yotsuya said:
I went back and reread the definitions you provided and that is EXACTLY how I would describe both those scenes. Both critical to the story and in both places it jerks me out of the movie, disrupts the flow of the story, and both are logical inconsistent. That makes them plot holes. And by those definitions, my personal perspective is inherent to whether I consider it a plot hole or not. Your opinion as to whether it is a plot hole or not is irrelevant to whether or not it fits the definition in my viewing experience. It matters to you and your viewing experience, but not mine.
There is nothing about Rey and Finn managing to evade the one Star Destroyer in orbit around Jakku that is inherently impossible or inconsistent with the way the Star Wars universe works. Nor is Han conveniently being close enough to pick them up as soon as he did. Heck, with how this franchise has worked before, you could easily just chalk both those up to being “the will of the Force” or something. And when it comes to the gang seeing the destruction of the Republic system… Technically speaking, that is a plot-hole in that it blatantly breaks the laws of physics, but it’s clearly done for dramatic effect; Would that scene really have the same impact if someone just walked by and said “Guys! The First Order just blew up a star system!!”? (Putting aside the matter of me literally never having seen a single person who genuinely cared about the destruction of those planets…) I mean both that and what the movie itself did would have served the same purpose in the narrative, but one makes the scene more dramatic.
No, you want a legit plot-hole? Leia remembering her mother. That is blatantly impossible considering how Revenge of the Sith showed us that she died immediately after she was born. The “plot-holes” you’re complaining about are more on the level of saying that Luke’s plan to free Han from Jabba was really convoluted and stupid and claiming that that’s a plot-hole.