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Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Oh boy.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/fbi/314892-fbi-other-agencies-probe-possible-russia-aid-to-trump-report

The FBI and five other intelligence and law enforcement agencies are working together on an investigation into whether Russia’s government secretly helped President-elect Donald Trump win the election, according to a new report.

The collaborative probe is partially focused on whether any covert money from the Kremlin financed hacking operations to benefit Trump’s campaign, McClatchy reported Wednesday.

Two people familiar with the matter told McClatchy the intelligence agencies involved include the FBI, the CIA, the National Security Agency (NSA) and representatives for the director of national intelligence. Two law enforcement agencies — the Justice Department and the Treasury Department’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network — are also participating.

According to McClatchy, the interagency working group is informal and began scrutinizing possible Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential race last spring. A key mission of the six-agency team, it said, is examining who financed the email hacks of major Democratic Party sources last year.

hmmmm, who could that possibly be? It would take someone with a lot money, motive for the Dems to lose, and low morals. hmm . . . .

I’d love to agree with you on this but until they show some actual proof in black and white, that can be verified, it’s all smoke and mirrors.

Uranium One.

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Jetrell Fo said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Oh boy.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/fbi/314892-fbi-other-agencies-probe-possible-russia-aid-to-trump-report

The FBI and five other intelligence and law enforcement agencies are working together on an investigation into whether Russia’s government secretly helped President-elect Donald Trump win the election, according to a new report.

The collaborative probe is partially focused on whether any covert money from the Kremlin financed hacking operations to benefit Trump’s campaign, McClatchy reported Wednesday.

Two people familiar with the matter told McClatchy the intelligence agencies involved include the FBI, the CIA, the National Security Agency (NSA) and representatives for the director of national intelligence. Two law enforcement agencies — the Justice Department and the Treasury Department’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network — are also participating.

According to McClatchy, the interagency working group is informal and began scrutinizing possible Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential race last spring. A key mission of the six-agency team, it said, is examining who financed the email hacks of major Democratic Party sources last year.

hmmmm, who could that possibly be? It would take someone with a lot money, motive for the Dems to lose, and low morals. hmm . . . .

I’d love to agree with you on this but until they show some actual proof in black and white, that can be verified, it’s all smoke and mirrors.

Uranium One.

😉

Well I am pretty sure that if it did happen, however did had a lot money, wanted the Dems to lose and is a bad person.

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Warbler said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Oh boy.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/fbi/314892-fbi-other-agencies-probe-possible-russia-aid-to-trump-report

The FBI and five other intelligence and law enforcement agencies are working together on an investigation into whether Russia’s government secretly helped President-elect Donald Trump win the election, according to a new report.

The collaborative probe is partially focused on whether any covert money from the Kremlin financed hacking operations to benefit Trump’s campaign, McClatchy reported Wednesday.

Two people familiar with the matter told McClatchy the intelligence agencies involved include the FBI, the CIA, the National Security Agency (NSA) and representatives for the director of national intelligence. Two law enforcement agencies — the Justice Department and the Treasury Department’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network — are also participating.

According to McClatchy, the interagency working group is informal and began scrutinizing possible Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential race last spring. A key mission of the six-agency team, it said, is examining who financed the email hacks of major Democratic Party sources last year.

hmmmm, who could that possibly be? It would take someone with a lot money, motive for the Dems to lose, and low morals. hmm . . . .

I’d love to agree with you on this but until they show some actual proof in black and white, that can be verified, it’s all smoke and mirrors.

Uranium One.

😉

Well I am pretty sure that if it did happen, however did had a lot money, wanted the Dems to lose and is a bad person.

Personally, IMO, it had nothing to do with Dems or Reps. It proved a weakness in the American political process from the inside out.

Clinton was a part of that as she was a politician, Trump was just a personality and he was the person running against her. If Bernie would have been running against her, it still would have happened, because the leak started well before the sides were chosen.

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^Of course not. She plans on returning to such activity real soon. God just gave her some time off because she worked so hard for nothing.

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If there is one silver lining to Trump’s win, it’s that we don’t have to deal with another 4 to 8 years of ferris posting about Hillary Clinton.

ferris209 said:

Oh.

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TV’s Frink said:

If there is one silver lining to Trump’s win, it’s that we don’t have to deal with another 4 to 8 years of ferris posting about Hillary Clinton.

Just need to remind you Dems what a horrid choice y’all made. Blame the Russians all you want, you can truly thank Hillary for Trump.

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TV’s Frink said:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/18/politics/george-h-w-bush-hospitalized/

Former President George H.W. Bush and his wife, former First Lady Barbara Bush, have both been hospitalized, his spokesman said Wednesday.

President Bush, 92, was admitted to intensive care at Houston Methodist Hospital to address “an acute respiratory problem stemming from pneumonia. Doctors performed a procedure to protect and clear his airway that required sedation,” his spokesman, >Jim McGrath, said in a statement.

Barbara Bush also was admitted to the hospital Wednesday morning as a precaution after “experiencing fatigue and coughing,” McGrath said in the same statement.

Hopefully they’re both ok.

I’ve been feeling this would happen since the start of the year, Bush 41 has been in poor health for awhile. Here’s a favorite clip from his presidency:
https://youtu.be/bOpOvIYsFsI

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ferris209 said:

TV’s Frink said:

If there is one silver lining to Trump’s win, it’s that we don’t have to deal with another 4 to 8 years of ferris posting about Hillary Clinton.

Just need to remind you Dems what a horrid choice y’all made. Blame the Russians all you want, you can truly thank Hillary for Trump.

Anyone who assigns blame for Trump to a single factor, regardless of the factor chosen, isn’t paying attention or is trolling. She won the popular vote by a large margin and lost the three critical electoral vote states by a margin of approx. 100,000 raw votes. The blame, in no particular order, lies with

  • Hillary
  • People who voted for Trump (simplified into four groups below)
    – Racists, sexists, and xenophobes
    – Good people who believed a metric ton of lies covering a ton of different subjects
    – People who hated Hillary so badly that they pretended Trump wasn’t worse
    – People who blindly voted “R”
  • Russin / Putin
  • Julian Assange / Wikileaks
  • The DNC
  • People who pouted because they didn’t get Bernie so they didn’t vote for Hillary
  • James Comey
  • Breitbart/Steve Bannon

And I’m sure there’s more I’ve missed.

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TV’s Frink said:

ferris209 said:

TV’s Frink said:

If there is one silver lining to Trump’s win, it’s that we don’t have to deal with another 4 to 8 years of ferris posting about Hillary Clinton.

Just need to remind you Dems what a horrid choice y’all made. Blame the Russians all you want, you can truly thank Hillary for Trump.

Anyone who assigns blame for Trump to a single factor, regardless of the factor chosen, isn’t paying attention or is trolling. She won the popular vote by a large margin and lost the three critical electoral vote states by a margin of approx. 100,000 raw votes. The blame, in no particular order, lies with

  • Hillary
  • People who voted for Trump (simplified into four groups below)
    – Racists, sexists, and xenophobes
    – Good people who believed a metric ton of lies covering a ton of different subjects
    – People who hated Hillary so badly that they pretended Trump wasn’t worse
    – People who blindly voted “R”

There’s one more.

  • People who pouted because they didn’t get Bernie so they didn’t vote for Hillary

Doesn’t this fall under

– People who hated Hillary so badly that they pretended Trump wasn’t worse

?

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http://www.snopes.com/2016/11/13/who-won-the-popular-vote/

Quote from the article …

While these uncounted votes may grow Clinton’s popular lead, they absolutely will not change the course of the election. That math is settled; Trump holds an insurmountable lead in swing states, which turned his popular defeat into a sizable electoral victory. All the votes in liberal-leaning New York and California will not change that.

TV’s Frink said:

ferris209 said:

TV’s Frink said:

If there is one silver lining to Trump’s win, it’s that we don’t have to deal with another 4 to 8 years of ferris posting about Hillary Clinton.

Just need to remind you Dems what a horrid choice y’all made. Blame the Russians all you want, you can truly thank Hillary for Trump.

Anyone who assigns blame for Trump to a single factor, regardless of the factor chosen, isn’t paying attention or is trolling. She won the popular vote by a large margin and lost the three critical electoral vote states by a margin of approx. 100,000 raw votes. The blame, in no particular order, lies with

  • People who voted for Trump (simplified into four groups below)
    – Racists, sexists, and xenophobes
    – Good people who believed a metric ton of lies covering a ton of different subjects
    – People who hated Hillary so badly that they pretended Trump wasn’t worse
    – People who blindly voted “R”

The above remarks are disrespectful to any forum members that have voted for Donald Trump. These “4 groups” are opinion with no basis in fact or legal print. This is not meant as a jab or to be mean. I am just pointing out that maybe you spoke your opinion without thinking it through first. We all make mistakes, myself included.

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ferris209 said:

TV’s Frink said:

If there is one silver lining to Trump’s win, it’s that we don’t have to deal with another 4 to 8 years of ferris posting about Hillary Clinton.

Just need to remind you Dems what a horrid choice y’all made. Blame the Russians all you want, you can truly thank Hillary for Trump.

Actually, you made the more horrid choice.

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Jetrell Fo said:

http://www.snopes.com/2016/11/13/who-won-the-popular-vote/

Quote from the article …

While these uncounted votes may grow Clinton’s popular lead, they absolutely will not change the course of the election. That math is settled; Trump holds an insurmountable lead in swing states, which turned his popular defeat into a sizable electoral victory. All the votes in liberal-leaning New York and California will not change that.

None of what you said quoted changes the fact the most people did not vote for Trump and more people voted for Hillary than Trump.

TV’s Frink said:

ferris209 said:

TV’s Frink said:

If there is one silver lining to Trump’s win, it’s that we don’t have to deal with another 4 to 8 years of ferris posting about Hillary Clinton.

Just need to remind you Dems what a horrid choice y’all made. Blame the Russians all you want, you can truly thank Hillary for Trump.

Anyone who assigns blame for Trump to a single factor, regardless of the factor chosen, isn’t paying attention or is trolling. She won the popular vote by a large margin and lost the three critical electoral vote states by a margin of approx. 100,000 raw votes. The blame, in no particular order, lies with

  • People who voted for Trump (simplified into four groups below)
    – Racists, sexists, and xenophobes
    – Good people who believed a metric ton of lies covering a ton of different subjects
    – People who hated Hillary so badly that they pretended Trump wasn’t worse
    – People who blindly voted “R”

The above remarks are disrespectful to any forum members that have voted for Donald Trump. These “4 groups” are also opinion kaka with no basis in fact or legal print. I wouldn’t normally respond to you but this was just not cool.

blow it out your ear. Frink was absolutely right. Also, I have no respect for those that voted for Trump. Anyone that couldn’t stomach voting for Hillary should have voted third party/independent/write-in.

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Warbler said:

Jetrell Fo said:

http://www.snopes.com/2016/11/13/who-won-the-popular-vote/

Quote from the article …

While these uncounted votes may grow Clinton’s popular lead, they absolutely will not change the course of the election. That math is settled; Trump holds an insurmountable lead in swing states, which turned his popular defeat into a sizable electoral victory. All the votes in liberal-leaning New York and California will not change that.

None of what you said changes the fact the most people did not vote for Trump and more people voted for Hillary than Trump.

I didn’t say any of that, it was quoted from the article. As for your other comment, I will not respond out of respect for Frink and the forum. There is no need to gaslight the conversation in to something that adds nothing to the discussion.

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Warbler said:
Also, I have no respect for those that voted for Trump.

That’s another reason why Trump was elected.

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Handman said:

Warbler said:
Also, I have no respect for those that voted for Trump.

That’s another reason why Trump was elected.

This and the fact that he didn’t need the popular vote to win.

😉

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ferris209 said:

Warbler said:

Also, I have no respect for those that voted for Trump.

Really? You have no respect for me anymore?

Well maybe I haven’t lost all respect for you, but it has gone down a bit. All Trump voters should be ashamed. I understand not voting for Hillary, but to vote for that racist, sexist, jerk was disgraceful.

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Jetrell Fo said:

Handman said:

Warbler said:
Also, I have no respect for those that voted for Trump.

That’s another reason why Trump was elected.

This and the fact that he didn’t need the popular vote to win.

😉

What the hell are you talking about? The only reason he didn’t need the popular vote to win is because we elect Presidents via the Electoral College instead of the popular vote.

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Jetrell Fo said:

Warbler said:

Jetrell Fo said:

http://www.snopes.com/2016/11/13/who-won-the-popular-vote/

Quote from the article …

While these uncounted votes may grow Clinton’s popular lead, they absolutely will not change the course of the election. That math is settled; Trump holds an insurmountable lead in swing states, which turned his popular defeat into a sizable electoral victory. All the votes in liberal-leaning New York and California will not change that.

None of what you said changes the fact the most people did not vote for Trump and more people voted for Hillary than Trump.

I didn’t say any of that, it was quoted from the article.

very well, I will edit the post to note that.

As for your other comment, I will not respond out of respect for Frink and the forum. There is no need to gaslight the conversation in to something that adds nothing to the discussion.

What Frink said was correct.

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Jeebus said:

TV’s Frink said:

ferris209 said:

TV’s Frink said:

If there is one silver lining to Trump’s win, it’s that we don’t have to deal with another 4 to 8 years of ferris posting about Hillary Clinton.

Just need to remind you Dems what a horrid choice y’all made. Blame the Russians all you want, you can truly thank Hillary for Trump.

Anyone who assigns blame for Trump to a single factor, regardless of the factor chosen, isn’t paying attention or is trolling. She won the popular vote by a large margin and lost the three critical electoral vote states by a margin of approx. 100,000 raw votes. The blame, in no particular order, lies with

  • Hillary
  • People who voted for Trump (simplified into four groups below)
    – Racists, sexists, and xenophobes
    – Good people who believed a metric ton of lies covering a ton of different subjects
    – People who hated Hillary so badly that they pretended Trump wasn’t worse
    – People who blindly voted “R”

There’s one more.

  • People who pouted because they didn’t get Bernie so they didn’t vote for Hillary

Doesn’t this fall under

– People who hated Hillary so badly that they pretended Trump wasn’t worse

?

ferris, AFAIK, falls under one of those categories but not the other.

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Warbler said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Warbler said:

Jetrell Fo said:

http://www.snopes.com/2016/11/13/who-won-the-popular-vote/

Quote from the article …

While these uncounted votes may grow Clinton’s popular lead, they absolutely will not change the course of the election. That math is settled; Trump holds an insurmountable lead in swing states, which turned his popular defeat into a sizable electoral victory. All the votes in liberal-leaning New York and California will not change that.

None of what you said changes the fact the most people did not vote for Trump and more people voted for Hillary than Trump.

I didn’t say any of that, it was quoted from the article.

very well, I will edit the post to note that.

As for your other comment, I will not respond out of respect for Frink and the forum. There is no need to gaslight the conversation in to something that adds nothing to the discussion.

What Frink said was correct.

It is your right to agree with his opinion but labeling members of this forum that did vote Trump in such a manner is not good form. It has nothing to do with correct or incorrect.