolve him of any blame for ISIS-related failures? Not at all, just the creation of it.

If I’m not mistaken, this reference was about the ISIL state created inside Syria. Obama waited til Damascus was obliterated before doing anything. American tax payers forked out billions of dollars to weaponize resistance fighters, those resistance fighters turned against us and took all those toys with them to Syria. That is why the claim that Obama created ISIS was used by Trump.

No. The reason why Trump claimed that Obama created ISIS is because Trump just makes up lots of random accusations, be they valid or not. You are retconning Trump’s intent by assigning reasoning that Trump was likely never even aware of at the time he said it.

Okay, I’ll back up my point if you can back up yours? Naw, I’m not like that, here is something to read. I don’t know what Trump knows or doesn’t know and when he knows it or doesn’t but if you do, good on you.

http://investmentwatchblog.com/why-is-obama-helping-isis/

I just want to know who in here thinks the U.S./U.K. should have gone to war in Iraq and overthrow Saddam Hussein in 2003?

Do you think the U.S. should go to war in Syria and overthrow Assad now?

If you answer yes/yes to those questions, you might be like Cheney, Bush, Blair, but also Clinton and maybe Trump. You might be a warmonger.

If you answer no/yes to those questions, what possible explanation can you offer for the discrepancy? Does it not seem like hypocrisy?

If you answer no/no, then why is it OK for the U.S. to pay other people to do the war for them? Is that not hypocrisy also?

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-election-exclusive-idUSKBN17L2N3?il=0

A Russian government think tank controlled by Vladimir Putin developed a plan to swing the 2016 U.S. presidential election to Donald Trump and undermine voters’ faith in the American electoral system, three current and four former U.S. officials told Reuters.

They described two confidential documents from the think tank as providing the framework and rationale for what U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded was an intensive effort by Russia to interfere with the Nov. 8 election. U.S. intelligence officials acquired the documents, which were prepared by the Moscow-based Russian Institute for Strategic Studies [en.riss.ru/], after the election.

The institute is run by retired senior Russian foreign intelligence officials appointed by Putin’s office.

The first Russian institute document was a strategy paper written last June that circulated at the highest levels of the Russian government but was not addressed to any specific individuals.

It recommended the Kremlin launch a propaganda campaign on social media and Russian state-backed global news outlets to encourage U.S. voters to elect a president who would take a softer line toward Russia than the administration of then-President Barack Obama, the seven officials said.

A second institute document, drafted in October and distributed in the same way, warned that Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton was likely to win the election. For that reason, it argued, it was better for Russia to end its pro-Trump propaganda and instead intensify its messaging about voter fraud to undermine the U.S. electoral system’s legitimacy and damage Clinton’s reputation in an effort to undermine her presidency, the seven officials said.

TV’s Frink said:

Another example of that: Obama put a WIRE TAPP on me!

http://www.npr.org/2017/04/19/524697854/trumps-wiretap-tweets-bring-lawsuit-seeking-proof

http://www.businessinsider.com/carter-page-fbi-dossier-fisa-warrant-case-2017-4

They used an unverified document to get a FISA warrant to perform surveillance on Trump Campaign Team members, LOL. I’m not even sure this was legal evidence for a FISA warrant to begin with.

Nevermind, I found this … The bar for obtaining a FISA order is fairly low. So this is their evidence? LMAO

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/18/politics/fbi-dossier-carter-page-donald-trump-russia-investigation/

Comey’s briefings to lawmakers stand in contrast to efforts in recent months by the bureau and US intelligence agencies to try to distance themselves from the dossier.
US law enforcement and intelligence officials have said US investigators did their own work, separate from the dossier, to support their findings that Russia tried to meddle in the 2016 presidential election in favor of Trump.

Comey hasn’t mentioned the dossier in all his briefings to lawmakers, according to people familiar with the briefings. To some of them, he has emphasized that the FBI gathered evidence as part of its investigation to support seeking FISA court approval and to take other steps as part of the probe that began last July, according to the officials briefed of the probe.

I should add that Susan Rice started out denying the unmasking ever happened. Her story has changed remarkably since.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2017/04/04/susan-rice-denies-unmasking-trump-officials.html?via=desktop&source=copyurl

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/flashback-susan-rice-said-i-know-nothing-unmasking-trump-officials/

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/19/opinions/trump-north-korea-everard-opinion/

http://freebeacon.com/politics/nevada-launches-fraud-probe-noncitizen-voters-discovered/

I hadn’t seen this one until today.

Cegavske said in the letter that DMV employees offered and accepted voter registrations from people seeking identification cards and driver’s licenses. The workers allegedly did this even if the individual presented a Green Card showing that they were not U.S. Citizens.

Under Nevada law, individuals can register to vote when they apply for a license or identification card. The DMV then takes the voter registration information and passes it off to the county elections department for processing, AP noted.

“This is emblematic of what I’ve been warning about for years,” Logan Churchwell, spokesman for the Public Interest Legal Foundation, an election integrity group, told the Washington Free Beacon. "States should not follow California and Oregon’s model of automatic voter registration for every person going to the DMV when the DMV is registering ineligible voters “because the rules tell them to serve everyone.”

“Put plain, every DMV customer is being offered voter registration opportunities, even when said customers document with green cards, etc. that they aren’t eligible for voter registration. Nevada SOS warns that not only are noncitizens landing on voter rolls, but they voted in 2016, too,” Churchwell said.

Churchwell added that liberal groups funded by liberal billionaire George Soros are working to “handcuff election officials” from cleaning up voter rolls in a number of states.

“Leftist groups funded by Soros & Co. are now working to handcuff election officials from removing or even questioning voter records that aren’t dead or relocated leaving noncitizens, felons, and fakes free to be. This showdown is the fruit of their handiwork. This is also an example of how county voter files get ridiculously bloated.”

Demos, a Soros-funded liberal advocacy group located in New York City, has intervened in three states where the Public Interest Legal Foundation has filed lawsuits against counties over their unusual voter rolls. Elizabeth Warren’s daughter chairs the board of directors at Demos.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2017/04/04/susan-rice-denies-unmasking-trump-officials.html?via=desktop&source=copyurl

Former national security adviser Susan Rice denied on Tuesday that she was responsible for “unmasking” the names of top Trump officials, as was claimed in reports on Monday. “I leaked nothing to nobody, and never have and never would,” Rice said on MSNBC.

Regardless of the totality of what Rice said, this is terribly written. Unmasking and leaking are two completely different things.

http://freebeacon.com/politics/nevada-launches-fraud-probe-noncitizen-voters-discovered/

This article only provides one side of the story until the very last sentence. It also links to what is supposed to be an AP report but is actually this.

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/article144861804.html

Which happens to provide both sides of the story.

Albertson hit back Saturday, in a response letter back to Cegavske that read in part: “Your letter comes as a complete surprise as you and your office have reviewed, contributed to, and approved the processes you are expressing concerns about.”

Cegavske, the state’s top election official, admonished the DMV in her initial letter, claiming DMV workers offered and accepted voter registration materials from customers seeking driver’s licenses and identification cards, even if the customers presented a Green Card indicating they were not citizens.

Nevada law allows people to register to vote when they’re applying for driver’s licenses and identification cards through the DMV. The DMV then forwards the voter registration information to the county elections department for processing.

Cegavske said DMV workers being told to accept voter registration information from all customers is a misinterpretation of the law. She ordered the DMV to stop the practice.

“Please take appropriate corrective action, as we have reason to believe that non-citizens have unlawfully registered to vote in Nevada as a direct result of DMV’s practices,” Cegavske wrote.

Albertson responded that her agency will consult attorneys on the matter but that the law requires the DMV to forward the registration information no matter how incomplete it may be, because it is the state’s election officials who ultimately assess voter eligibility. The DMV said its workers do, however, flag cases for further review when eligibility is questioned.

Place “RIC” picture here.

The “both sides of the story” article fails to disclose “if” and “how many if they do” and “why did they” when it comes to elected officials actually flagging any of them.

In regards to Susan Rice denying she knew anything … the PBS interview where she said it before she started changing her story is readily available.

I never said she did anything illegal as she had clearance to ask for the unmasking, which I’ve stated before, but she did deny knowing anything about the unmasking until she was openly proven wrong.

CatBus said:

Jetrell Fo said:

chyron8472 said:

Jetrell Fo said:

CatBus said:

Similarly there was a common refrain that Obama created ISIS, which was equally impossible given that it happened before Obama. Does that absolve him of any blame for ISIS-related failures? Not at all, just the creation of it.

If I’m not mistaken, this reference was about the ISIL state created inside Syria. Obama waited til Damascus was obliterated before doing anything. American tax payers forked out billions of dollars to weaponize resistance fighters, those resistance fighters turned against us and took all those toys with them to Syria. That is why the claim that Obama created ISIS was used by Trump.

No. The reason why Trump claimed that Obama created ISIS is because Trump just makes up lots of random accusations, be they valid or not. You are retconning Trump’s intent by assigning reasoning that Trump was likely never even aware of at the time he said it.

Okay, I’ll back up my point if you can back up yours? Naw, I’m not like that, here is something to read. I don’t know what Trump knows or doesn’t know and when he knows it or doesn’t but if you do, good on you.

http://investmentwatchblog.com/why-is-obama-helping-isis/

Just for kicks, I followed the link. Holy cow. I didn’t know there were sites still linking to InfoWars as a “more information” source for their articles, since Alex Jones came out and said “Oh, it’s all just made up conspiracy theories for the gullible–I’m just a performance artist.” That statement, being something that actually happened, must be slow-traveling news in some circles. Apparently InfoWars is still not a red flag for whacked out unsubstantiated BS for the entire world quite yet.

I certainly hope you realized that I don’t ever endorse Infowars for anything. It is no secret that we backed rebels with weapons to fight ISIS/ISIL and those rebels started joining ISIS/ISIL afterwards. We sent them arms that the American taxpayers paid for. The plan was a bust.

Jetrell Fo said:

CatBus said:

Jetrell Fo said:

chyron8472 said:

Jetrell Fo said:

CatBus said:

Similarly there was a common refrain that Obama created ISIS, which was equally impossible given that it happened before Obama. Does that absolve him of any blame for ISIS-related failures? Not at all, just the creation of it.

If I’m not mistaken, this reference was about the ISIL state created inside Syria. Obama waited til Damascus was obliterated before doing anything. American tax payers forked out billions of dollars to weaponize resistance fighters, those resistance fighters turned against us and took all those toys with them to Syria. That is why the claim that Obama created ISIS was used by Trump.

No. The reason why Trump claimed that Obama created ISIS is because Trump just makes up lots of random accusations, be they valid or not. You are retconning Trump’s intent by assigning reasoning that Trump was likely never even aware of at the time he said it.

Okay, I’ll back up my point if you can back up yours? Naw, I’m not like that, here is something to read. I don’t know what Trump knows or doesn’t know and when he knows it or doesn’t but if you do, good on you.

http://investmentwatchblog.com/why-is-obama-helping-isis/

Just for kicks, I followed the link. Holy cow. I didn’t know there were sites still linking to InfoWars as a “more information” source for their articles, since Alex Jones came out and said “Oh, it’s all just made up conspiracy theories for the gullible–I’m just a performance artist.” That statement, being something that actually happened, must be slow-traveling news in some circles. Apparently InfoWars is still not a red flag for whacked out unsubstantiated BS for the entire world quite yet.

I certainly hope you realized that I don’t ever endorse Infowars for anything. It is no secret that we backed rebels with weapons to fight ISIS/ISIL and those rebels started joining ISIS/ISIL afterwards. We sent them arms that the American taxpayers paid for. The plan was a bust.

Bill Hicks isn’t “performance art”, He’s controlled opposition psy-warfare. He does provide heaping helpings of the Truth mixed with the BS, but it’s to spur discredited people to speak Truth in discredited ways. He also establishes trust with conspiracy facts in order to subtly undermine everything.

ISIS and the rebels are indistinguishable. They are CIA/Mossad/Saudi Intelligence mercenaries reducing the Mideast to CHAOS in preparation for the staged Gog-Magog operation.

I wonder if the Saudis realize this has nothing to do with their pipelines or protecting them from the Iranians.

Yeah but bow-tie.

darthrush said:

I am very glad that O’Reilly is now finally off.

Those dummies at Fox signed him to a new contract despite knowing what he did (and spending millions to cover his tracks) so I guess they deserve this.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/20/media/bill-oreilly-millions-payout/

After seeing the Satanist/atheist version of The Ministry/Crucifixion ON RESSURECTION SUNDAY, I hope the Vatican keeps O’Reilly until they all go off to Hell.

The Murdoch spawn(same characters who give us THE NATGEO HOMO KIDDIE PORN MONTHLY) have just vowed to turn FOX into a globalist/progressive pile(there’s nothing like hearing a lecture on journalist ethics from the most DESPICABLE kind of CHILD PORNOGRAPHERS.) I wonder what they’ll do with Carlson and Hannity.

They are all controlled opposition Jesuit shills at FOX. No loss.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/support-for-marijuana-legalization-at-all-time-high/

thejediknighthusezni said:

After seeing the Satanist/atheist version of The Ministry/Crucifixion ON RESSURECTION SUNDAY, I hope the Vatican keeps O’Reilly until they all go off to Hell.

The Murdoch spawn(same characters who give us THE NATGEO HOMO KIDDIE PORN MONTHLY) have just vowed to turn FOX into a globalist/progressive pile(there’s nothing like hearing a lecture on journalist ethics from the most DESPICABLE kind of CHILD PORNOGRAPHERS.) I wonder what they’ll do with Carlson and Hannity.

They are all controlled opposition Jesuit shills at FOX. No loss.

I’m 93% sure you have a large child pornography collection on your computer.

^ That is so not a cool response. Why would you say that to anybody on this forum or anywhere, for that matter, that you don’t know personally?

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