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Papai2013
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Info: The Dark Knight - EE Reduction and Original Color Timing
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14-Jul-2016, 3:50 AM

I cannot see the images you have posted for comparison. Is there any external link to them?
Also, I think this a good project to undertake. The DVD Screener is the best source for colour as I believe it has the same look as most photochemically colour timed prints have. The DVD screener was, I believe, sourced from an HD Telecine. So it’s accurate to the 35mm print, more or less. In any case, the colours look far more richer as well as pleasing to the eyes than the Blu-ray.

Like you, I also have the passion but lack the technical knowhow of undertaking such a project. I have tried fixing the colours of Jurassic Park, based on the various 35mm cinema print stills floating in the internet (as well as the colour-corrected 3D BD). But I have only been able to produce results which are closer, but still very far off the actual timing.

There is a reason for this. Though I myself know only Adobe Premiere, I believe that digital grading and photo-chemical finish are entirely different techniques and you cannot produce the same results. Often times, while trying, I ended up having grossly wrong tones at different parts of the frame. Photoshop gives much more accurate results, but it’s abilities are limited to stills, I believe. Unless you were to colour-correct each individual frame of a movie, which would be madness.

The variables of digital are entirely different and will never reproduce the beauty of an organic/analog medium. This is why most digitally graded movies look fake, even those that are shot on actual celluloid film. The digital grading never feels “natural” to my eyes. It feels “tacked on.” Digital footages in addition to digital grading has robbed the life from films. Both give an image a very synthetic, sterile and flat look. It does not feel lively or natural. because it is “not” natural.

You can get close, but that’s it.

However, I should cheer you on to try and find things for yourself. And use a better software. Let us know the progress. Thanks.