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Lord Haseo said:

DominicCobb said:

Lord Haseo said:

Just chiming in right quick:

“aa” as Charlamagne Tha God has said is a term of endearment while “er” is hardly used in the same way as it is usually used in a demoralizing way. There is a clear differences in the way both is used.

That’s all I have to say on the matter.

What about white people using the former?

Don’t mind it at all

Are you black?

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Warbler said:

Jeebus said:

TV’s Frink said:

Jeebus said:

TV’s Frink said:

Jeebus said:

DominicCobb said:

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

Jeebus said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Jeebus said:

TV’s Frink said:

I didn’t actually watch much of it, just was looking for the worst rap song I could find. Kind of surprised to hear they did that.

I think it’s at least so bad that it’s good. They don’t call Jesus their “er”, they’re referring to him as a “niBBa” endearingly, and even so, that’s part of the joke. The joke is that these out-of-touch old white people are saying “niBBa” the same way a young black rapper may say it.

“niBBa”?

ni🅱🅱a?

what?

Yes, it’s been derived from the word “ni🅱🅱a.” I don’t have any personal problems with using “n- - -a” (which is the word spoken in the video, not “n - - - er”) but I wanted to err on the side of caution.

I fail to see a significant difference between the word that ends in “gga” and the one that ends in “gger”. Sorry, but I don’t.

Context.

A white person using it is still rather questionable though.

I agree that it’s questionable, but I wouldn’t jump down their throats for saying it if it’s in the context of “friend.”

Yeah but you’re (presumably) white.

I don’t know what gave you that impression.

Because I’m a moron and a bit accidentally-racist. Casually-racist? Dunno.

My apologies.

So let me start over. Are you black? If so, I’ll shut up. If not…then I stand by what I said (other than the “you’re white” part).

I didn’t say I wasn’t white 😛

In all seriousness, I’d rather not give too much information about who I am. I may not even be a human.

based on all your posts, I’d bet you are white.

How much?

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Handman said:

What about Mark Twain and “Nigger Jim”? Does the simple use of the word make Twain racist, or is it more complicated than that?

Also why am I getting involved in this discussion? I feel like I’ve been repeating myself for awhile.

These things always depend on the situation. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it if used in the proper context in a book or a film or such.

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Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

Jeebus said:

TV’s Frink said:

Jeebus said:

TV’s Frink said:

Jeebus said:

DominicCobb said:

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

Jeebus said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Jeebus said:

TV’s Frink said:

I didn’t actually watch much of it, just was looking for the worst rap song I could find. Kind of surprised to hear they did that.

I think it’s at least so bad that it’s good. They don’t call Jesus their “er”, they’re referring to him as a “niBBa” endearingly, and even so, that’s part of the joke. The joke is that these out-of-touch old white people are saying “niBBa” the same way a young black rapper may say it.

“niBBa”?

ni🅱🅱a?

what?

Yes, it’s been derived from the word “ni🅱🅱a.” I don’t have any personal problems with using “n- - -a” (which is the word spoken in the video, not “n - - - er”) but I wanted to err on the side of caution.

I fail to see a significant difference between the word that ends in “gga” and the one that ends in “gger”. Sorry, but I don’t.

Context.

A white person using it is still rather questionable though.

I agree that it’s questionable, but I wouldn’t jump down their throats for saying it if it’s in the context of “friend.”

Yeah but you’re (presumably) white.

I don’t know what gave you that impression.

Because I’m a moron and a bit accidentally-racist. Casually-racist? Dunno.

My apologies.

So let me start over. Are you black? If so, I’ll shut up. If not…then I stand by what I said (other than the “you’re white” part).

I didn’t say I wasn’t white 😛

In all seriousness, I’d rather not give too much information about who I am. I may not even be a human.

based on all your posts, I’d bet you are white.

How much?

How much money or how much white?

One thing I hadn’t considered is a person being half-black…and I have no answers for that. I’m as white as can be, so my opinion on this is (generally) irrelevant.

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DominicCobb said:

Handman said:

What about Mark Twain and “Nigger Jim”? Does the simple use of the word make Twain racist, or is it more complicated than that?

Also why am I getting involved in this discussion? I feel like I’ve been repeating myself for awhile.

These things always depend on the situation. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it if used in the proper context in a book or a film or such.

This makes the most sense to me.

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Handman said:

TV’s Frink said:

Handman said:

What about Mark Twain and “Nigger Jim”? Does the simple use of the word make Twain racist, or is it more complicated than that?

Words change meaning and usage over time.

By 1880 the word was most definitely derogatory.

Good point.

Would you support its removal from the novel?

No. I admit to not being familiar with the context (I think I read it in 1895) but it’s a part of history, good or bad. I don’t think it should be changed.

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Handman said:

TV’s Frink said:

Handman said:

What about Mark Twain and “Nigger Jim”? Does the simple use of the word make Twain racist, or is it more complicated than that?

Words change meaning and usage over time.

By 1880 the word was most definitely derogatory. Would you support its removal from the novel?

I’d be surprised if anyone on this site, of all places, would be okay with that type of revisionism, though I’ve always thought that the proposed “clean” version would be useful for schools where they might otherwise not read the book at all.

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TV’s Frink said:

Lord Haseo said:

DominicCobb said:

Lord Haseo said:

Just chiming in right quick:

“aa” as Charlamagne Tha God has said is a term of endearment while “er” is hardly used in the same way as it is usually used in a demoralizing way. There is a clear differences in the way both is used.

That’s all I have to say on the matter.

What about white people using the former?

Don’t mind it at all

Are you black?

Don’t know why I’m speaking for him but since it’s a legit question and I don’t want it to be buried I seem to recall him saying he was mixed, I don’t recall exactly though.

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DominicCobb said:

Handman said:

TV’s Frink said:

Handman said:

What about Mark Twain and “Nigger Jim”? Does the simple use of the word make Twain racist, or is it more complicated than that?

Words change meaning and usage over time.

By 1880 the word was most definitely derogatory. Would you support its removal from the novel?

I’d be surprised if anyone on this site, of all places, would be okay with that type of revisionism, though I’ve always thought that the proposed “clean” version would be useful for schools where they might otherwise not read the book at all.

I think a good way of handling it would be to have the original version preserved in such a way that it can be looked up easily for academic studies or education, even if that’s not the “default” format available to the public.

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TV’s Frink said:

Lord Haseo said:

DominicCobb said:

Lord Haseo said:

Just chiming in right quick:

“aa” as Charlamagne Tha God has said is a term of endearment while “er” is hardly used in the same way as it is usually used in a demoralizing way. There is a clear differences in the way both is used.

That’s all I have to say on the matter.

What about white people using the former?

Don’t mind it at all

Are you black?

Black, White, Puerto Rican, Irish, Hungarian and Jamacian

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Lord Haseo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Lord Haseo said:

DominicCobb said:

Lord Haseo said:

Just chiming in right quick:

“aa” as Charlamagne Tha God has said is a term of endearment while “er” is hardly used in the same way as it is usually used in a demoralizing way. There is a clear differences in the way both is used.

That’s all I have to say on the matter.

What about white people using the former?

Don’t mind it at all

Are you black?

Black, White, Puerto Rican, Irish, Hungarian and Jamacian

Ok then you can have 17% of an opinion. :p

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Warbler said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Five-to-seven seasons is the longest any TV series should run. Eight-to-ten is pushing things a little too far. Eleven and up? That’s when you know zombification has set in.

What about Doctor Who?

Never watched any original Doctor Who, and all that material is precisely why I’m reluctant to try.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Warbler said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Five-to-seven seasons is the longest any TV series should run. Eight-to-ten is pushing things a little too far. Eleven and up? That’s when you know zombification has set in.

What about Doctor Who?

Never watched any original Doctor Who, and all that material is precisely why I’m reluctant to try.

I prefer the original show to what’s happening with it now, there’s something in there for everyone. I’d recommend either The Aztecs or The War Games to get a glimpse at the show in its original form, and The Tomb of the Cybermen for the second incarnation. The third kicks off strong with Spearhead from Space, and I’d also recommend The Green Death. The Ark in Space or City of Death (written by none other than Douglas Adams!) for the fourth and most popular, but beyond that you go into the 80s, of which I’d say The Visitation is the only one I could recommend you.

Yeah, I see what you’re getting at. But it’s really great stuff some of the time, each of the stories I recommended are very different from the rest, so you’re bound to like at least one of them.

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TV’s Frink said:

Lord Haseo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Lord Haseo said:

DominicCobb said:

Lord Haseo said:

Just chiming in right quick:

“aa” as Charlamagne Tha God has said is a term of endearment while “er” is hardly used in the same way as it is usually used in a demoralizing way. There is a clear differences in the way both is used.

That’s all I have to say on the matter.

What about white people using the former?

Don’t mind it at all

Are you black?

Black, White, Puerto Rican, Irish, Hungarian and Jamacian

Ok then you can have 17% of an opinion. :p

Considering I’m on the internet that is more than enough.

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It amazes me that some people are able to keep the same avatar for years on end. I can’t not change mine.

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^Until recently, I shared your sentiment 100%. Now it’s more around 60%.

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The only change I’ve made is the background. I find the avatar is soon associated with the user and to change it messes with that for me. Plus, it takes a lot of effort to change something that in the end means very little.