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ferris209 said:

Tyrphanax said:

I’m going to be very interested to read these posts again in four years.

I still maintain that Trump will not turn out to be the next Hitler nor will he be the great savior. I think when it’s all said and done he will probably be a “meh” president with liberals upset that he wasn’t the catastrophe they rant and rave about and everyone who believed what he said upset that he failed to live up to 95% of his campaign promises.

I more or less agree with regards to Trump himself… I think he’s a bad person, but I doubt we’ll see anything truly groundbreaking one way or the other from him during his time in office (though we will continue to have at least one ridiculous drama or scandal or controversy per day). I’m more interested about his cabinet picks and the Republican-controlled congress.

The right wing has a chance to prove they know what they’re doing with regards to America, and we’ll see if they truly do (or not) in these coming years. They face very little opposition in congress and from the President as well as eventually the supreme court, so it’ll be interesting to see their agendas at (mostly uncontested) work.

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In honor of President Barack Obama’s very very last day, and hours as President, please share your memory of his greatest speech. You know the one, that one on par with “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!,” “Four score and seven year ago,” “Ask not what your country can do for you…,” “a date which will live in infamy,” and “I can hear you, the rest of the world hears you! And the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon!”

You all know that speech President Obama gave that made us all shiver in patriotism, share your memories of it. You know where you were at when you heard it, just share.

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Tyrphanax said:

ferris209 said:

Tyrphanax said:

I’m going to be very interested to read these posts again in four years.

I still maintain that Trump will not turn out to be the next Hitler nor will he be the great savior. I think when it’s all said and done he will probably be a “meh” president with liberals upset that he wasn’t the catastrophe they rant and rave about and everyone who believed what he said upset that he failed to live up to 95% of his campaign promises.

I more or less agree with regards to Trump himself… I think he’s a bad person, but I doubt we’ll see anything truly groundbreaking one way or the other from him during his time in office (though we will continue to have at least one ridiculous drama or scandal or controversy per day). I’m more interested about his cabinet picks and the Republican-controlled congress.

The right wing has a chance to prove they know what they’re doing with regards to America, and we’ll see if they truly do (or not) in these coming years. They face very little opposition in congress and from the President as well as eventually the supreme court, so it’ll be interesting to see their agendas at (mostly uncontested) work.

Intersting is not the word I would use.

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DominicCobb said:

Tyrphanax said:

ferris209 said:

Tyrphanax said:

I’m going to be very interested to read these posts again in four years.

I still maintain that Trump will not turn out to be the next Hitler nor will he be the great savior. I think when it’s all said and done he will probably be a “meh” president with liberals upset that he wasn’t the catastrophe they rant and rave about and everyone who believed what he said upset that he failed to live up to 95% of his campaign promises.

I more or less agree with regards to Trump himself… I think he’s a bad person, but I doubt we’ll see anything truly groundbreaking one way or the other from him during his time in office (though we will continue to have at least one ridiculous drama or scandal or controversy per day). I’m more interested about his cabinet picks and the Republican-controlled congress.

The right wing has a chance to prove they know what they’re doing with regards to America, and we’ll see if they truly do (or not) in these coming years. They face very little opposition in congress and from the President as well as eventually the supreme court, so it’ll be interesting to see their agendas at (mostly uncontested) work.

Intersting is not the word I would use.

Fascinating. And where were you on the day that President Obama delivered his timeless historic speech?

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DominicCobb said:

Which one

sigh The one! You know that speech that Obama gave that changed history. You know, that one. You surely remember that day he gave it!?!?? You’d totally remember it if I said just three words of it. Because it was historic.

I’ll give you a tip, he said “I” “my” and “me” in it. Surely you remember it?!!? It was historic!!!

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ferris209 said:

That is a mere opinion that a lot of people would disagree with. Not me necessarily, but a lot of people.

A lot of people start their day with fast food breakfasts and are dying of obesity and early onset diabetes, and they think that’s just fine. Their opinion on the matter is irrelevant.

I’ve seen no evidence to suggest Donald Trump has strong character (quite the opposite) and deep convictions (ha). I challenge anyone to produce any examples at all that Trump has done anything in public to demonstrate strong character and conviction as they relate to any issue, political or otherwise.

ferris209 said:

In honor of President Barack Obama’s very very last day, and hours as President, please share your memory of his greatest speech. You know the one, that one on par with “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!,” “Four score and seven year ago,” “Ask not what your country can do for you…,” “a date which will live in infamy,” and “I can hear you, the rest of the world hears you! And the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon!”

You all know that speech President Obama gave that made us all shiver in patriotism, share your memories of it. You know where you were at when you heard it, just share.

ferris209 said:

DominicCobb said:

Tyrphanax said:

ferris209 said:

Tyrphanax said:

I’m going to be very interested to read these posts again in four years.

I still maintain that Trump will not turn out to be the next Hitler nor will he be the great savior. I think when it’s all said and done he will probably be a “meh” president with liberals upset that he wasn’t the catastrophe they rant and rave about and everyone who believed what he said upset that he failed to live up to 95% of his campaign promises.

I more or less agree with regards to Trump himself… I think he’s a bad person, but I doubt we’ll see anything truly groundbreaking one way or the other from him during his time in office (though we will continue to have at least one ridiculous drama or scandal or controversy per day). I’m more interested about his cabinet picks and the Republican-controlled congress.

The right wing has a chance to prove they know what they’re doing with regards to America, and we’ll see if they truly do (or not) in these coming years. They face very little opposition in congress and from the President as well as eventually the supreme court, so it’ll be interesting to see their agendas at (mostly uncontested) work.

Intersting is not the word I would use.

Fascinating. And where were you on the day that President Obama delivered his timeless historic speech?

ferris209 said:

DominicCobb said:

Which one

sigh The one! You know that speech that Obama gave that changed history. You know, that one. You surely remember that day he gave it!?!?? You’d totally remember it if I said just three words of it. Because it was historic.

I’ll give you a tip, he said “I” “my” and “me” in it. Surely you remember it?!!? It was historic!!!

History judges speeches. There are very few people capable of knowing what speeches will be remembered/quoted in the moment they’re delivered. And my guess is that if you belonged to any marginalized group, you would’ve found something beautiful/motivating/“historic” about any number of Obama’s speeches, which have largely been quite good even though he didn’t kiss all the traditionally untouchable, irreproachable asses. Like the police, for example.

Human “memory” is subject to deep corruption; any written quote referred to as “historic”, any sound bite played endlessly, any video recording played in documentaries that we’re raised watching…any of those things lead to memories and impressions of what’s historic. Lots of what you and I believe to be historic has more to do with what we’ve been told is historic by historians. We actually reconstruct and rebuild memories on the fly, so if we’re told often enough that something is important and historic, we’ll believe it and even construct memories around it if we were alive at the time. The only historic moment I can remember with any accuracy or vibrancy is the Challenger explosion because we watched it happen live in my elementary school cafeteria, and I still question my exact memories because I know how fallible they are.

If Trump is smart, he’ll avoid trying to be historic and stick to petty insults and fascist rhetoric since those are the things that inspire his supporters.

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Jay said:

I’ve seen no evidence to suggest Donald Trump has strong character (quite the opposite) and deep convictions (ha). I challenge anyone to produce any examples at all that Trump has done anything in public to demonstrate strong character and conviction as they relate to any issue, political or otherwise.

He’s convinced that worth of a woman is in her appearance and he’s never wavered from that.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-cabinet-nominees-meet-growing-ethical-questions/2017/01/18/a7d82af8-ddaf-11e6-acdf-14da832ae861_story.html?utm_term=.d8c259c887cc

Three of Donald Trump’s Cabinet picks came under growing fire Wednesday on ethical issues, potentially jeopardizing their nominations.

The most serious concerns surround personal investments by Trump’s health and human services nominee, Rep. Tom Price (R-Ga.), in health-care firms that benefited from legislation that he was pushing at the time.

Additionally, Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-S.C.), Trump’s choice to head the Office of Management and Budget, has acknowledged during his confirmation process that he failed to pay more than $15,000 in state and federal employment taxes for a household employee.

And Commerce Department nominee Wilbur Ross revealed that one of the “dozen or so” housekeepers he has hired since 2009 was undocumented, which he said he discovered only recently. The employee was fired as a result, he added.

All of those are the kinds of problems that have torpedoed nominees in the past. But it is far from certain — or even likely — that any of Trump’s nominees will buckle under the political pressure.

Of course none of this will matter, since there are very few Republicans left who aren’t hypocrites.

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So in one day USA will finally get a good president ? It was about time ! When was the last good one ? JFK I think. 8 years of Obama, 12 of Bushes, 8 of Clintons… I pity you but now I kinda envy you 😃

Go Donald Go !

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ferris209 said:

In honor of President Barack Obama’s very very last day, and hours as President, please share your memory of his greatest speech. You know the one, that one on par with “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!,” “Four score and seven year ago,” “Ask not what your country can do for you…,” “a date which will live in infamy,” and “I can hear you, the rest of the world hears you! And the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon!”

You all know that speech President Obama gave that made us all shiver in patriotism, share your memories of it. You know where you were at when you heard it, just share.

“Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!” (1987)

“Four score and seven year ago” (1863)

“Ask not what your country can do for you…” (1961)

“a date which will live in infamy” (1941)

“I can hear you, the rest of the world hears you! And the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon!” (2001)

4 of these were during war time (cold and otherwise), one of them from the inauguration of perhaps the most charismatic president ever, the most recent one was 16 years ago and I personally had never heard before. Since Obama didn’t start any wars, he really didn’t need to give “RA RA PATRIOTISM” speeches to justify his actions.

I hope you enjoy the military marching past the White House to show off our power, probably waving “TRUMP” banners.

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