Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo — Page 169

TV’s Frink said:

And here’s The Blaze.

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/03/18/tim-allen-destroys-hollywood-liberals-over-their-intolerant-elitism-its-like-1930s-germany/

Not only was there no mention of joking, he’s getting praised for taking on the damn liberals!

Right wingers don’t have a sense of humor. About the only good parts of Inglourious Basterds, which was otherwise a terrible film, were the scenes where it mocked the Nazis either not having a sense of humor, or only capable of possessing one that was cartoonish and farcical.

Some of the moderate conservatives are of course going to be more normal, but the large masses of them further out on the spectrum are self-hating hypocrites and paranoid, and it’s hard to laugh at much else besides sadism when you go through life living that way.

Alderaan said:

Inglourious Basterds, which was otherwise a terrible film

This is more offensive than anything Tim Allen said. 😉

I hated that movie. It was hard to find much redeeming in it, but mocking Nazis is always a safe bet.

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

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Handman said:

TV’s Frink said:

Handman said:

Well, jokes tend to be offensive depending on who looks at it by their very nature

Bullshit. It depends on the kind of joke being told.

Tell a joke you think is unoffensive and I’ll find a way someone could be offended by it.

Oh give me a break. You want to compare Tim Allen making a Nazi joke to me posting a lurker name, I have no time for you.

So, when you’re offended it’s a problem, but when other people are offended, then fuck them?

Yes. If you actually think those two situations are comparable, I have no time for you either.

I don’t even know what lurker name you’re talking about. This just seems to expose you for being a total hypocrite, which is interesting given that you pretend to be so concerned about people’s feelings.

That’s fine, I think you’re pretty unlikable sometimes too.

I should withdraw that, it was a bit unfair. I should say that maybe I am a hypocrite, but at least I find things offensive, and not just things that affect me directly. Your position seems to generally (not always) be that people shouldn’t be offended by whatever it is they’re offended by, and I think that’s much worse than my supposed inconsistencies. But of course that’s just my opinion and/or perception.

TV’s Frink said:

Alderaan said:

Inglourious Basterds, which was otherwise a terrible film

This is more offensive than anything Tim Allen said. 😉

I’m just glad to see his bad taste in movies is across the board.

Self-indulgent filmmaking is the worst kind.

Hahahaha this is so clever.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/donald-trump-protester-creates-billboard-10060432

darth_ender said:

Hahahaha this is so clever.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/donald-trump-protester-creates-billboard-10060432

http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1057153

JEDIT:

As long as we’re complaining about the articles being posted, there’s this.

Donald Trump protester creates billboard depicting ‘dictator’ President surrounded by Nazi swastikas

Nope!

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Handman said:

I think it was more because the Jezebel article was poorly written than you being offended, as I said it’s completely reasonable to be offended at a comparison to Nazi Germany, a comparison to McCarthyism would have been better for his purposes.

Her purposes.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/new-documents-say-trump-aide-hid-payments-from-pro-moscow-ukraine-party/2017/03/21/92ec85f2-0e11-11e7-9d5a-a83e627dc120_story.html?utm_term=.bf706182955e

A Ukrainian lawmaker on Tuesday released new financial documents allegedly showing that a former campaign chairman to President Trump laundered payments from the party of a disgraced ex-leader of Ukraine using offshore accounts in Belize and Kyrgyzstan.

The new documents may revive questions about the ties between the Trump aide, Paul Manafort, and the party of the former president of Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych, who has been in hiding in Russia since being overthrown by pro-Western protestors in 2014. He is wanted in Ukraine on corruption charges.

Manafort, who worked for Yanukovych’s Party of Regions for nearly a decade, resigned from Trump’s campaign in August after his name in connection with secret payments totaling $12.7 million by Yanukovych’s party. Manafort has denied receiving those payments, listed in the party’s so-called “black ledger.”

Even Fox News makes a good call once in a while.

http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-napolitano-fox-news-20170320-story.html

Fox News senior judicial analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano is being kept off the air indefinitely amid the controversy over his unverified claims that British intelligence wiretapped Trump Tower at the behest of former President Obama.

Fox News did not respond to inquiries about Napolitano’s status Monday. Napolitano was conspicuously missing from the network’s coverage of the confirmation hearings on Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch — an event in which he typically would have played a significant role. He has not been on the air since Thursday.

People familiar with the situation who could speak only on the condition of anonymity said Napolitano is not expected to be on Fox News Channel any time in the near future. Napolitano was not available for comment.

TV’s Frink said:

Handman said:

I think it was more because the Jezebel article was poorly written than you being offended, as I said it’s completely reasonable to be offended at a comparison to Nazi Germany, a comparison to McCarthyism would have been better for his purposes.

Her purposes.

Tim Allen is a woman?!

Sorry, I thought you were talking about the writer of the article.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/03/21/andrew-napolitano-reportedly-pulled-from-fox-news-over-debunked-wiretapping-claims/?utm_term=.1edb0d91d221

I don’t know how anyone could possibly debunk his claim because these agencies don’t release information on things classified as “Top Secret”. When Obama expanded the rules, all approved governmental security agencies have a direct link to the raw “unadulterated” data collected by the NSA/CIA/FBI. Any editing of that data is now done by each specific entity that receives it, even if it is hearsay or rumor. In fact, Comey’s testimony proves it, as he continually states “he cannot answer most questions” in any public venue. The fact that the British Intelligence Agency distanced itself publicly from the suggestion is odd because they don’t publicly confirm or deny anything for this same reason … “Top Secret”.

Weird, for sure, it definitely clouds the issues even more. I’m not saying the allegation about them helping is true but they would even know if we did it because they have access to such data. The FISA Court is designated as “Top Secret” too so people obtaining actual transcripts of Flynn’s conversations is illegal as hell, but it is proof that people in the Trump campaign were under surveillance by our previous Administration.

Jetrell Fo said:

it is proof that people in the Trump campaign were under surveillance by our previous Administration.

Untrue. It is proof that someone was under surveillance. Because people in the Trump campaign were interacting with people from Russia (which no one is denying, at least on a superficial level) it is possible (if not quite likely) that the Russians were under surveillance and that is why the Trump campaign got caught in the net.

The problem is that Trump and Spicer shot their mouths off with no proof to back it up.

TV’s Frink said:

Jetrell Fo said:

it is proof that people in the Trump campaign were under surveillance by our previous Administration.

Untrue. It is proof that someone was under surveillance. Because people in the Trump campaign were interacting with people from Russia (which no one is denying, at least on a superficial level) it is possible (if not quite likely) that the Russians were under surveillance and that is why the Trump campaign got caught in the net.

The problem is that Trump and Spicer shot their mouths off with no proof to back it up.

You cannot disprove it any more than I can prove it at this point. It will be damn difficult to prove publicly either way because any Top Secret documents pertaining to it must stay Top Secret. The fact that Flynn’s conversation was put in to a transcript and illegally released by someone shows that people in the Trump campaign were under surveillance. Now, if any Trump conversation was recorded, unless it is declassified it will not be known legally by the American people.

Now, if Trump has documentation to prove it, we won’t see it either. I agree that Trump should at least not have used the term “wiretapped”, even if it was used loosely. It did start a fire for sure.

^That is a dumb meme.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/former-dni-james-clapper-i-can-deny-wiretap-trump-tower-n729261

Here’s a great example of Top Secret information being let loose. Clapper states that there was no wiretapping on Trump Tower while also saying he saw no evidence of collusion between the Trump Campaign and Russia. James Comey wouldn’t discuss either because the investigation in to Russian ties has been ongoing since July of last year. Robby Mook stated unequivocally that the Trump Campaign was put under surveillance due to investigations of Russian agents.

So, if you were the American people, how would you feel? I’d say they’d feel like dog crap because this seems to indicate that the news of the CIA/NSA/FBI losing control of their intelligence gathering sector and practices is right on. They won’t deny or confirm any of it because … it’s Top Secret.

LOL

The CIA, FBI, and military are not going to share everything with Trump. They don’t trust him, and there’s no chance they shared everything with Obama or Bush or anyone else either.

https://twitter.com/JesseFFerguson/status/843904585953656833

Can someone please compile all the information leaked by Gowdy’s Benghazi committee & all the times he cited newspaper articles.

Thanks.

https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/843864512402997248?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

If you voted for Trump bc you wanted “insurance for everybody” and worried about a POTUS under FBI investigation, my condolences.

https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status/843956264531087361?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

Honest conservative test: Imagine if Clinton had won, given Chelsea a West Wing office and a clearance. Would you have raised hell?

https://twitter.com/RyanLizza/status/843844125464154112?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

At time of pivotal Comey letter on Clinton email, FBI had been investigating Trump campaign links to Russia for three months.

CatBus said:

Luckily, the President has the power to declassify anything he likes, so I’m sure it’ll be cleared up in a jiffy.

Besides, there was a wiretap at Trump Tower. But it was targetting a Russian mob-operated money laundering operation.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story-fbi-wiretap-russians-trump-tower/story?id=46266198

TLDR summary, although the FBI operation was largely a success, the big Russian mafioso got away, and was last seen in the VIP section at one of the President’s events, right near the man himself.

Aside from Jonathan Karl being a tool this is one of those moments I talked about. Things being leaked that aren’t supposed to be leaked. The only thing that will be hard to verify is the nature of the Flynn conversation leak and any other tangent conversation picked up, either randomly or in connection to, conversations of Donald Trump and other members of his campaign.

It’s a shitty mess.

Jetrell Fo said:

Things being leaked that aren’t supposed to be leaked.

https://twitter.com/carlbernstein/status/843862277870702592?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

I can state w/confidence that many intel members now decrying ‘leaks’ of classified info have themselves ‘leaked’ classified info knowingly