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Post #948128

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yotsuya
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Is there anything that you actually like about the prequels?
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Date created
1-Jun-2016, 9:38 PM

Lord Haseo said:

yotsuya said:

Lord Haseo said:

yotsuya said:
Yup, exactly why those two scenes are plot holes in my book. Both took me right out of the movie.

There is no “in my book” when it comes to definitions. You can’t change a definition based on your personal beliefs.

Ah, but you provided the definition and to me both those perfectly meet your definition.

Maybe that’s because I use words I know the definitions to lol

I’m telling you that when I fist saw TFA, both those scenes interrupted the film and for my experience they exactly match the provided definition of a plot hole.

I don’t really care about how you felt. A vast majority of the things you said were plot holes were actually plot conveniences, inconsistencies with how reality works (like the people at Maz’s Castle seeing the Hosnian System being destroyed), things you didn’t understand in the story or things that didn’t match the dictionary definition of a plot hole. Also, how does your first impression of a film have to do with what you know now?

R2 waking up didn’t have the same effect.

Because that’s not a plot hole either. It’s a plot convenience. Plus, we’ve been kind of conditioned to overlook stuff like that in Star Wars.

I went back and reread the definitions you provided and that is EXACTLY how I would describe both those scenes. Both critical to the story and in both places it jerks me out of the movie, disrupts the flow of the story, and both are logical inconsistent. That makes them plot holes. And by those definitions, my personal perspective is inherent to whether I consider it a plot hole or not. Your opinion as to whether it is a plot hole or not is irrelevant to whether or not it fits the definition in my viewing experience. It matters to you and your viewing experience, but not mine.

And I am amazed at how so many people around here insist that I agree with them. Sorry, but my opinion is not subject to discussion, nor is anyone elses. Our tastes differ and that should be fine. My opinion that TFA has worse story problems than the PT is based on my preferences, cinematic tastes, and study of the craft of writing as well as my experience with previous Abrams endeavors. You have different tastes and experiences and different opinions. Fine by me. I’m not trying to convince anyone, just trying to defend my opinion.